You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.
She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.
Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.
Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.
Attraction runs on a clock.
She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.
The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."
One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.
Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.
http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=130853&highlight=vh1+kosmoFrancisco d'Anconia said:You know what? I tried that and nothing came up!![]()
You can tell his act is a fake. it comes off as staged, his replys are too quick and come off like he's said it a million times. It's over the top C/F, doing this doesn't look natural.AFC Savior said:too bad you guys still dont understand that Mystery acting the way he did IS HIS OWN NATURAL GAME
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.
That's all the old stuff that was going around during the time that the show was being aired. I'm looking for what he's been doing in "the society" since winning the title of "Pick UP Artist." Wasn't he supposed to tour with Mystery and help teach seminars? Where's the information about him doing anything like that? Hell, was he even able to keep all the pendants he won during the show?SAKongen said:
My sentiment exactly. A lot of how you go about it, depends on where you are. The ultimate DJ could adapt himself to the section of the world he's in. Now That's knowledge of human psychology. Some places would get you killed like over in Arab countries. Where You Are can make a Big difference to how you are received by the girls. I tend to thrive in the celebrity look-out places of the US too, because I look of royal ilk, hot as fvck. Where I was born and raised, women don't even notice me as much. There are more lesbians and gays where I'm from and musicians, minorities, it seems more people where I'm from originally are all about hearing and would prefer a musician or dirty filthy pua.Sandow said:You can tell his act is a fake. it comes off as staged, his replys are too quick and come off like he's said it a million times. It's over the top C/F, doing this doesn't look natural.
in my opinion, he seems very persisitent, but it seems needy. Also notice how she's qualifying Mystery and Mystery is trying to qualify himself by coming off C/F. In my opinion, she controlled the conversation and made Mystery look vulnerable. And mystery's defense to this was to act even more ****y and throw out more negs.
I don't think she bought it, yea she liked the fact he was a magician. Mind you they are in Hollywood. Everyone's on the look for celebritys. His routine wouldn't stand a chance in most other cities.
And how does that affect you? Let Mystery go after whatever girls he wants to. The Keyboard Jockeys on this site never cease to amaze me. Some 18 year old punk hating on Mystery! Is this for real? Kid, stick to masturbating and leave the pu$$y for the guys that have the balls to get out there and make approached instead of sitting behind their keyboards critiquing others.ChrizZ said:I highly doubt Mystery pulls a lot of smoking hot women. He pulls the cute and average chicks. Don't believe the hype.
Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.
Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers. Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.
I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.
Yeah it did seem fake and staged. Or at least it didn't really look like a PU to me. They're standing around on some Street in LA and it just looked like some stand up act really. Some of his lines wouldn't work in places like the Midwest. At one point Mystery says "you're such an a.sshole." 9/10 if you say that to a girl around here no matter how you say it, they go apesh!t, and cap'n savahos and bouncers might even get involved.. People in the southwest tend to be more ****y and out with stuff. MM stuff is basically useless in a place like where I live, loud clubs full of 21 year old ADD girls.Sandow said:You can tell his act is a fake. it comes off as staged, his replys are too quick and come off like he's said it a million times. It's over the top C/F, doing this doesn't look natural.
in my opinion, he seems very persisitent, but it seems needy. Also notice how she's qualifying Mystery and Mystery is trying to qualify himself by coming off C/F. In my opinion, she controlled the conversation and made Mystery look vulnerable. And mystery's defense to this was to act even more ****y and throw out more negs.
I don't think she bought it, yea she liked the fact he was a magician. Mind you they are in Hollywood. Everyone's on the look for celebritys. His routine wouldn't stand a chance in most other cities.
that's BS. if you can't get away with saying something like that and the bouncers come over, your calibration is way off as is your sense of relative valueketostix said:At one point Mystery says "you're such an a.sshole." 9/10 if you say that to a girl around here no matter how you say it, they go apesh!t, and cap'n savahos and bouncers might even get involved.. People in the southwest tend to be more ****y and out with stuff. MM stuff is basically useless in a place like where I live, loud clubs full of 21 year old ADD girls.
This site is loaded with "routines" and thousands of peeps copy (including the people who complain about "routines) them word for word, every day, yet nobody gets hated on because of it.DonJoseCantosie said:If this were true, than why does he teach "routines" if u could use ur own personality and that going up to her with ur true intention in my mind(that u like her) is a bad idea?
Attraction runs on a clock.
She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.
The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."
One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.
Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.
Of all these videos of Mystery doing pick ups he never seems to really get the girl. Most of it just shows him going up to a girl and talking to her. That is not a difficult feat. I can walk up to almost any woman and get her to talk with me - it’s no big deal. Also, in this particular video at one point he is on the verge of losing his patience with her. If he was all he is claimed to be there would be no need for that little confrontation. He obviously doesn’t have the charm to disarm the woman.krazyboy99 said:You guys putting down mystery are fvcking retarded. How many of you would've been able to plow through all that sh1t she was giving her? I'm willing to bet none of you would've gotten through that. The man developed all of his own sh1t and it works for him. he's doing great.
Like I said earlier, you can tell that the film has a bunch of edits. I'd be curious to know the length of time that it took. It would show just how persistent the guy can be.DjDan said:My question is how many movies did Mystery have to shoot until he got one girl that responded positively?
But that is exactly what makes so many men so successful with women. You call it not getting the hint, I call it not giving up at the first sign of resistance. So many women put up a front and if you just recognize that it is token and plow through it you will have more success.DjDan said:To me it seemed like he's the type of creepy nerdy guy that just DOESN'T GET THE HINT.
Women hate those idiots.
