"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Why the hell is this girl texting me

Forty0ztoFreedom

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Ok, long story short, was a bit of an AFC to this girl and I started sensing disinterest. Asked her out for a 2nd date, she said she'd have to think if the day was ok and she'd call be back. Didn't call back. I didn't really care too much either because I planned to cut contact. I did. Deleted her number, moved on, etc.

I was expecting her to get in touch, out of curiosity alone. She did. She's initiated convo three times now. I just play it cool and act like I have to go usually.

But this last time I figure fvck it, and I talk a little bit. Ask her what she did this weekend. She mentions a bunch of boring crap and a picnic with her "crush." WTF?? I called it "very Seventeen Magazine" and said I hoped she at least got some. Subtely ended convo shortly after.

So what the hell is her deal? Should I keep pursuing this?

Ha, side-note: she responded to my "hope you got some with this 'crush'" with "Well I don't want some, at least not of that." WTF does that mean?
 

“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

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Forty0ztoFreedom said:
But this last time I figure fvck it, and I talk a little bit. Ask her what she did this weekend. She mentions a bunch of boring crap and a picnic with her "crush." WTF?? I called it "very Seventeen Magazine" and said I hoped she at least got some. Subtely ended convo shortly after.

Not good. She is telling you she something about herself and you're making fun of it. Won't turn her on. Your best bet would have been to do what you initially did, keep the conversations short and keep yourself at a distance.

Her: "I had a picnic with my crush"
You: "I hope you enjoyed yourself. Well, I have to dash off now. Don't forget to keep in touch."
Now, if she mentions she's single, then you can go hard. But if she's into some 6'1 guy, stay back, keep conversations short, and be friendly.
 

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DonJuan11 said:
Now, if she mentions she's single, then you can go hard. But if she's into some 6'1 guy, stay back, keep conversations short, and be friendly.
What does a guy being 6'1 have to do with anything?
 

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he meant that if she has a swolled out tall boyfriend stay clear
 

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I still don't get it.

I'm 6'3 and very proportional (I don't look skinny, I'm built) and i was just wondering if this would in any way benefit me, being tall... :D
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Now, if she mentions she's single, then you can go hard. But if she's into some 6'1 guy, stay back, keep conversations short, and be friendly.
Well, I'm 6'3 and I'm not threatened by whoever this is. But that's interesting that you say I shouldn't have poked fun . . Did I go too far? So when is it good to poke fun?

I was thinking I should have said "I don't remember having a picnic with you." But oh well. I'm just trying to feel all this stuff out at this point. Pretty safe bet that nothing is happening here but may as well try out some stuff.
 

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I sense a LJBF pending. That or she's being very subtle at making you jealous.
 

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I have found something strange recently and I cant really figure it out. I have been texting 2 girls who I am quite sure like me, but then they both start talking about other guys they like to me and dont worry I'm not in the friend category.. A week or so after I was out and saw one of them on a date with this guy, so I just said hi.. then later on I saw her on her own and her date had gone home, well she was all over me.. So why was she talking about some other guy??? The other girl who was talking about another guy came up to me last saturday night and bought me drinks all night and wanted to take me home with her..... I found it a little strange, this happens a lot, so maybe she wants to know what your reaction would be to her being with other guys, whenever they spoke about them to me I was very passive and "hope you kids have fun" n all... Hmm intesting little idiosynchraie these ladies play!!!
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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She's running game on you. She's try to build a stable of men she can call on whenever one messes up. Just play it cool and only be concerned about being the best you can be instead of worrying about the other men; that's if you want anything out of it. If not, just let her go.
 

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She's try to build a stable of men she can call on whenever one messes up.
That's actually what I first thought of when she started texting me. Her flavor-of-the-month started being AFC and she's calling in the backups. Wonder if I was ever reffered to as "her crush" to this other guy.

But in all honesty, I don't believe you have much chance: "crush" is the you've fvcked up key word, if it isn't aimed at you.
The "crush" keyword makes me think the same thing. Oh well, this girl could be all about me right now, or not at all. Either way I need to meet more girls. That's what I should focus on.

Heh, funny how when you write posts, thoughts just come out and you come to decisions through writing . . Writing can be powerful sh*t.
 
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