Why the World Doesn't Need Superman

[ObieJuan]

We should all work on ourselves and our dreams, but that is not mutually exclusive with trying to get results with women.

I'd say the aforementioned is more complimentary then mutually exclusive, you're right By doing what makes us truly happy we add character and charm as additional weapons in our arsenal

"Game" is something you learn along the way when dealing with women. Sosuave and ASF will give a lot of tips but in the end it's your style the girls will dig...Club scenes are all about being direct, having fun and throwing your sexuality out there by playing the direct approach. It's either they like you and want to sleep with you or they don't- not much middle ground there if you're looking for a lay, IMO.

Sorry if I'm straying a bit- I think your analogy of relating seduction to superman is a different and interesting way to think about the subject. Rock on.

 

[Jon55]

bla bla bla.

you sound like a brainwashed cult member. until you leave the board for more than six months, then come back with a bunch of lay reports i won't believe any of this 'reawakening' shyt.

you're no pook, buddy.

Wow I know we're all entitled our opinions, but some of the attacks against Vypros here are funny. I don't think he ever said he was a Pook, just saying that's how he got inspiration. And field reports? You gotta be kidding me.

Vypros, it is good to see someone else around here who "gets it". There are still many bitter, angry, miserable men on this site who do not. It is amusing the amount criticism you receive when you merely offering your perspective on how your thinking has changed. Sadly this site has turned into a barrel of crabs since I first joined and doesn't seem to be getting any better. Judging by your replies you let go of the negative feelings and have no need to justify yourself.

It isn't about getting women, it's about being happy in life and accomplishing your dreams- success with women will follow once you are on your way to acheiving what you want in life. It's easier to become the prize then to pretend and convince yourself you're the prize.

Exactly how I felt.

 

[The Juan and only]

"Game" is something you learn along the way when dealing with women. Sosuave and ASF will give a lot of tips but in the end it's your style the girls will dig...Club scenes are all about being direct, having fun and throwing your sexuality out there by playing the direct approach. It's either they like you and want to sleep with you or they don't- not much middle ground there if you're looking for a lay, IMO.

I hear you but you're not hearing me. There are several very logical steps you can take to improve your chances in a club. fact. Hypothetical: Mr supergeek goes into a club wearing a cardigan and glasses thicker than sh1t. he is himself and makes no effort to change for anybody, he talks about computers, he comes onto women all while laughing through his nose. That guy aint getting nowhere.

That guy will NEVER be successful with women unless he takes some advice and changes who he is/what he does in a club.

Stop this pop psychology. Sure you have to be natural, but becoming your best self often involves taking in advice and learning practical skills, not just sitting back in some zen-like state and expecting results.

I want to know one thing, where the fvck are all the people who actually go to clubs on this board. Oh "you don't need game, go beyond that". Look I'm agreeing that you need to be natural, but you also need to add to your personality and expand your skillset in life. Make that a part of who you are, rather than treating it as worthless info you think you don't need.

 

[CrunchyNut]

I disagree Vypros.

Im not going to attack you. However, you have mistaken a DJ for a PUA. A DJ is somebody who attempts to improve their lives. Picking up women for a DJ is a side issue. It generally happens to come as a result of personal improvement, but it is not the DJ's end goal. The end goal of the DJ is to be the best person he can. For himself.

This means hitting the gym-it makes you healthier. Looking better is a side issue. It means working hard, going to the library and learning-it aids you mentally. You become educated and knowledgeable, and are able to have more diverse and understanding views on the world. If everybody in the world was educated and understanding, then conflict would more or less be wiped out. Again, being educated and interesting helps picking up chicks, but once more this is a side issue. Learning to cook well means that you eat better. It sounds good to chicks, but this is a side issue.

Do you see where I am going with this? Being a DJ is NOT about picking up chicks. That is being a PUA. Being a DJ is NOT about acting ****y and funny. It is about gaining the self confidence by being the best you that you can possibly be, and as a result being able to be ****y and funny.