This is true, I did notice thatFrancisco d'Anconia said:Like I said earlier, you can tell that the film has a bunch of edits. I'd be curious to know the length of time that it took. It would show just how persistent the guy can be.
Honestly that set was solid, while the whole "Best PUA" BS is dumb to me as there are many different styles, and people all with different identities it would be dumb to really say one person is better than the rest. In my mind there are AFCs, decent guys, and guys who are GOOD. In this case Mystery is GOOD. (I'm basing this off his archives and how innovative his stuff were)potato said:Reading Snow Plowman’s analysis and listening to the YouTube video analyses and considering that Mystery is considered the best PUA does little more than confirm my opinion that PUAs and the game they play is lame. Regardless of what you guys say, Mystery was never really in charge of the conversation and the girl never showed that much interest. Even after the kiss at the end she didn’t look at all like she was falling for him.
Me and you have very similar way of approaching except I also know outer game for logistics purposes. Really its all just different styles. Calibration is something that needs to be balanced because majority of the time it's not needed. I guy who is uncalibrated will do mistake such as when a chick is saying "No" he'd automatically give up not realizing she just isn't ready yet just keep on moving the interaction forward.potato said:By comparison here is how I approach women.
I am a very happy person. I’ve long known that wherever I go that people are drawn to me because of it. Typically when I first meet a woman there is a great deal of eye contact. This eye contact is not just looking at each other but communicating at a basic animalistic level which generates quite a bit of emotional energy between us that tends to build. Once we begin to speak it is already on.
I think many people think of me as being quiet and shy yet when I connect with someone I am never at a loss for words. Whereas Mystery is constantly thinking in terms of what he is saying and how it is getting him closer to his goal, I just say whatever; just enjoy the moment regardless of the outcome. I don’t have any stock stories and I never try to calibrate with or counteract what the woman is saying or in anyway try to lead the conversation. I have no plan or method I just start talking. It’s an adventure into the unknown.
All girls give sh!t tests you just aren't aware of it, if a chick isn't attracted to a guy she won't bother giving him any sh!t tests.potato said:I don’t think that a woman has ever given me a sh!t test. If it would have been me there rather than Mystery she wouldn’t have been giving me crap over the way I was dressed. More likely she would have been looking at me, smiling, quite possibly doing that squirm thing some women do. She would reach up and touch my hair or my arm or shoulder saying something like “nice hair” or “nice arms” or some comment on how my smile makes her feel.
Trust me from the looks of it, that set was solid. You can't really notice it unless you can actually see whats going on. It's like hearing japanese but not knowing a word of japanese so you can't really understand.potato said:So, I’m not at all impressed by Mystery’s performance. From my perspective he put a lot of effort into getting a girl who will most likely flake on him. I’ll take my charm over Mystery’s method any day.
Even though he's richer than you, known as a better seducer than you, and gets more and better looking women that you?potato said:Of all these videos of Mystery doing pick ups he never seems to really get the girl. Most of it just shows him going up to a girl and talking to her. That is not a difficult feat. I can walk up to almost any woman and get her to talk with me - it’s no big deal. Also, in this particular video at one point he is on the verge of losing his patience with her. If he was all he is claimed to be there would be no need for that little confrontation. He obviously doesn’t have the charm to disarm the woman.
Reading Snow Plowman’s analysis and listening to the YouTube video analyses and considering that Mystery is considered the best PUA does little more than confirm my opinion that PUAs and the game they play is lame. Regardless of what you guys say, Mystery was never really in charge of the conversation and the girl never showed that much interest. Even after the kiss at the end she didn’t look at all like she was falling for him.
By comparison here is how I approach women.
I am a very happy person. I’ve long known that wherever I go that people are drawn to me because of it. Typically when I first meet a woman there is a great deal of eye contact. This eye contact is not just looking at each other but communicating at a basic animalistic level which generates quite a bit of emotional energy between us that tends to build. Once we begin to speak it is already on.
I think many people think of me as being quiet and shy yet when I connect with someone I am never at a loss for words. Whereas Mystery is constantly thinking in terms of what he is saying and how it is getting him closer to his goal, I just say whatever; just enjoy the moment regardless of the outcome. I don’t have any stock stories and I never try to calibrate with or counteract what the woman is saying or in anyway try to lead the conversation. I have no plan or method I just start talking. It’s an adventure into the unknown.
I don’t think that a woman has ever given me a sh!t test. If it would have been me there rather than Mystery she wouldn’t have been giving me crap over the way I was dressed. More likely she would have been looking at me, smiling, quite possibly doing that squirm thing some women do. She would reach up and touch my hair or my arm or shoulder saying something like “nice hair” or “nice arms” or some comment on how my smile makes her feel.
When her friend came over I would have said nothing special, just look in her eyes and she would understand what was going on.
And of course I never used the foul language that Mystery used. My wholesomeness draws them in just as much as my happiness.
So, I’m not at all impressed by Mystery’s performance. From my perspective he put a lot of effort into getting a girl who will most likely flake on him. I’ll take my charm over Mystery’s method any day.
Forget the cash, the cars, and the chiseled jawlines. Female desire operates on a completely different frequency. Primal. Subconscious. Triggers that bypass her logic and hit her on a gut level. Most guys are totally blind to them.
I know because I was one of them. The overthinking. The paralysis. The silent drive home kicking yourself for freezing up. Watching average guys walk away with the girl while you stood there stuck in your own head.
Then I decoded the psychology behind what actually makes women tick. 22 hard rules. Subtle behavioral shifts that rewired my entire reality. The anxiety evaporated. Women started leaning in. Investing. Chasing.