"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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why should not be overly nice

Lhemmix

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Recently I have broken up with my GF. Some serious problems like taking me for granted and other stuff.

The thing is ever since I broke up with her she is pleading me to get back to her.

She even does nice things which she rarely did before. She makes my homeworks and takes me to dinner.:rolleyes:

So would I get back with her?

The answer is no.
It feels like she is being nice to me in order to get something that she wants ( getting back with me ).
Its manipulative. Makes me feel obligated to her.

This is a reverse example.
So guys think of this next time when your trying to do something overly nice. It sends the wrong message that the girl is obliged to do something in return. It makes you look manipulative.
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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Drake22

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Whats wrong with manipulation? If somebody puts themself into a place to be manipulated, I don't really see whats wrong with taking the advantage. Do for yourself what you can, since others will not take pity on you unless they want something for themselves.

I say ride it out, let her buy you **** and make it look like there is hope for her. If it were the other way around what do you think she would do?
 

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There are two ways to go through life...

1) I do what others do to me and don't care if it's immoral... Vice

2) I stick to my honour and principles and strive to be a noble man... Virtue


Both work, but #1 makes sure that immoral behavior keeps going around the world, #2 puts a stop to it...

Choose for yourself which lady you will follow down the path. Just bare in mind that sorrow follows guilt and guilt comes from betraying your own values and one day it WILL catch up to you.
 

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Originally posted by Socialreject
There are two ways to go through life...

1) I do what others do to me and don't care if it's immoral... Vice

2) I stick to my honour and principles and strive to be a noble man... Virtue


Both work, but #1 makes sure that immoral behavior keeps going around the world, #2 puts a stop to it...

Choose for yourself which lady you will follow down the path. Just bare in mind that sorrow follows guilt and guilt comes from betraying your own values and one day it WILL catch up to you.
ahhh...very wise words :up: i have to agree with following your own principles even if it leads down a dark, lonely path.
 

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There's a difference between manipulating women and being a charming sexual person...its only a lonely path if you make it one.

Hamno

(who thinks this topic should have been titled 'Stand up for yourself!!!'
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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