Why Medicine is fvcked up

[Burroughs]

80,000 dollars to treat a scorpion sting!!

damn

http://news.yahoo.com/scorpion-sting-leaves-arizona-woman-huge-bill-225717487.html

there are less expensive options...In India cobra anti venom is 60 dollars a dose US$...they use it often and works quickly...of course a life threatening situation is the perfect time to gouge a patient.

middle man after middle man takes a cut until the 100dollars becomes 80,000

"Rare Disease Therapeutics sells the drug for $3,500 per dose to Accredo Health Care, a Memphis, Tenn.-based specialty pharmaceutical company that distributes the drugs to Arizona hospitals.

Several Arizona hospitals said they are charged about $3,780 per dose of Anascorp. Hospitals then add their own markup to cover extra costs such as patients who don't pay their full bills."

hospitals take that 4K (which is well above the 100dollar price) and charge 40K to the patient.....wow thats some serious extortion...in India the public is too poor for this..drugs are sold over the counter without a prescription including lipitor and steroids (all you weightlifters get to India)...this would give the lady the choice of the 4,000 dollar option instead of the hospital gouging her for 40,000K

But that's the policy. The f'cked up part is that the entire western medicine is geared towards treating symtoms and not healing the source.

yes that is very true

"ain't no money in the cure....money is in the comeback!!"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G7P4iFg048k

 

[taiyuu_otoko]

From the article:

Edmonds says an emergency room doctor told her about the Mexican anti-venom Anascorp that could quickly relieve her symptoms, but she was never told about the cost.

Did she ask how much it was going to cost? If she did, and the doctor blew her off, that's one thing. If she just assumed it would be paid for, that's something else.

Despite how much government tells everybody that health care is your right and everything should be free, it's still up to the owner of an insurance policy to understand what's covered, what isn't, and how much non covered things are going to cost.

If we lay down at let authorities do whatever they want to us without question, we can't really blame government too much for taking over our lives.

 

[Bible_Belt]

It is of course a reasonable request, but health care workers have no obligation to tell you how much anything costs. They can't be expected to know, because everyone pays a different price. The end cost to the patient is a long and complex calculation based upon your insurance coverage and billing terms; the patient might very well die before they got a definite answer.

 

[taiyuu_otoko]

So what would happen, from a legal standpoint, in the following situation:

I go to the doctor. He says I need X treatment. I ask if it's covered. He says he doesn't know. I ask how much it costs. He said he doesn't know.

Then I say, "well, I'm pretty broke. I only have five hundred bucks in the bank. If this ends up costing more than two hundred bucks, I'm not going to pay."

He says "whatever," and treats me.

Later, I get a bill for $5,000.

Would I be legally obligated to pay?

Would the insurance company/hospital/doctors group sue the crap out of me, send collections agencies after me anyway? Ruining my already destroyed credit in the process?

Is there some kind of small print somewhere saying I've got to pay whatever it costs, regardless of what it costs, regardless of what other kinds of agreements were made between me and the doc?

 

[Deep Dish]

In India cobra anti venom is 60 dollars a dose.

Yeah, in India.

In Mexico, the scorpion anti-venom costs US$100, but the cost goes through the stratosphere as the drug is imported and goes through distribution channels. The importation of a very rare drug is the reason for the spike.

For more explanation:

http://www.azcentral.com/business/articles/2011/11/10/20111110scorpion-drug-cost.html

 

[Bible_Belt]

So what would happen, from a legal standpoint, in the following situation:

I go to the doctor. He says I need X treatment. I ask if it's covered. He says he doesn't know. I ask how much it costs. He said he doesn't know.

Then I say, "well, I'm pretty broke. I only have five hundred bucks in the bank. If this ends up costing more than two hundred bucks, I'm not going to pay."

He says "whatever," and treats me.

Later, I get a bill for $5,000.

Would I be legally obligated to pay?

Would the insurance company/hospital/doctors group sue the crap out of me, send collections agencies after me anyway? Ruining my already destroyed credit in the process?

Is there some kind of small print somewhere saying I've got to pay whatever it costs, regardless of what it costs, regardless of what other kinds of agreements were made between me and the doc?

Would an ordinary, average person, as a patient under those circumstances, reasonably believe that such a statement by the doctor meant that there would be no charge? I think they would not, which means that you still have to pay. There would also be a windfall argument in that it is not right that you would get something for free, just because of a doctor's vague statements.

A guy I know crashed his car and woke up at the hospital. He tried to protest the medical procedures, saying he had no insurance. They pointed to the door and told him if he could walk out on his own, then they would not treat him. But if he couldn't walk away, then he couldn't refuse the treatment. He had several broken bones and could not walk, so he got a $25,000 hospital bill. That's not really the law - that's just how things tend to happen.

 

[backseatjuan]

In India/Mexico $100 is just as out of reach as $40,000 in U.S.S.A..

We have to keep in mind that our shadow world government is into eugenics and transhumanism; thus medicine is just out of reach of poor ****roaches like you and me.

But that's the policy. The f'cked up part is that the entire western medicine is geared towards treating symtoms and not healing the source.