Why MSN or facebook or anything involving messaging is not good

[khash]

Hello,

I want to share with you an experience of mine which might encourage you guys to get out there in the field instead of sitting infront of comp chatting away with girls.

I used to chat with girls alot on msn and facebook in the early days of my progress before reaching the don juan status. I suggest that unless you had previosuly attracted the girl or are very intimate with her already, DONT chat with girls. even if you know them, but want to progress it further, chatting KILLS ur success rate for the reasons I list below. This comes from FIRST HAND experience and will relate to all my fellow ss.net boys out there.

1) WHen chatting, you are not physically present. your body language, which has been emphasized on this site massively, is simply not there. TEXT is there. how pathetic is that. we know that 90% of attraction comes from physical and body language and how you present your self. How do you expect to be successful chatting with them???

2) Girls simply dont get the intimidation and confidence that you would present them in person if you are chatting with them. for all they know, you can be the smoothest guy or the hottest guy, but all they see is line. they will be much less stimulated EMOTIONALLY and you wont make them FEEL anything----> USELESS.

3) Girls love to doubt things. when you are chattging with them and ask them out etc, they will have all the time in the world to bring in their LOGICAL brain, and analyze you in everyway they can. you DONT want their logical brain, its always negative. you want their EMOTION to be touched. it is turlly a waste of time.

4) They automatically presume that you are a chump. they will think you dont got the balls to ask them out or talk to them in person. they will laugh at you, and you massively increase THEIR self esteem. they think they ARE SO HOT AND THE SHYT that you dont have the balls and are afraid of her. this is END of attraction,that is when she knows she can run all over you and you are intimidated by her personality or beauty.

save the time, forget msn, get out there man. I cant emphasize this enough. I used to be a pyssie myself. Guys honestly, it is SOOO insignificant what one person thinks about you. you can say the most ridiculous sounding thing to a girl, and she could think you are the biggest loser EVER, but when that moment is gone, its simply GONE. she gets on with her life and YOU IMPROVED. THATS RIGHT, you just conquered your fear. If that same girl sees you chatting up with a bunch of HBs, EVERYTHING WILL REVERSE. she will think she did something stupid that you got turned off.

Get out there, throw pride away, be ****y and self respectful but realize that what people think is very insignificant if you act CONFIDENTLY and CONSISTANTLY. dont show weakness to people's criticism.

One of the most common human mistakes for misery and depression is simply conforming to people's criticism. You see, there is no right or wrong. No body is right or wrong. this world is simply a jungle and we are all bunch of creatures living in it who were created as a result of sexual reproduction. it is YOUR BELIEF that matters. other people could think you are doing the most wrong thing ever, but if YOU BELIEVE in your abilities so much and are CONFIDENT that you are doing the right thing and DONT GIVE A FLYING FvCk about other people's criticism, those same people will become your followers and respect you. The worst thing you can do is show sensetiveness to other people's suggestion regarding your behaviour. Once they see that, they will start DOMINATING you, and your value goes down to zero. This doesnt only apply to girls, but human beings, ANYONE. dont be fooled by " nice people" etc. thats all a load of crap. those same people who were nice will start dominating you if they get the opportunity upon you showing weakness and surrenderring to them.

so be strong, you are everybody's leader, you are the PRIZE who sets the standards and make sure you act consistantly around everybody.

it is true when they say the only person you have to respect in this world is yourself. others will follow. AND YES, life is a competition to be the criminal and not the victim. it is a quote i couldnt agree more.

DOMINATE OR BE DOMINATED, you decide.

ciao

 

[khash]

I am also tired of people not posting replies to the most important things. people post replies to the stupidest threads. it trully shows that this site is filled by 80% chumps and wannabes.

where are the real men at? holla if u hear me.

 

[El MonoLoco]

I feel ya

 

[Manonamission]

I agree with pretty much everything you put in your post.

You're right about chicks laughing at guys asking them out over the internet, I've heard that time and time again.

 

[Macgyver]

I am also tired of people not posting replies to the most important things. people post replies to the stupidest threads. it trully shows that this site is filled by 80% chumps and wannabes.

where are the real men at? holla if u hear me.

