"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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Why this site is so Important! PS - I just got released from a police cell

Thunderchild

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Hi Guys,
No doubt the title of this post will give you some idea of why Im writing this but in a nutshell, the tips and principles of this site are PRICELES or golden. Follow them and you cannot go wrong. the main thing is to STICK TO THEM. No exceptions! No softness! No deviting from the path!

Heres my story, and you'll see why!

Around two years ago, I stat dating a girl whom we'll know from this point as Leah! Things are good at first, BACK WHEN I WAS FOLLOWING THE SYSTEM. She followed me, she f****d on demand, she was the giver, i was the one being chased! Life was good!

Around two months in, AFC here decided to spill his guts that he loves her, tells her she means more to him than anything and basically hands his ass to her on a plate! I became soft and over time needy. Giving gifts, sending her flowers when she did something wrong, apologising for anything, being submissive and generally becoming a soft lump of castrated lard. My balls, her handbag, you get the idea.

Now two years later, she has kicked me out, I am stuck with two beautiful but none the less absent children, and she decided today that she would get me arrested for asault and criminal damage which I never comitted. On top of all that Im heavily in debt and skint!

Fortunately as I didnt comitt the above ofences an because there was no evidence I have been released and am back at my dear old moma's house!

So take this as a lesson guys;

NO softness, NO exceptions, NO lovy-dovey bulls*** and for goodness sake no flowers of any kind.

Theres the lesson!

I am the example!

LISTEN an Learn. The system is only perfect if you stick to it!
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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oneboy21

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sorry for ya buddy
you learned it hard way, why did you forgot this forum for those two years?
 

Thunderchild

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She wouldnt let me use internet, including consficating/smashing numerous smartphones. Again my fault
 

DrPhysique

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What... the ****...

You going to court? Also, by 2 absent children, you mean you have 2 kids with you right now?
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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The_Crack

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Gray The Prince said:
Just checked post history.

Strong troll is strong. I remember when trolling actually meant something.
how is this a troll? He isn't intuiting a new belief onto us or expressing some new idea or whatever.
He's just saying whats happened to him and his experience.
is it trolling to say believe in the DJ bible? lol okay
 

gaspipe

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The same shyt happened to my brother so there is validity to it.
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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floydb25

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I don't like this lesson you gave. You didn't "divert" from the path - you went way off in the opposite direction. You were putting on an act in the beginning - then revealed your true colors after a short while. What did you expect?

What you did isn't wrong - you just did it all too soon. It doesn't matter WHEN you come on too strong - its still not going to work. You can't act as a challenge, gain her interest, then pull a 180. You have to give more and more as time goes on. Not throw it all out there at once. Not in the beginning, not after a couple months, not ever. You can't go against what attracted them to you in the first place.

When you say no softness, no flowers, etc - you're talking extremes. These things aren't bad - in moderation. You don't have to do them all the time... Once in a while is ok.

Your mindset is wrong. It's the age-old nice guy vs jerk dilemma. Neither extreme works. Becoming a jerk because being the nice guy didn't work is nonsense. Find a healthy balance instead.
 

PrettyBoyAJ

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These things actually do happen, instead of calling every poster a troll why don't you guys disect the truth from the post. These things can happen and the message of the post is real.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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