alphaace said:ok pete101, your getting a little out of hand, i suggest you check yourself in somewhere and stay a while.
Dont you mean Drift King?
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
alphaace said:ok pete101, your getting a little out of hand, i suggest you check yourself in somewhere and stay a while.
I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.
The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.
Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.
If she cancels or flakes or pulls some silly stunt to not meet up, is NC'ing at that point too late?Eternal87 said:This is SchoolBoy responding, due to maximum posts allowed.
It won't work because NOTHING you do will increase interest. I can't give you a scenario simply because I can't fortune tell or read the future. But what I can say is, whatever you have planned whether it be to beg, plea, make her feel like old times, make her feel like you DESERVE her, act ****y/funny etc... Whatever it is, it's not going to work because she's not interested. When a woman is attracted to a guy and has high IL, everything he does it attractive and cool. But when a woman has low IL or is unattracted, everything you do is lame and unattractive.
It will make it worse because by seeing her at all on Thursday, you're showing neediness and desperation. Whether you show it or not on the actual day. It's already implied when you begged her to see you. I know you feel like you need closure, but you need to learn some self control.
She made it clear to you that she's not interested. The fact that you keep clinging around her like a puppy dog is not only disrespectful to her decision but disrespectful to YOURSELF. You don't need to get her back, she will come back if she wants to.
The problem with people who have oneitis is that they feel as though they need to CONTROL the situation and the woman. This is due to fear, when people fear, they feel the need to control. And your actions are very controlling trying to sway her decision to be with you. Just let it go and let her have some time to think. She may even miss you within that time. But you need to stop the neediness and clingyness.
You getting mad at her was enough for her to wanna leave. It was your way of trying to control the situation and her behavior. she obviously doesn't like it. And you think another controlling act will change her opinion about you?
Quit trying to control the situation and learn to control yourself. Once you understand that, you'll be on your way.
Is NC the only way for her to get rid of those bad feelings and think more/less emotionally about it?DonGorgon said:Simple... cause its easier for her to cross you out emotionally if she only focuses on the negative memories of you.. e.i. you become "the evil EX" that she is glad she is not with anymore.. women create their own realities based to convenience..
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
Remembering the good times does nothing for a girl's IL. In fact you only draw attention to the bad things in contrast by doing this. Even if you could force feed her nothing but fond memories for a month it wont do a thing for a girl who's put you behind her. Accept this my friend.Confused said:Will she ever focus on the GOOD times?
What I meant was with No Contact etc, will she miss you and remember the good times you had?Rollo Tomassi said:Remembering the good times does nothing for a girl's IL. In fact you only draw attention to the bad things in contrast by doing this. Even if you could force feed her nothing but fond memories for a month it wont do a thing for a girl who's put you behind her. Accept this my friend.
Iron Rule of Tomassi #7
It is always time and effort better spent developing new, fresh, prospective women than it will ever be in attempting to reconstruct a failed relationship. Never root through the trash once the garbage has been dragged to the curb. You get messy, your neighbors see you do it, and what you thought was worth digging for is never what you thought it was.