Dude, I learned that most people in this "discussion" forum are mostly idiots and will listen agreeably to idiots like shezz posting the latest techniques. I would go to mature men but then you're 18. It's good that you do realize that instant messaging/text messaging is a waste of time. Charm in person, just keep the emails/text whatever for things you cannot do in person.

 

[khash]

im 19 Mac, where does it say im 18? not that its a big difference lol. but physical age and mental age are two differnet things.

I agree, most people do not have the right mindset. It trully is a waste of time reading this forum and I am not gonna visit here often. you gotta gain real world knowledge, thats what its all about.

 

[poohead]

i'm abandoning online dating. it's too weighted in the female's favor, plus the women online are generally have a lot of baggage and AW tendencies. i'm just going to try to hit on as many attractive women as i encounter in real life now. å

 

[yrock181]

i also abandoned online dating like about a year ago because i realized that it was the easy way out. But in the beginning online dating did help me. i was a person who could barely get on aim because i had no confidence in myself. But then after i realized that the info on this site was real and that i was an afc that when i decided online dating wasn't for me. anyway Most girls online won't give you a chance unless you look like a star on your pictures. Most girls are also there for attention. If you notice most of their pictures are sexual pics so chumps could gass their heads up with compliments.

 

[So Many Ways]

Wow, you've realized all of that at age 19? You're way ahead of the game my man.

 

[daSoCalpimp]

I totally agree with your point, and everyones elses point here about attention *****s and such, and that chatting is bad for developed game.

But hasn't chatting allowed you to move from no game to "dj status" like you said.

If you are bad with women and get nervous or can't come up with quit witty convo skills in real life online chat is great. But once you start developing game and an ability to think on your feet you can progess to going out in the field with confidence.

In the beginning online chatting helped me out, but I never do it now, don't discredit these techniques for newbies, they can help them progress.

 

[khash]

I totally agree with you dasocalpimp. It does help you in the very beginning when you are nervous. but you should quickly abandon it when you see your self progressing. chatting does help for sure, but it just helps you in terms of coming to the right realizations and the right mindset to actually pursue girls. the help DOES not come in any way, shape or form with actual dating success with women.
Not from my experience to say the least.

 

[khash]

well than the dude who knows how to pull girls from net crazy needs to come here and put a post about how he does it. then I will believe you.
you are right about us learning from eachother. that is my goal. that is what gives us success. society tries to seperate us as much as possible so we are isolated and dont learn a thing. we are most successful when we cooperate and this concepts has held true for years. As far as the newbies go, they are welcome here, but i still believe that people do have some useless threads out there. we should try to stick to big things, not a buncha of small distracting things that do not even mean much.

 

[khash]

plus fuzz, you have to take into account our age difference. you are 25, i just turned 19. the women i deal with are 18, 19, 20. the ones u deal with are older i presume unless u one of those peeps who goes for the teenagers. that is highly unlikely since ur status is a master don juan and u have been on this website quite long. so ye older girls are MUCHHHH more receptive to online, because they are more mature, and they wanna meet the rich man of their dream etc. they have been through all the approaching and falling for the bad boy etc and are passed that stage of their life. eventhough they are still the same, they are a bit more receptive to online dating is what im saying. with 19 year olds man, u have more luck fvcking eva longoria than dating those chicks.

 

[WORKEROUTER]

Couldn't agree here more.

The ONLY way to really initiate a sexual and emotional response from a girl is by allowing her to FEEL your sexual and emotional presence.

That means to MEET HER IN PERSON.

AIM is for junior high students who want to flirt around. I know I did!

Since then though I haven't ever used it since.

 

[MagikDude]

I'm no pro or anything, but......

Online Chat can be a benifit for the early shy days, but it does lack a LOT Of IMPORTANT things, most especially EMOTION and BODY LANGUAGE. If I'm having an up day, I can tell, I get more female attention than usual. I've also noticed that older girls don't like on-line chat as much, and since I hold maturity in highest regard, it won't work for me as well. Besides, I'm sick of those chicks that say stuff like "how u doin?" or "KeWlIeZ" like it makes em' cooler to type all funky, it just makes it DAMN hard to read!

On-Line sites, which I've sampled a couple for short lengths of time, typically have 2 groups of women, really young (I'm talking 16-22 age group) on there, or 30+ who are feeling the heat of their biological clock and want a man NOW. Most that are between those two are usually either not that good looking, carrying baggage (and it often shows), or are there for attention (Attention *****s) and nothing more. I'm not making a blanket statement tho, just an observation from what I've seen.

