Why it’s cheaper to pay a lady of the night, rather than waste your time and money trying to “pick up” women in bars and nightclubs.

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If you do a cost to benefit analysis, it’s actually cheaper to just pay a hooker for sex, rather than waste your time and money trying to pick up a woman in a bar, or nightclub.

Think about it logically, when you factor in the cost of nightclub entry fees, alcohol, food and taxi/Uber fares, it’s cheaper to pay for it, plus the sex with a hooker will be better (if she knows what she is doing).

You know it makes sense.
The most cost benefit approach would be paying $30 a month for a gym membership and sacrificing a year for a ripped body.
 

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There is a great feeling being with a woman who is raging horny for you and begging ypu to put it inside her. That would likely be very rare from an escort.
Not it if you’re with an escort who knows what she is doing. Over the last 25 years I have had some of the most XXX porn star sex a man could hope for. Yes, I understand there is no validation in paying a hooker, but at the end of the day virtually all men pay for sex (unless you’re in that top 5% of men in terms of looks).
 

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The most cost benefit approach would be paying $30 a month for a gym membership and sacrificing a year for a ripped body.
I actually did attain an athletic body via exercise, but I just ended up being an ugly looking man with a good body. That said, men should exercise daily and have a healthy diet.
 

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I actually did attain an athletic body via exercise, but I just ended up being an ugly looking man with a good body. That said, men should exercise daily and have a healthy diet.
It might be your lack of confidence. I’ve seen ugly fat guys pull hot chicks simply because they feel like they have nothing to lose and can withstand 25 rejections for the night until they finally hit paydirt. It’s usually ego protection that holds most men back.

if you truely don’t give a fvck about external validation and rejection, it’s impossible to get rejected 100% of the time as a physically fit guy.
 

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Because you are a man. A man must determine his own SMV ,or at least be somewhat aware of it. Look ,you can say; " I prefer a hb9 and nothing else" while being a 5 or even a 7 or even a 8 yourself. Your whole life now is a big power struggle you're bound to always lose.

You're talking bars. We all been at a club once where we were drunk and at the end tried to take home a goblin . And if you managed to take her home the sex might've been super...

Back to my first paragraph. This man will slowly but surely lower his own worthiness by pondering to women that never even wanted him. How will that "increase " his selfesteem? He's just chasing a dragon aka he's after a future promise of tons of selfesteem he'll get via a hot woman...while never getting hot women..

I don't know the absolute truth. But i would advice this man to LOWER his standards and at least experience what's it like to have a woman creaming and screaming underneath him.

To simplify this even further;
Option A. Hot woman that acts lukewarm at best, gibes tons of headaches BUT your friends and strangers "respect" you because she is pretty.

Option B. Less attractive in his eyes, but treats him like a king and is happy to be with him.

What is better for his selfesteem? You tell me
As a guy who has dealt with women In the past I wasn't attracted too. I rather be alone than not be with an ideal type. She doesn't have to be a 10 or even an 8 and my 7 is different from most guys

While lowering your standards in your 20 to get your rocks off works in your late 30s is different I can't be motivated when I rather watch anime
 

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If you do a cost to benefit analysis, it’s actually cheaper to just pay a hooker for sex, rather than waste your time and money trying to pick up a woman in a bar, or nightclub.

Think about it logically, when you factor in the cost of nightclub entry fees, alcohol, food and taxi/Uber fares, it’s cheaper to pay for it, plus the sex with a hooker will be better (if she knows what she is doing).

You know it makes sense.
Makes sense.

Only difference is...

Hookers: Only do it for the money.

Non-Hookers: Do it because they "like" you.

I would rather get the bulk of my nuts from women that "like" me, instead of just from women who just do it for my $$$.

But it makes sense.
 

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Not it if you’re with an escort who knows what she is doing. Over the last 25 years I have had some of the most XXX porn star sex a man could hope for. Yes, I understand there is no validation in paying a hooker, but at the end of the day virtually all men pay for sex (unless you’re in that top 5% of men in terms of looks).
I’ll grant that escorts, in my experience, are WAY better at BJs than amateurs. Even very enthusiastic ones.
 

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If you do a cost to benefit analysis, it’s actually cheaper to just pay a hooker for sex, rather than waste your time and money trying to pick up a woman in a bar, or nightclub.

Think about it logically, when you factor in the cost of nightclub entry fees, alcohol, food and taxi/Uber fares, it’s cheaper to pay for it, plus the sex with a hooker will be better (if she knows what she is doing).

You know it makes sense.
Good looking hookers are expensive man.
 

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Good looking hookers are expensive man.
Yes, they can be, and good looking young hookers are often terrible in bed, but as I’m a 54 year old man I only see mature age hookers that range in age from 45-65 and I have to say some these older women take very good care of themselves, plus older women know what they are doing in bed.
 

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Not it if you’re with an escort who knows what she is doing. Over the last 25 years I have had some of the most XXX porn star sex a man could hope for. Yes, I understand there is no validation in paying a hooker, but at the end of the day virtually all men pay for sex (unless you’re in that top 5% of men in terms of looks).
Not sure if this has been mentioned on this thread. There definitely is a very different dynamic when you are having sex with a "civilian" who actually wants you vs. a "professional".

