"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Why PUA forums are essentially useless GLL Video

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And I don't think that PUA forums as entirely useless. There are say some older men who are knowledgeable enough to act as mentors to younger men. But you have to realize that men can also go their entire lives still not yet understanding the entire realm of social dynamics between men and women. You'll find that men who give advice about women and are knowledgeable about how to handle them may be correct when speaking of certain circumstances, but their knowledge is still incomplete. Very few men in this world seem to understand a well rounded view and that few that do oddly enough seem to have some involvement within magic circles and have occult knowledge. For example, Mystery of the mystery method is a trained show magician which certainly qualifies him to be among those ranks. Call me crazy for saying that. Yet show magic actually has something historically to do with the ancient art of warfare, so that probably explains a lot. It applies across the board.
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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muscleman said:
Chris - I watched you video and I agree with parts of it. Generally - and this is just as true for any guys you may coach using your 'formula' and seeing their pictures/style/etc, is this: The specifics of any interaction are too complex to draw a 100% accurate conclusion. As a result, the only conclusions you can draw are those immediately observable. In other words, even if you look good and dress sharp and still miss due to her lack of 'sexual availability', there's no guarantee you'll be able to find out exactly why. It could be something from her past. And this is where you can do 2 things:

1) Maximize your looks/presentation/'social freedom' (game), ignore the ones who flake on you, not even try to discover the reasons why, and keep playing the numbers game. And it'll work. For a while. But what's going to happen when you're 50 and you decide you still want to bang 100 'top shelf' girls/year? How will you pull it off? What are your compensatory traits? If you're doing this full time without getting your money right, for instance, how will you capitalize when you approach your SMV peak?

2) Work on the above, no doubt, but look for the other reasons of this lack of availability. You did exactly this at the end of your video - you mentioned a status discrepancy between you and the prince. And that's what will throw a monkey wrench into your entire operation. If you're famous, you don't HAVE to look great, you don't HAVE to dress sharp, and you really don't even need much 'social freedom'. More pvssy comes to YOU than you can handle. Can everyone achieve this? Of course not, but you can try to get as close as possible.

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You mention that 'PUA' forums are useless, but that's an incorrect term. Most forums aren't just PUA. Sure if you visit the high school sub-forum that's mainly it, but it's only a subset.

Although I agree with most points in your video, here are my 2 criticisms:

1) You have found a way that works for you based on certain fundamental principles. But it's just 1 solution among thousands. You have your own paradigms (just like I have mine and others have theirs). Does your way work? Sure (I am similar to you). Is it the only way? Absolutely not. It's probably not even the most efficient compared to the creme de la creme (the real social alphas of society) who roll through THOUSANDS of hot girls just by showing up.

2) The PUA subset (techniques, etc) are actually EXTREMELY useful for overcoming social anxiety and awkwardness. Yes a lot of it is silly. No it's not applicable in all situations. But it doesn't matter. If it works a few times, and is analyzed, the parts that work can now be integrated into future interactions, used and used again until it becomes internalized (confidence/tone of voice for example as you mentioned) and leads to a personality shift. It's not meant to be an endless tirade of if-then statements. You're supposed to learn and progress.

^ With regards to #2, I can say this from experience because that's how I changed. I learned from reading, and trying, and doing all of these stupid PUA techniques, how to cold approach, what line to use, when to ask for a number, and so on. Now I look back on it and thing wow I must have looked retarded. But you know what - it was necessary for me to unbrainwash and believe in myself. I don't use any lines anymore. If I do use a 'line', I don't realize it because it just comes out due to this 'social freedom' I developed.

PS. I'm in great shape, above average looking, and when I go out I dress decent - nothing top notch, but I have a few outfits. So I agree with a lot of what you're saying.
I don't disagree with what you said.

Our stuff (looks, style, social freedom, be AGGRESSIVE and touch women) is to GET LAID... its apples to orange with the "PUA" community. The PUA community is about "meeting women" "never get rejected!" "make them laugh" "learn to be a pickup artist" "impress women".. whereas our stuff is about fcking women... it's very very different.

But what's going to happen when you're 50 and you decide you still want to bang 100 'top shelf' girls/year? How will you pull it off?

Our stuff isn't for them. I don't care about those guys and they [in general] are targeting Hollywood ***** either or trying to fuk 100 girls... you know what I mean. Guys over 50 aren't banging top-shelf aspiring LA models/actresses on a regular basis, unless that have money and/or status. Guys over 50 aren't really banging average looking 18-25 year olds anyway. My stuff isn't for those guys, they aren't our target, I'd tell them to get on match.com or eharmony.com and avoid talking about their ex-wife.

in fact- my stuff isn't for out of shape people who aren't willing to get in shape... so I don't disagree agree with you.

every method "works"... simply because you are talking to girls and some of them are sexually available. Our is "the best" to GET LAID because it screens IN the DTF chicks and screens OUT ANYBODY ELSE in 20seconds if you are being aggressive with it... again, GET LAID, not "meet women" or "never get rejected!" or "make her like you" sh1t.

It's probably not even the most efficient compared to the creme de la creme (the real social alphas of society) who roll through THOUSANDS of hot girls just by showing up.