The best way, just get out, live life, and make some friends, acquaintences, and it all just kinda falls into place from what I've seen. Why use a search button for em' when you know where they are. A lot of people who do the on-line thing don't have it all together, and a woman usually goes for a guy with his proverbial **** together. This can also be a tool to be used to your advantage

 

[Eccentric]

I agree. My sister has a MySpace account. It's not *****d out like the others, but she's involved with club promotions and keeps in touch with her friends in Miami. So she does have quite a bit of friends... Anyways, she let me read her emails from guys.

TRUELY PATHETIC. These guys make AFCs look like DJs. Words cant describe how corny half the **** is. They will do anything and everything for the slightest bit of attention. When I had MySpace I was in her 1 or 2 slot next to her best friend, and guys would send C&F emails (if youd call it that) asking who I was. She told them I was her brother, and these guys had the nerve to respond back all hostile like she was a liar.

She still has her account, but deleted tons of guys when I was there. She asks me if all guys are like this. I asked like what? She said if all guys need the internet to hit on women.

 

[JC9]

Why not use the internet to interact with women? It's a tool just like a club or bar is.

You're not going to f**k the girl in the bar but you might get a number, set-up a day 2, or isolate her to another venue.

Think of the internet as the same thing, you simply use it to garner initial interest then setup a meet and proceed as you would with a girl you got a number from after a 5 min convo at a bar.

Now, is it better for your skills than the bar? I'd say no. But your not always at the bar. Tossing a quick email while at work, or just before you go to sleep at the end of the day takes 0 effort and rewards you with a day2, so to speak, after a few exchanges.

I've f closed the past 3 girls I talked to online the first time I met them. It required maybe 3 emails and less than 10 min or IM or phone conversation to setup a date, and you then use your DJ skills in person to close.

Editted to add example:

I have my profile posted on a free dating site. A girl emailed me last thursday, I emailed her back friday while at work. She responded saturday, to which I sent my response sunday night.

Talked this morning off an on for 1hr via IM. Since im at work, the convo took longer than it should. It would have been maybe 15 minutes if I wasn't doing other things in between sending responses.

She is meeting me for drinks Wednesday night. Since it's an evening meet and for drinks, it shouldn't really be hard to have sex with her the same evening if I play the night correctly.

I've spent longer setting up the same thing at a bar or club, and that costs money for cover and drinks.

 

[khash]

Eccentric, you are absolutely right. It is pathetic how these guys are. they make everything bad for us and give 100 times mroe confidence to women.
do you guys know the reasons girls play so hard and they are so hard to get in north america is because all these fvcking chumps ruin it for us.

 

[Eccentric]

I realize MySpace is the newest fad that's taking the internet by storm. But there is also another fad, talking in person! Even David Spade had a MySpace skit on his show on Comedy Central. There's nothing wrong with the site, but it's bad when you start to subsitute online communication for the real thing.

I haven't seen a lot of EMO kids, like everyone claims. What I do see is Metrosexuals gone wild. Every guy has pictures of himself with his orange skin, blown out hair, and pictures of Italy, Jenna Jameson, Scarface, and some sparkling image of rims or weed. Way to stand out from the rest of the crowd.

The girls are the same. Half naked pictures, pages loaded with Gucci and Prada logos, those icon images with little quotes. It hit me a while back... Like "Ok, have fun decorating your page and sending out emails for friends; I'm going out in the real world now." Like David Spade said, it's the same as decorating your high school locker. Screw that. I'm going to be 23. I'm not in HS, nor do I want to be with anyone in HS.

If people seek attention this much from the opposite sex, just get a nice outfit and hit the town one night. Go out, have a blast, walk around with a swagger, whatever you have to do. At the end of the night, I guarentee you'll have more pride if you got 1 # from a total hottie who you had a connection with. Rather than choosing a girl who relplies to your comment/friend request spam.

 

[khash]

hahaha, thats hilarious. I have seen the pictures of the Italian/portugese flag and the ridiculous pics they put up. i cant help but burst out in laughter once in a while. in fact, i visit those sites JUST to get some comedy if I am bored. They are in a different world man, let them be.