No, you're a white guy in a third world country. This in no way supports John's theory.fuzzx said:I quite enjoy playing playstation, living with termites and ****ing the ****e outta my rich mexicana (I`m evidence supporting John`s theory btw)![]()
You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.
Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.
Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.
Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.
No, you're a white guy in a third world country. This in no way supports John's theory.fuzzx said:I quite enjoy playing playstation, living with termites and ****ing the ****e outta my rich mexicana (I`m evidence supporting John`s theory btw)![]()
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
No, you're following the herd. Don't mistake this for what it truly is.fuzzx said:I quite enjoy playing playstation, living with termites and ****ing the ****e outta my rich mexicana (I`m evidence supporting John`s theory btw)![]()
Im also not a provider though, so I figure I must have the genes she wants.
A losers life for me!!!![]()
Did you even read Rollo's post? Why don't you point out where in the "84 pages" that Rollo is repeating. What Rollo is saying is revolutionary. Everyone else can see it, why can't you?Deus ex Pianoforte said:Why? I don't see anything that hasn't been said in the 84 page looks-matter thread over in the Archives. That's why looks threads are banned.
Need a tissue?Deus ex Pianoforte said:Great example btw, Rollo. Nothing like breaking your own rules to encourage members to stay in line.
Ahh, the magnificent sound of a defeated man. We finally broke him fellas, and we owe it to Rollo, who put up a post that Deus failed to effectively refute. Not even ONE point. Perfect.Deus ex Pianoforte said:P.S. For the record, without being too wordy about it...you're wrong. Looks don't matter. Now will a rule-abiding moderator please erase this piece of ѕhit thread?
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.
You are projecting your own needs and desires as a man. To you, and me, and most of the other guys on this board, if she's ATTRACTIVE, and you get along with her, and she's reasonably feminine (this is the main problem with women these days), that's all you need to be attracted to a woman, cause your investment can end with you dropping your load and moving on to the next sperm receptacle. Women are stuck with the consequences of you dropping that load, should you choose not to support your offspring.swifTy said:now as for the provisioing i dont think its necesssary at all!!! SURE money makes it easier and you must have some to get by in life but you dont need mass wealth. you can live very simply and still be very happy. Her liking you will trump the money issue everytime. every damm time.
When i think about the girls i like or heck even the guys i like i dont give a crap about any tangible they have, their clothes, their cars, their money, or any of that bullsh!t i care about them. the person that they are.
indeedmahon83050 said:Rollo, you rule. No matter what some may say, you're right!
Legal/Illegal, these terms don't apply as laws change daily and with whomever is in office at any particular point in time so this argument really doesn't wash clean. I will not go into a political debate suffice it to say that not everything you see is reality. It's the interpretation of what you process which becomes your belief system.Deus ex Pianoforte said:This reminds me of when San Francisco started handing out gay marriage licenses even though it was illegal to do so. When you have the authority figures blatantly disregarding the rule of law, you have anarchy.
Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.
She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.
Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.
So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.
The words come later. The impression comes first.
This is not a flame, but for the life of me I can't figure out why some people are so fixated on ruling out certain things women look for in a mate, to the point where they don't even make an attempt to read the thread to see what it's all about.Deus ex Pianoforte said:You're giving him too much credit, in my opinion. Everything that is you is what matters, yes. But why didn't he write that then? Exactly. He singled out LOOKS. He thinks looks matter, and decided to write about it despite the fact that there are thousands of these threads out there and that they are banned.
Rollo does a lot of things according to his own personal agenda, and not sosuave's guidelines. And yes, it is not a good thing at all.Deus ex Pianoforte said:Regardless Karma, the fact is that you have a MODERATOR ignoring the rules on his own forum. Do you not see the danger in this?
iqqi said:This is such false propaganda.
I am glad some of you can see through this.
However, very well written piece.
And Swifty, what you described "your face, your smile, your body, your walk, your smell, the words you use, your tone, the way you talk, the way you interact with people, your eyes, your expressions, your jokes, your humour."
Is NOT looks.
That is a sum of qualities, and you are completely correct, THAT is what matters. Not genes. LOL!
Life experience is what shapes a man and who he is, and who a man is, THAT is what matters to the ladies.
When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.
Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.
Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.
The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.
WHOA! You're as wrong as the day is long. I've never seen Rollo arbitrarily close a thread because of any personal agenda or launch an attack becuase of a disagreement. Quite the contrary, here is a man who will gladly listen to your argument and then discuss all of the different possibilities then make a rational decision based on that conversation and his own life experiences. You're jumping on the bandwagon while it's warm but it's a rapidly sinking ship dude.iqqi said:Rollo does a lot of things according to his own personal agenda, and not sosuave's guidelines. And yes, it is not a good thing at all.
A mod should be objective, and Rollo is not.
I hope Allen takes notice of some of the red flags I have noticed.
Karma, you are bias, considering that you are friends with Rollo. He closed threads that he doesn't personally like - I've seen it! Giovanni Casanova did the same thing, in the past!KarmaSutra said:WHOA! You're as wrong as the day is long. I've never seen Rollo arbitrarily close a thread because of any personal agenda or launch an attack becuase of a disagreement. Quite the contrary, here is a man who will gladly listen to your argument and then discuss all of the different possibilities then make a rational decision based on that conversation and his own life experiences. You're jumping on the bandwagon while it's warm but it's a rapidly sinking ship dude.
John-467 said:So I guess you guys NEVER HEARD of dead beat dads? There's more piece of shyt dads out there then ANYTHING.
Good post as usual Rollo, keep it up. Dont mind this wanker either, I think he was just after one of the high caliber posts to grandstand.Rollo Tomassi said:This is why women always have the "prerogative to change her mind" so the most fickle of behaviors become socially excusable, while men's behavior is constrained to a higher standard to "do the right thing" by providing women with satisfaction of their security need. She is excused for her methodology while he is shamed for his own. This is why guys who are 'Players', and fathers who abandon mothers and children to pursue their innate reproduction method are infamous villains, and fathers who selflessly sacrifice themselves financially, emotionally and life decision-wise, are considered heroes for complying with women's genetic imperatives
Yes, this is the truth.Last Man Standing said:Karma, you are bias, considering that you are friends with Rollo. He closed threads that he doesn't personally like - I've seen it! Giovanni Casanova did the same thing, in the past!
Uh....I consider Rollo a friend as well. Met up with him on more than one occasion. He closed my thread earlier today. It had deteriorated due to some posters taking issue with something that wasn't there, so I knew it was coming and I don't blame him.Last Man Standing said:Karma, you are bias, considering that you are friends with Rollo. He closed threads that he doesn't personally like - I've seen it! Giovanni Casanova did the same thing, in the past!
Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.
She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.
Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.
So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.
The words come later. The impression comes first.