"real alphas"
who are you talking about... A-LIST celebrities? Lead Singers of Top .00000001% Bands?
No, I can't teach that. So yeah, my method is weak there. If you are 50+ or an A-List celebrity... GoodLookingLoser.com isn't for you :)

I think we agree on stuff... I'm not trying to be smug. Sorry if it comes off that way. your two criticisms use a 1% age-group of single 50 years old that want to fck Hot ***** and/or 100 girls and a 0000001% group of "REAL ALPHAS?" A-List celebrities. for criticisms... if i am understanding this correctly.

we are disagreeing on less than 1% of stuff so this debate is obviously silly.
looks

style
social freedom
talk to girls

is the the reason that any method "works," the PUA community pushes "what you say" which boils down to maybe 7-10% of the 'social freedom' category
 

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I cant believe how many people here are still stressing and harping on looks. That may be 10-15% of the equation, the rest is whats going on in your head, and the ability to take massive action (approach girls).
 

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Chris,

Your stuff may be more relevent to 50+ guys than you think. Case in point, for years here on SS I've been making speeches about the need to be fit, convey a sense of style, and developing confidence, which I have redefined as "social ease".

For those reasons your material does resonate with me, and I'm 55. It is true that I'm a very young 55, in fact if you met me you would guess me to be mid to late thirties, so perhaps that has something to do with it.

At any rate, your ideas may be more universal in scope than you think.

You are right on the money in any age group... Fitness, style, and social freedom are all a man needs to succeed. I haven't paid that much attention to touching, because I already do well, but I'm going to be experimenting with that more as I think you're on to something there.
 

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st_99 said:
I cant believe how many people here are still stressing and harping on looks. That may be 10-15% of the equation, the rest is whats going on in your head.
I think it used to be that way, but no more.

Women will shut you out instantly and irrevocably based on looks in this day and age. But "looks", according to my definition, is not genetic perfection. Rather it is conveying an awareness of style and doing the best you can with what God gave you. When most women see that a man displays a sense of style, the looks hurdle is passed and game comes into play.

Women have been conditioned through the media to abandon seeking a decent guy, and to gravitate toward Hollywood looks and social artifice. Her minimal requirement is going to be a man who at least tries to look nice.

When I run around in ordinary jeans and t-shirt, I'm the invisible man. When I throw on a decent pair of pants and nice shirt, along with nice shoes, the heads turn and there are smiles galore.

All they are looking for is a modicum of style. If it isn't there, for most women it's an "I'll pass, thank you".
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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Atom Smasher said:
Chris,

Your stuff may be more relevent to 50+ guys than you think. Case in point, for years here on SS I've been making speeches about the need to be fit, convey a sense of style, and developing confidence, which I have redefined as "social ease".

For those reasons your material does resonate with me, and I'm 55. It is true that I'm a very young 55, in fact if you met me you would guess me to be mid to late thirties, so perhaps that has something to do with it.

At any rate, your ideas may be more universal in scope than you think.

You are right on the money in any age group... Fitness, style, and social freedom are all a man needs to succeed. I haven't paid that much attention to touching, because I already do well, but I'm going to be experimenting with that more as I think you're on to something there.
well thank you, just by your response I can tell that you are quite different than the majority of guys that are 55+. As am I, different from guys my age. I appreciate that.
 
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st_99 said:
I cant believe how many people here are still stressing and harping on looks. That may be 10-15% of the equation, the rest is whats going on in your head, and the ability to take massive action (approach girls).
way more than 10-15% when we are talking top-shelf girls (ages 18-24). less hot girls, sure. older girls, sure.
social freedom is the majority, containing the criteria that you said to approach and play the #s game (i dont disagree whatsoever)

looks are VERY important to GET LAID SAME DAY/NIGHT with a hot chick. you are the sexy stranger that fcks her, or shes drunk enough to think so :)

again, Hot Girl
again, Same night

in Hollywood I never see overweight guys snatching hot chicks from the clubs, never. I can't remember the last time I saw a fat guy making out with a super hot chick, the most I see is an overweight mid-level club promoter taking pictures with girls. (not that you are talking about 'fat' guys)

I will say that my view of the universe is a bit distorted. but by and large, girls want to want fukd by sexy players but will settle for safer average-looking guys with financial stability for long term relationships.

girls priorities do change though, from the attractive chicks I grew up with, I wrote about it here-
"Hot Chicks Only Want to Fuk The Hottest Guys?"
http://www.goodlookingloser.com/2012/08/29/hot-women-only-want-to-****-the-hottest-guys/

i mean- GOOD LOOKING LOSER... i was the good looking kid that didnt fuk many girls when I was in my early20s.. i def know

here's my take, via experience
The hottest 18-20 year old girls generally just want to **** the hottest, sexiest guys. (looks, status)

The hottest 20-24 years old girls generally just want to the **** coolest guys. (status, looks)

The hottest 25+ year old girls generally are looking to lock down a cool, decent-looking, financial secure, safe boyfriend.

These general statements will vary, obviously

the different age group will literally tell me different things. 19yr old will call me 'hot'. 24yr old will call me 'cool'.
i wouldnt make that much of it but i hear it all the time
 
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