“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

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Why is this forum so full of toxicity?

Zion

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Seriously. 95% of the posts here are about "BPD's", "women being evil", "heartless exes", "help im fugly", "marriage is hopeless" and so on. I do tend to agree with the marriage part but even in that case, people may have the right idea but for all the wrong reasons.

I'm trying really hard not to generalize but I think I can count the people that actually know what they're talking about around here on one hand.

Every single topic about some guy fvcking up has at least half of it's replies being a variation of "Oooohh maaaan, she was a b!tch to begin with. Fvck that bratty kunt man, you don't need her in your life". All this while the OP's text game amounts to "Hey how's your day?". Yeah, I wonder fvcking why she doesn't want to talk to you. My mom sends me more intriguing texts than that.

Then you got the "Help, she flaked once". And the most common advice? "next that kunt loololo how dare she have a life of her own lol fvck dat bish". I'm not necessarily saying that people are ill intended but there is an undeniable abundance of dudes taking some basic guidelines to absolutely unnecessary extremes.
It's unhealthy as fvck.

So every and all women that happen to reject you are a "worthless piece of existence anyway"? I've been rejected more times than half the guys here even tried, and I honestly do not remember the last time I called someone a b1tch simply out of spite or butthurtness. Whatever happened to self-improvement? When did this turn into s!uthate or whatever that sh!t is called?

Stop playing the constant role of victims and take some responsibility for your lives, for once. Then maybe you'll start seeing some progress. Empires aren't built in a day and women are not "the scourge of the earth". The way people treat you is a reflection of how you tread yourselves.
 

“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

Read more...

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I arrived on this forum having gone through a DIAGNOSED bpd "relationship" and I understand people having been in those being embittered by it.

However I agree it's good to keep a positive outlook if possible.

Any forum has its trolls and a lot of people come to a site like this off the back of bad experiences. People will learn at their own pace, I used to be bitter and feel like life was screwing me over, oddly enough it took going through a bpd "cycle" to finally wake me up and show me just how wrong I was getting life.

Sometimes you have to hit rock bottom in order to move up. And belive me when I finally came to the end of that journey I was lower than whale ****.

As I say people learn at their own pace, but yeah what you project, you attract.
 

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Zion said:
Seriously. 95% of the posts here are about "BPD's", "women being evil", "heartless exes", "help im fugly", "marriage is hopeless" and so on. I do tend to agree with the marriage part but even in that case, people may have the right idea but for all the wrong reasons.
Guys come to this forum because they have trouble with women. That's why there's a negative slant. If they were successful, they wouldn't bother to come here.
 

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zekko said:
Guys come to this forum because they have trouble with women. That's why there's a negative slant. If they were successful, they wouldn't bother to come here.
Exactly. I also think that some guys believe their situation is unique so they open a thread instead of reading previous thread dealing with the same situation.

Sometimes the laziness get the best of people and they are not willing to work. Because self-improvement, mentally or physically, is pro-active and can sometimes be hard. But being a victim, blaming the other sex for your lack of success requires no work.
 

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zekko said:
Guys come to this forum because they have trouble with women. That's why there's a negative slant. If they were successful, they wouldn't bother to come here.
You'd think this would be obvious, right? The irony, of course, is that the OP is contributing to the forum's negative slant by complaining about negativity. You are not going to make this forum a cheerful place by whining. If you have something positive and uplifting to say, go ahead and say it.
 

What happens, IN HER MIND, is that she comes to see you as WORTHLESS simply because she hasn't had to INVEST anything in you in order to get you or to keep you.

You were an interesting diversion while she had nothing else to do. But now that someone a little more valuable has come along, someone who expects her to treat him very well, she'll have no problem at all dropping you or demoting you to lowly "friendship" status.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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PairPlusRoyalFlush said:
Duh haha, we have probably just as many if not more self-righteous "whining about whining" threads as we do UNIQUE(non-troll) whining threads.
I've noticed that too.
 

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There is a lot of useful info here, but at the same time this place is kind of like land of the misfit rejects. Guys who are bad with women but place way too much value on them regularly come and vent their bitterness.
 

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zekko said:
Guys come to this forum because they have trouble with women. That's why there's a negative slant. If they were successful, they wouldn't bother to come here.
That's hardly a valid point.

Anyway, the idea is that this place is becoming a toxic environment for newbies that quite simply don't know any better. I doubt that's our purpose here.
 

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Because these guys are just a bunch of outcasts thinking they've stumbled upon the holy grail of socializing and *****. Most of them are angry and clouded but they think they've got it all figured out because they can pull 50 **** head women just like themselves.
 

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Get use to kid, you need thick skin with woman right? If it's too toxic for you then find a new forum. Plenty of others out there, go check out Reddit and see if it's less toxic.
 

What happens, IN HER MIND, is that she comes to see you as WORTHLESS simply because she hasn't had to INVEST anything in you in order to get you or to keep you.

You were an interesting diversion while she had nothing else to do. But now that someone a little more valuable has come along, someone who expects her to treat him very well, she'll have no problem at all dropping you or demoting you to lowly "friendship" status.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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Its a see saw cycle. There's never equal blame on both, its always one or the other. Scenario: John gets flaked on by Sally to go to a club. On here, its either John didn't text a proposition the right way or thats why she flaked or sally is just a sloot that wants beta orbiters. Reallistically, Sally wasn't attracfed to John in the first place, something actually came up, or she isn't sexually available. For John, we don't really know what he looks like and what he's really saying.
 

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The world is full of toxicity, why would this forum be any different?
 

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jurry said:
The world is full of toxicity, why would this forum be any different?
Because this site is supposed to be about improvement but is more like eating food laced with poison. You may get nourishment out of it but eventually the poison finishes you off.
 

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One of the problems is that anything productive is instantly drowned out by the swath of bad posts. This does several things. It drives away people like myself who try and post something useful and know something about the game, and two, breeds more contempt amongst active posters. At one point, you could pick out the good posts and use some of the advice to get better at getting a number, or a first date. Now, everything is so toxic, I have trouble reading it.
 

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zekko said:
Guys come to this forum because they have trouble with women. That's why there's a negative slant. If they were successful, they wouldn't bother to come here.
:yes:

All of our talk about crazy women IS "negative" per se, but it can also be a positive thing to he who listens to what happened to some of us and doesn't make the same mistake(s).

For he who has never dealt with a woman like this, I would bet that the minute he realizes what has happened to him, the unthinkable that he thought he was above, I would bet that this site will be the first place he comes... And he will be hunting all of us down who he knows have been through this sh|t.
 

“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

Read more...

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Its not the site....its the peeps.nn.some type well....others live well
 

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Because you need to be pissed off at the world and yourself to finally snap and really stop giving fuucks.
 

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There are many people who post here with different opinions about a lot of things.

We've got long threads of back and forth arguments between posters who disagree about various topics, meaning we all don't share the same opinion.

If you aren't going to be specific and just throw out hyperbole you might as well be addressing ghosts.

You're speaking in generalities because you're fearful of a direct challenge to your opinion, which makes this post rather pointless.
 

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The problem is not in bitter or toxic opinions and perspectives but the problem is in the REACTION.

When you are able to stop reacting based on emotions or because someone is having a different opinion then you will get to the next level of life game.

nothing is right or wrong but your judgement and reaction make it so
 

Just because a woman listens to you and acts interested in what you say doesn't mean she really is. She might just be acting polite, while silently wishing that the date would hurry up and end, or that you would go away... and never come back.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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