Why it is hard NOT to INITIALLY put an attractive woman on a pedestal.

[stuka1939]

The answer is very, very simple.

As I mentioned earlier, a girl who is atleast a HB6 (moderately cute) can have ANY GUY she wants ranging from the ugly guy to the male super model.

And by "wants" I mean sexual relations, not necessarily a relationship.

95% of men are still physically aroused by atleast a HB6 and will not turn down sex from one.

Since most men are turned on by atleast a HB6, it is easy to believe you are in competition with every man on the planet (despite attractive women being common) and automatically puts alot of value on the woman.

The reverse is NOT true for a 6 Man.

All that stuff about thinking you are the "man" and a great catch also does VERY LITTLE to help.

Face it, women HAVE MOST OF THE POWER since we are so visually oriented.

However, it is NOT OUR FAULT or AFC behavior since it is biologically ingrained in every males brain.

Also, If we are talking about the bar/club scene this number goes down to a 5.

What is the point of this thread? Nothing really, just a simple explanation of why it is hard not to be intimidated by a HB6 or higher. I am also not whining or being bitter, just simply stating something.

 

[iqqi]

This might sound TOTALLY insane... but I don't see anything wrong with putting someone on a pedestal when you INITIALLY meet someone you just love. For one, its fun. And for two, it is actually good game. Think early Michael Jackson, where he would follow the snobby chick down the street throughout the whole video in order to "win" her heart, meanwhile singing about how hot she is.

Omarion recently did a video just like that.

It is the natural order!!!

And it can be fun. As long as you never lose sight of your own self respect, and can call a spade a spade. Or a b!tch a b!tch.

I ALWAYS put new ppl on a pedestal at first, because I love making that connection with someone, and it is FUN.

 

[ketostix]

Stuka, I know a lot of people take jabs at you, but everything you said is true and I agree.

This might sound TOTALLY insane... but I don't see anything wrong with putting someone on a pedestal when you INITIALLY meet someone you just love. For one, its fun. And for two, it is actually good game. Think early Michael Jackson, where he would follow the snobby chick down the street throughout the whole video in order to "win" her heart, meanwhile singing about how hot she is.

Omarion recently did a video just like that.

It is the natural order!!!

And it can be fun. As long as you never lose sight of your own self respect, and can call a spade a spade. Or a b!tch a b!tch.

I ALWAYS put new ppl on a pedestal at first, because I love making that connection with someone, and it is FUN.

So you're telling guys to be a another useless number to women who validates her ego. You're telling guys to take away one of the most useful te chnigues for increasing a woman's interest. Unbelievable.

 

[iqqi]

So you're telling guys to be a another useless number to women who validates her ego. You're telling guys to take away one of the most useful te chnigues for increasing a woman's interest. Unbelievable.

No... what I am saying is to have fun in your pursuits. FUN! FUN! It isn't all bad. It isn't all serious. People should have more fun, and take time to really ENJOY the chase. It is so much better that way. I LOVE meeting new ppl that make me feel awed by them at first.

Anyways the real technique that works is push and pull. Pedestalling a chick is one of those verbs!

 

[ketostix]

No... what I am saying is to have fun in your pursuits. FUN! FUN! It isn't all bad. It isn't all serious. People should have more fun, and take time to really ENJOY the chase. It is so much better that way. I LOVE meeting new ppl that make me feel awed by them at first.

You mean have fun playing the game her way to her advantage right?

Anyways the real technique that works is push and pull. Pedestalling a chick is one of those verbs!

But push/pull is push/pull and pedistalizing is predistalizing. They're two different things. See that's the thing if you read Stuka's post you would see that being a guy is a whole different enviroment from being a female. That was one of his points and why you'll never get it and why you're advice is useless.

 

[iqqi]

But push/pull is push/pull and pedistalizing is predistalizing. They're two different things. See that's the thing if you read Stuka's post you would see that being a guy is a whole different enviroment from being a female. That was one of his points and why you'll never get it and why you're advice is useless.

I know a guy who ALWAYS has chicks wanting to be with him. I hung out with him and a bunch of other friends the other night, and observed something that at first I found strange. He completely pedestalized me and all the women around him. At first, because I know he likes my friend, I was worried! I thought she was going to think he was AFC for being so obvious about how great he thinks she is.

But then I watched her eat it up. And noticed that this happens all the time! She ended up making plans to do something she HATES doing, just to be with him!

Sosuave is a matrix within a matrix, some of the things that are drilled here, just are not the way it is in the real world ALL of the time.

Another thing I noticed about him, he is ALWAYS smiling and happy. He is having FUN doing what he does. If she didn't return his call or flaked? I highly doubt he's stew for too long. He has so many other women charmed!

Then also I realized that I do this. When I meet a guy that "wows" me, I love that feeling! I LOVE "pedestalizing" them. It makes it so much fun. IF it doesn't work out, its all good! The chase, the ride, was fun.

 

[Obsidian]

I think iqqi has a point. This forum kinda overblows the whole notion of success through indifference. Indifference can be useful, but I don't really like the idea of tricking a woman into falling for you through passivity and mind tricks. It gives too much power to the woman. I think if you like a woman, you oughta be able to come onto her even overtly. If it doesn't work out, it doesn't work out (THAT is where indifference comes in). But I personally just get tired of all the deception and manipulation.

Of course, the reason not to pedastalize a woman is because women are not goddesses and a real man has other important things to worry about. I personally find it hard to get excited about any woman who is not being respectful and/or flirtacious toward me. But if you encounter a woman you really like (for legitimate reasons, not merely her 0utward appearance), just go for it.

 

[taiyuu_otoko]

He completely pedestalized me and all the women around him. .

I knew a guy in college like this. supercute girlfriend back home, but different chick in his bed every weekend (in the effing dorms). The point is, he pedalized (or whatever) becasue HE liked doing it, not because he was doing it in hopes of a response from the chick. So I think the chicks were attracted to him because they sensed, on some level, that he was doing it only for HIS pleasure, and he really didn't give a sh1t how they reacted. He was one of the few naturals I had the pleasure of being good friends with. And he also, was ALWAYS smiling and making jokes, and even seeming quite effiminate at times.

for what its worth

Taiyuu

 

[comic_relief]

I knew a guy in college like this. supercute girlfriend back home, but different chick in his bed every weekend (in the effing dorms). The point is, he pedalized (or whatever) becasue HE liked doing it, not because he was doing it in hopes of a response from the chick. So I think the chicks were attracted to him because they sensed, on some level, that he was doing it only for HIS pleasure, and he really didn't give a sh1t how they reacted. He was one of the few naturals I had the pleasure of being good friends with. And he also, was ALWAYS smiling and making jokes, and even seeming quite effiminate at times.

for what its worth

Taiyuu

I know some people like this. I think that every naturals success is the fact that they are just having fun and are overall a really fun guy.

comic_relief

 

[insidious]

I would suspect there is some misunderstanding in the concept of "pedestalizing" (what a word).

My concept of pedestalizing is when a guy will cluelessly and blindly elevate a woman to goddess level despite the fact he may have only traded a few words with the said woman.

If a woman truly interests you, go for it. Pedestalize away...but don't lose your own identity, and don't become a lapdog.

I make it a point that my pedestalization is tainted with a twinge of ironic goofiness and sarcasm.

Yes, I think you're hot and interesting and I would go out of my way to be with you, but I will always be Insidious to the core and I will not relinquish an ounce of my identity for you, some strange girl I don't really know.