Yes, Clarke Kent disguised himself so he wouldnt have to help people. But part of being the best possible you is being modest about it. It is about having quiet self confidence rather than being a jerk and shouting out to the world that you are confident and strong. This is our disguise. It enables us to be ourselves, to be the best version of ourselves. Yet people will respect us, and our close friends will ask for us when they are down. That comes with being the best. We should not shirk that responsibility.

The world does need a Don Juan. If we were all Don Juans, people would be educated. There would be less war, and less famine. People would be fitter, so much less money would go into health services, meaning that more could be spent on improving the community. Above all, people would be HAPPIER.

You have got it partly right. You said dont put on and take off our DJ persona. This is correct. DJness is inside us. It is the best us, our happiest, most confident, most able, healthiest us. It is the extent of our potential. We do not put on or take this off. We strive for it. We must strive for it, for if we do not then we become worthless people living worthless lives.

That is what being a DJ is about. It is nothing to do with putting on personas to attract women.

Blimey, that was long! Sorry

 

[DarthJuan]

I agree with both camps.
When you first find this site, the Pook-style posts are inspirational.
But after a while, you get over the metaphysical and pop-psychology stuff. The posts that compare the game to The Matrix, Superman, or some other movie or book about some super heroic, masculine, male archetype.

I think you get to a point where you ditch the AFC train of thought that the game is some great cosmic drama...and becoming a DJ is some rite of passage for a select few, elite men.

I find the simple honesty of a field report more useful now.
It's usually just something simple like make her smile or giggle and you'll usually do just fine.

No need to be deluded, thinking of ourselves as some heroic spartans facing insurmountable odds, or self-destructive rebels without clues like Tyler Durdan or international British spies and super heroes.

We shouldn't have to pump our mental state up that much with fictional high drama just to flirt with the cashier at Target
But it is sometimes fun to correlate it to that stuff.
Kind of like embelished fishing stories.

 

[ObieJuan]

I hear you but you're not hearing me. There are several very logical steps you can take to improve your chances in a club. fact. Hypothetical: Mr supergeek goes into a club wearing a cardigan and glasses thicker than sh1t.

Tip 1: Dress well, get some help if need be.

he is himself and makes no effort to change for anybody, he talks about computers, he comes onto women all while laughing through his nose. That guy aint getting nowhere.

Tip 2: Keep your focus on the girl, get her to talk about herself.
Tip 3: Being yourself means don't behave unnaturally just for the sake of picking up women. Present your true personality in a way that is fun, offbeat and interesting to the other person.

See how easy that is! That is all it takes, really. Still, if this guy is talking to girls then he's jumped over the invisible hurdle that most of the guys on this site have a problem facing.

That guy will NEVER be successful with women unless he takes some advice and changes who he is/what he does in a club.

Exactly! Tips are all he needs...if said dork is already approaching he will probably figure some things out on his own through trial and error- which is the correct way to learn your "Game" and develop a style by figuring which ways to present yourself effectively so that women respond well to you.

Stop this pop psychology. Sure you have to be natural, but becoming your best self often involves taking in advice and learning practical skills, not just sitting back in some zen-like state and expecting results.

Neither of those ways will get you anywhere if you don't get out and experiment a little. Maybe you are right that it is pop psychology but that doesn't mean someone out there doesn't understand what Vypros is getting at and try approach with his way of thinking. Sometimes the best way to get past your fears is to somehow be tricking your subconscious to face those fears. I acted like an arrogant jerk because I felt at the time that being better than women gives me no reason not to talk to them since they were below me. I don't really believe that anymore but did at that phase in my life.

I want to know one thing, where the fvck are all the people who actually go to clubs on this board. Oh "you don't need game, go beyond that".

