Why it's so important to bang a girl fast

[speakeasy]

I used to be of the mind that if I met a really good girl, a keeper, I should probably wait to have sex and not rush it. I'm starting to question that though. It might be a good idea to bang all women as soon as possible, be it miss right or miss right-now. Not for the sex itself, but for the shift of power that it gives a man.

In the dating process, the woman has the power at the beginning. Even if you have game, the woman still has the power. You had to approach her and she had to either accept or reject your advances. She has all the power. You have to get her to go out with you once you get her number. Once again the ball is in her court, she has the power of yes and no. You have to have conversation with her on the date and show her how fun a guy you are, and keep things interesting in the conversation. Most girls act like they need to be entertained by the guy on a date and they are judging you to see how much fun you are. They are the ones with the power at that point.

But something happens after you hit it. The power instantaneously switches to your side. You no longer have to impress her. Prior to this, it's the guy wondering if the girl is going to call him back after he left her a message. after you bang, the girl is now the one panicking that you may not return her calls. After that point, those awkward conversations of "so....where how many brothers and sisters do you have , blah blah" no longer happen. You can bring her out, say not a damn thing, and she will work to impress you. If you leave, act disinterested and don't return her calls on time, she freaks out and feels cheap. That one act of banging her for the first time is far more important than the act itself. It's the way you liberate yourself from that awkward "dating" situation where the woman has all the power and the man is buying her flowers and dinners and all that stuff to win her over. The first night of sex now makes the woman work to win you over and keep you which is a much more comfortable situation for us.

So I'm thinking even if she is a nice girl, try to hit that sh*t ASAP. Maybe not the first night, I think a girl has to be a straight up ho to spread her legs on the first date, but on the second date, if I was putting in a lot of work, I could probably still respect a girl if she gave it up.

 

[6-heads lewis]

edit - to stay on topic, i agree with banging ASAP. as soon as the sex happens, there's no tension or questions in the relaitonships, she knows the deal, and its an automatic each meet. it establishes you as the man, and if you are intimate and caring while having sex - like cuddling, asking what she likes, etc. - your value soars. it also puts you immediately above the competition who is still at the phoning and dating stage, since youve banged her, youre a fix in her life at least for the time being, if only so she doesnt feel used or slutty. like you said in your post, you dont have to worry about getting ignored or rejected at that point.

too much emphasis on these forums on gameplaying and stuff, just be a nice, natural, pelasant person who is also sexual, nonjudgemental, and confident. and be as good looking as possible. and assumes she wants sex as much as you do, and act accordingly.


ive met 6 women online, 4 of them i fvcked on the first meet, the other we did everything but fvck. all were within 20 minutes of meetingi n person

easy as pie. just act like having sex is the normal thing to do. no hesitation, no questions, no even suggestion of another outcome. just meet at a public place near your house, talk a bit, then start walking. if she asks where you're walking, say a nearby park or something.

then get her to mention a drink: water, juice, coffee, alcohol, anything. then bring her up to get her that drink

its so laughably easy. i lost my virginity at the end of february of this year at 23 years old, since then ive met 6 women, ****ed 4, got naked and oral with the 5th. the 6th is a stubborn woman from the balkans like me, where people act different. she has gf potential, we're meeting for an actual walk date next week. evben tho we didnt do anything, i was very frank and outgoing about sexuality and kissing and stuff, and got her to admit she's not a prude, is a sexual being, etc. AND she called me that night, and eager to set a date on her first day off.

the point is, just act like having sex is the normal thing to do. dont seem aggressive or angry or pushy, just act totally chilled out and open and friendly. none of these stupid 'act disinterested' games, just show up as good looking as possible, touch her, be direct, and get her over to your place. show no hesitiation, ask no questions, and make no inference to what is about to happen. act like shes coming over to have a coffee, then lay her down and put your arm around her. at an opportune moment within 5 min, kiss her.

again, take your fukn time, be relaxed, act casual, like you have sex all the time, and this is a perfectly normal thing to do.



this advice will be scolded BUT... dont skimp on marijuana or alcohol. whatever calms you down and eases your natural anxiety or paranoia or horniness or whatever blocks you. during the first few phone convos and meets im always on the cusp of being drunk. after the first date or two i can go sober with the same success, but there's no shame in taking 'supplements' to help you be all you can be.

 

[Colossus]

In the dating process, the woman has the power at the beginning. Even if you have game, the woman still has the power. You had to approach her and she had to either accept or reject your advances. She has all the power.

I think this is a poor philosophy to work by. Women have no power over you other than what you confer to them. By admitting you are essentially powerless until you hit it, you are making sex your only form of leverage---which is actually akin to what women do.

I wont disagree that once sex has happened there is usually a shift in who cares the most. This is natural and should be used wisely. The problem with the "hit it as fast as possible" plan is that you are preventing yourself from developing fully as a DJ. In other words, it's like you need to have sex to establish frame. Sex is certainly a component of it, but if you are deft at choosing the right women and conducting yourself in a way that conveys value---you can establish frame from day one.

If you arent attached to the outcome you really wont give 2 sh!ts if she accepts or rejects your advance. In this attitude right here you nullify female "power"---because you simply dont care.

ive met 6 women online, 4 of them i fvcked on the first meet, the other we did everything but fvck. all were within 20 minutes of meeting in person.

I'm glad you've been having success, but take it from a guy who has a lot more experience than you---online girls are easy to fvck. Im not trying to be smug here at all...this is just the way it is.