One thing to consider is that there are literally millions of women who are dating, in relationships or having sex with men that they aren't necessarily attracted to. Tons of women will marry men for resources/money, social status and even stability while not feeling a deep burning attraction towards the men they are with. Historically it was the norm for women to be set up with arranged marriages across many different cultures. There were also tons of men who had sex with women that also had no real say in the manner, look at any conquering culture or those with slavery and you will see this is a trend. The overall trend of what I'm getting at here is these women submitted to a man due to his status, resources or whatever you could potentially provide them. However, there were also cases where these women submitted with no other real choice.......this point here you should think about before where I'm going next with this.

Yes, paying for sex with a hooker is not the same as with a woman who is attracted to you. However, these women are submitting to you because of what you can potentially provide them, which is money. The entire act of a woman having sex with a man is based around her submitting to him, whether this be a hooker or a woman that is actually attracted to you. A man is validated by the idea of "conquering" a woman, you are just going about it in a different manner. Though it's a bit different, do you think the whole sugar baby-daddy dynamic is much different than something like this? In my opinion, at the end of the day men are paying for sex in one way or another, again there are a multitude of ways to which this occurs.

I also didn't notice your age earlier when I wrote my first post. At 54, you are basically going to be left with women well past their prime who most likely already having children. Ideally, men in the age range you are at would be married and already have their own children. If you enjoy sex with escorts there is nothing wrong with it, in fact for certain men it may be better than being totally celibate. I personally believe that celibacy is not good for the mental health of the majority of men, in fact it can be a very bad thing. I obviously don't know you and never will, but this is something you should consider.
 

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If you do a cost to benefit analysis, it’s actually cheaper to just pay a hooker for sex, rather than waste your time and money trying to pick up a woman in a bar, or nightclub.

Think about it logically, when you factor in the cost of nightclub entry fees, alcohol, food and taxi/Uber fares, it’s cheaper to pay for it, plus the sex with a hooker will be better (if she knows what she is doing).

You know it makes sense.
Not for me. It is risky. When I visited an escort back in Dec 5, 2014 (yeah, ancient history), I lost my sense of mental equilibrium, and could not eat, sleep, drive and honestly thought I was going to die that month. I didn't even have full on sex with her (ie we did something but not vaginal). I've learned about Ativan, Anti-Depressants, and did allot of online research into trying to find the type of things out there which would help mitigate what I had experienced at that time. I can say, money was spent renting a hotel room, herbals and other things to help ease my mind which cost allot more than I had paid for that escort.

I know that if that were to happen again now, I don't know if I an handle that again. You never had anything happen with your mind after visiting an escort? This thing doesn't play with your mind?
 

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Not for me. It is risky. When I visited an escort back in Dec 5, 2014 (yeah, ancient history), I lost my sense of mental equilibrium, and could not eat, sleep, drive and honestly thought I was going to die that month. I didn't even have full on sex with her (ie we did something but not vaginal). I've learned about Ativan, Anti-Depressants, and did allot of online research into trying to find the type of things out there which would help mitigate what I had experienced at that time. I can say, money was spent renting a hotel room, herbals and other things to help ease my mind which cost allot more than I had paid for that escort.

I know that if that were to happen again now, I don't know if I an handle that again. You never had anything happen with your mind after visiting an escort? This thing doesn't play with your mind?
That's not a normal emotional reaction to seeing an escort, did you seek help for that?
 

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I wish more men would seriously undertake learning how to seduce.

It’s a scintillating, sexy process. Men who understand seduction are delightful to be around and women enjoy their company, irrespective of what these men look like. Yes of course looks help but they are not required. Some of the greatest seducers in history have been objectively ugly.

Too many men around here treat women like they are porcupines or skunks….fear based “OMG what do I do???”

Of course that vibe is entirely anti seductive.

Banging escorts is outcome based and assures the desired result. But it is never going to meet the rest of your emotional needs as a human. Over time it may make you less socially adroit and less able to actually socialize with women, you will objectify women, women will feel this vibe on you, and you become more creepy.

The only way to avoid this is to see your hookers as people and spend time with them beyond sex. But that “girlfriend experience” which at least one member here does, gets much more expensive and still may not ever develop into genuine affection on her part.
Decent points.

I do find it a little strange the age OP giving this advice. This is more for younger men who want to get the experience, get comfortable with sex, not having their virginity hang over their head for years.

Im not young and heck, I want the talk, the connection, the listening, the conversation with woman. But I guess that’s the thing, young men want sex, young woman want connection and love. Older men want connection and love, older women want sex.
 

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If you just want to bang or relax, the pay2play route is definitely the best option.

Personally I believe the traditional route is the best when you're above a certain threeshold of value and the amount of decent women around you are enough and available.

If you are below 7, over 30 and in a big city in western europe, just wave your time, money and mental health for that night.
 

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That's not a normal emotional reaction to seeing an escort, did you seek help for that?
No. I just never saw another escort.

Also, no theapist will want to help a guy whose only problem is they want to visit escorts. Normally its to help guys who are ruining their marriages and finances with a destructive vice, like visiting escorts. That is absurd like going to a drug rehab center and ask them for help to take a drug because you got a bad reaction the first time you took one.
 
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Decent points.

I do find it a little strange the age OP giving this advice. This is more for younger men who want to get the experience, get comfortable with sex, not having their virginity hang over their head for years.

Im not young and heck, I want the talk, the connection, the listening, the conversation with woman. But I guess that’s the thing, young men want sex, young woman want connection and love. Older men want connection and love, older women want sex.
Guys also pay escorts to talk with them too. If a guy does not want sex the escort cant rape him. If it was just about getting off and not connecting then you can just fap to their ads or watch porn. You are visiting them because you want a connection that a fapping on their pics or subbing to their OF cant deliver.
 
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