I'm going to Tiki Bob's (a fun club here in MI) next Friday, it's a planned thing I get invited to every now and then because this girl I know wants to get this cash prize for having the largest party of people- it's like a contest. Anyway, I'll go like usual, have a few "dollar" drinks, grind on a few chicks and maybe get a couple of numbers if I can find any mutual interest...look, either the girl likes your style and will sleep with you or she won't and nothing you say or do will make much difference. Develop your game through experience, learn from mistakes and improve your chances.

Look I'm agreeing that you need to be natural, but you also need to add to your personality and expand your skillset in life. Make that a part of who you are, rather than treating it as worthless info you think you don't need.

What's the problem then? Are you happy in life right now, do you really care if you get women or not?

 

[Vypros]

I disagree Vypros.

Im not going to attack you. However, you have mistaken a DJ for a PUA. A DJ is somebody who attempts to improve their lives. Picking up women for a DJ is a side issue. It generally happens to come as a result of personal improvement, but it is not the DJ's end goal. The end goal of the DJ is to be the best person he can. For himself.

This means hitting the gym-it makes you healthier. Looking better is a side issue. It means working hard, going to the library and learning-it aids you mentally. You become educated and knowledgeable, and are able to have more diverse and understanding views on the world. If everybody in the world was educated and understanding, then conflict would more or less be wiped out. Again, being educated and interesting helps picking up chicks, but once more this is a side issue. Learning to cook well means that you eat better. It sounds good to chicks, but this is a side issue.

Do you see where I am going with this? Being a DJ is NOT about picking up chicks. That is being a PUA. Being a DJ is NOT about acting ****y and funny. It is about gaining the self confidence by being the best you that you can possibly be, and as a result being able to be ****y and funny.

Yes, Clarke Kent disguised himself so he wouldnt have to help people. But part of being the best possible you is being modest about it. It is about having quiet self confidence rather than being a jerk and shouting out to the world that you are confident and strong. This is our disguise. It enables us to be ourselves, to be the best version of ourselves. Yet people will respect us, and our close friends will ask for us when they are down. That comes with being the best. We should not shirk that responsibility.

The world does need a Don Juan. If we were all Don Juans, people would be educated. There would be less war, and less famine. People would be fitter, so much less money would go into health services, meaning that more could be spent on improving the community. Above all, people would be HAPPIER.

You have got it partly right. You said dont put on and take off our DJ persona. This is correct. DJness is inside us. It is the best us, our happiest, most confident, most able, healthiest us. It is the extent of our potential. We do not put on or take this off. We strive for it. We must strive for it, for if we do not then we become worthless people living worthless lives.

That is what being a DJ is about. It is nothing to do with putting on personas to attract women.

Blimey, that was long! Sorry

You know what's funny? You're actually AGREEING with my article.

I hear you but you're not hearing me. There are several very logical steps you can take to improve your chances in a club. fact. Hypothetical: Mr supergeek goes into a club wearing a cardigan and glasses thicker than sh1t. he is himself and makes no effort to change for anybody, he talks about computers, he comes onto women all while laughing through his nose. That guy aint getting nowhere.

That guy will NEVER be successful with women unless he takes some advice and changes who he is/what he does in a club.

Stop this pop psychology. Sure you have to be natural, but becoming your best self often involves taking in advice and learning practical skills, not just sitting back in some zen-like state and expecting results.

I want to know one thing, where the fvck are all the people who actually go to clubs on this board. Oh "you don't need game, go beyond that". Look I'm agreeing that you need to be natural, but you also need to add to your personality and expand your skillset in life. Make that a part of who you are, rather than treating it as worthless info you think you don't need.

I don't go to clubs. I've found that the girls there are not the types of girls I want in my life. Most are drama *****s, immature, and just annoying. Even for a one night stand, the drama they carry with them just isn't worth it. Same with bars. I have a bit higher standard than that and as a result I attract mostly more quality women.

As for the geek...well, you're not realizing that the geek is a geek because he lacks social skills! If the geek were to pick up those social skills, he could pick up women, EVEN WITH THE HORNRIMMED GLASSES AND GEEKY HAIRCUT. The right attitude and personality will get you girls, even if you look like a freak.