Online game is like trout fishing in one of those heavily stocked rec ponds---you know they are going to bite. If they had a steady flow of male options they wouldnt be online in the first place. Most of these girls are average in looks, they havent been laid in a while, and they are looking for love.

This is ok because it will give you experience and confidence, but eventually you need to move into the 'wild' and try your hand with more challenging game. I personally have found I am almost immediately disinterested in the girls who put out right away.

 

[speakeasy]

I think this is a poor philosophy to work by. Women have no power over you other than what you confer to them. By admitting you are essentially powerless until you hit it, you are making sex your only form of leverage---which is actually akin to what women do.

What I'm saying is that the very act of courting them in the first place is giving her power. Just like me applying for a job is giving the company the power of acceptance or rejection just by my very act of approaching them for work. Only once you get in and prove that you are too valuable to lose to the company do you take that power back.

If you arent attached to the outcome you really wont give 2 sh!ts if she accepts or rejects your advance. In this attitude right here you nullify female "power"---because you simply dont care.

Good point.

Online game is like trout fishing in one of those heavily stocked rec ponds---you know they are going to bite.

I think here the 80/20(or maybe 90/10) rule applies. I've looked at the stats and few men have success with online dating. I've known a few guys that have done well with it, but most people(men and women) seem to walk away dissatisfied with their experience in online dating sites.

 

[Colossus]

What I'm saying is that the very act of courting them in the first place is giving her power. Just like me applying for a job is giving the company the power of acceptance or rejection just by my very act of approaching them for work. Only once you get in and prove that you are too valuable to lose to the company do you take that power back.

I see what you're saying. I guess the difference woulod be that you might NEED a job, so you'll do what it takes. But you shouldnt need any one particular woman.

I think here the 80/20(or maybe 90/10) rule applies. I've looked at the stats and few men have success with online dating. I've known a few guys that have done well with it, but most people(men and women) seem to walk away dissatisfied with their experience in online dating sites.

Interesting. I suppose it would make sense, at least intuitively, that 20% of the men online are getting 80% of the results. If I had to venture a guess this would be based primarily on looks.

 

[ketostix]

Two things that I've noticed. If a girl doesn't have sex by the 2nd or 3rd meeting, then she usually never has sex with you. Maybe her having sex with you early or not is a sign of whether or not she's really interested or attracted in you. Or maybe the window of opportunity is really short with girls nowadays.

The other thing is even if you as the man are the one taking it slow and it's not her doing, it seems to put her in some kind of relationship/good girl mode. And with this she does have the power like Speakeasy explained. But now you have to go back to rule 1. If no sex by the 3rd meeting, then it never happens. Being strung along and waiting is a good way to develop oneitis. This wouldn't be so bad if in a reasonable period of time something sexual happened and a relationship ensued, but what usually happens is nothing sexual develops. This is a place you never want to be. She's probably out fvcking new guys fast while stringing you along.

On the other hand, most all of my fast sexual encounters fizzled out equally fast. So there is the hazard of falling into the girls one night stand mode the opposite of relationship/good girl mode It's a delicate complicated balance I guess. Women are fvcking weird.

 

[forward]

The sooner and deeper you do her, the better. This axiom needs no further justification, its truth being obvious.

 

[Da Realist]

Sex really isn't the real goal or should even be it: the idea is to get what you want. Period. I've sex with women the first time I met them; been cut off and still got it later; and even decided I didn't want it on the front end since my focus was on having fun without it, then basically seduced the girl later. Hell, you can buy sex if you want to. The things you should be concerned with is if the person is sane, have some sense, isn't too prudish or stuck up to have fun, meets your physical expectations, and isn't out only for herself. Now, don't wrong: you do not ever let them think that they can walk naked around you and not expect for something to go in them. At times they should almost be running away from you to a certain extent because they know if they get weak the clothes are coming off, and other times they should be hanging off of you intoxicated by all their emotions towards you since they no you can make them see stars. That's a little poetic, but I think that's the ideal picture.

 

[horaholic]

Or maybe the window of opportunity is really short with girls nowadays.

Right there. Strike while the Irons, hot, cuz there are always plenty of other hammers waiting to come down hard.

 

[PRMoon]

This is a very debatable issue. On one hand when i meet a girl, physical compatability is one of the first things on my mind. Can I have sex with a girl on the first date? Abso-f*ckin-lutely. Should I? There's the real issue.

In the past I've always lived by the philosophy, get the sex out of the way first. Afterall, if you can't have good sex with someone then you might as well concider the relationship dead. If you don't enjoy being intamate with your mate then psychologically you'll find other things you don't like them and pick them apart day by day. Every girlfriend I've ever had, including the current one, I've had sex with within the first 2 or 3 encounters. While it's worked so far there has been one trend that I always recognize.

Even when the sex is good with the girl, I'm not all that interested in getting to know all that much about her, excluding my current girlfriend who is off the wall bat sh*t crazy. Usually I'm pretty much done with them and ready to meet someone else. In essance, me having sex with them converted them into plates that I keep in touch with, but in no way are they my girlfriends.

By NOT having sex with them, I've got something to acheive. No I don't mean she has all the power and calls all the shots. I can get a girl to want sex from me and refuse it yet still keep them interested, it's a non issue. The point of building a relationship is to get to know one another. Her quirks her advantages and skills, everything you'd want to know about anyone else. If you break it down to physicality alone and make view the whole thing as a power struggle you're never actually going to get anywhere. You've taken the relationship out of the relationship in essance. If you want things to succeed then you have to realize that neither of you has any actuall power, you just have to do what you do best and with confidence. When you're into your own thing and not pandering to anyone else life will circle around you instead of you grasping onto it.