"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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Why is it that the more attention you give a girl, the less they like you?

“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

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abundance versus scarcity

this then dictates supply and demand.

simple economics
 

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Tiguere said:
abundance versus scarcity

this then dictates supply and demand.

simple economics
That about sums it up.

Also in doing so you're no longer a mystery. You're too available. Say you like pizza and you have it everyday for a month. Chances you'll get bored of it and go for something a little more exquisite. It's somewhat the same concept.

And yes, not all women are like this
 

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I swear women can tell just by your pupil size if you are truly interested - in which case their interest level depreciates proportionally and instantly. If you happen to be attracted to a fat, old, tattoo'd biker chick - sorry, you are interested so therefore she is not!
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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First, guys shower any decent looking women with attention. It gets old fast. The guy who doesn't will clearly stand out.

Finally, young women especially, value their freedom. The idea of a guy POSSIBLY becoming clingy probably scares them.

I'm a guy and possible Stage 4 Clingers scares me lol.

But given all the attention women get, they are especially sensitive about a guy they aren't attracted to or only slightly attracted to becoming a clinger.
 
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bigneil said:
I swear women can tell just by your pupil size if you are truly interested - in which case their interest level depreciates proportionally and instantly. If you happen to be attracted to a fat, old, tattoo'd biker chick - sorry, you are interested so therefore she is not!

Where did you read that at? LOL...showing interest in a woman dosen't automatically make her lose interest in you. But to respond to the original question, making yourself too available does often turn a woman off. The solution is to simply have other things going on in your life, such as hobbies, personal projects you're working on, etc.
 

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jarworpar said:
Where did you read that at? LOL...showing interest in a woman dosen't automatically make her lose interest in you. But to respond to the original question, making yourself too available does often turn a woman off. The solution is to simply have other things going on in your life, such as hobbies, personal projects you're working on, etc.
Lol, as unlikely as it sounds, studies have shown women may be better at reading facial expressions from infancy. Your interest will very likely show in your body language/facial expression, and so will anxiety. Thus the "just be yourself" and the like. Women, with their life so dependant on having a finely honed ability to gauge nonverbal cues, could quite possibly smell duplicity on you, if not consciously at least via "vibes".
 

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You make her work for attention and even then it should be like a casino, where she doesn't know what she is gonna get. Treat it like currency. If she receives it too easy, she will take it for granted. Don't be clingy and you are all good. I ve a long list of women who have turned themselves into attention wh*res via this. In fact, of you are good at it she will have more interest in you, just not the right kind if interest. Anyway, if you don't show interest at all you are out of luck sir. Moderation and quality is the key here.
 

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The more I learn about women, the less and less I like them.

Just about everything involved with them is counter-intuitive. They almost seem like children who don't know what's best for them and will fight with you just because.

I find myself longing for the days when women were property. Why waste my time trying to win her over when I have the size and strength to just take and break her? (like a horse)

But no, men are civilized now and women have rights. Well, look where that has gotten us. Millions of angry and frustrated men. Only the small portion of men who "get it" are happy.
 

“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

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Maxtro said:
The more I learn about women, the less and less I like them.

I can relate to this. They've become objects of curious amusement to me. The way a male cat views a female cat. I've always been against the idea of serious commitment, learning more about women has me 100% willing to remain single for the rest of my lifespan.

Just about everything involved with them is counter-intuitive. They almost seem like children who don't know what's best for them and will fight with you just because.

Then it would probably annoy you that a good majority of men that are adept at attracting females can out do most of them at being immature. You'd be amazed at how effective a 8 yr old like tantrum is at getting girls to do what you want.

I find myself longing for the days when women were property.

Hell no. Women being property implies I have to dedicate time & resources for their maintenance, feminism has spared me that unfortunate torment.

Why waste my time trying to win her over when I have the size and strength to just take and break her? (like a horse)

Try hoodrats, I hear this technique is quite effective on those types. In all seriousness if you a girl is attracted to you, she will allow this to happen to her.

But no, men are civilized now and women have rights. Well, look where that has gotten us. Millions of angry and frustrated men. Only the small portion of men who "get it" are happy.
If so many men are angry & frustrated it just means that feminism exposed the collective weakness of those men. A lot of us have been weeded out because we struggle to adapt. I know the validation of having a woman or women can make you feel pretty good but most of my happiest moments didn't involve females or sex at all. I think on some level dudes just need to find some other avenue to happiness.
 

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lol, it really does suck huh? you want to be with them but if you're too available and give them too much attention they run off? it's kinda silly to me.
 

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If so many men are angry & frustrated it just means that feminism exposed the collective weakness of those men.
That's like saying if you cut off our oxygen supply and we suffocate, then you just exposed our collective weakness.

Having testosterone is not a weakness, it is the male condition. Men by and large have been subjugated in today's society. Men are forbidden from using their strength to overpower women (it's called rape), told their strength doesn't mean anything anymore (it's called women's lib), and forbidden from paying for sex (it's called the world's oldest profession).

This is a completely unnatural environment for men - it's not that men are inherently weak. Hence men have to "game" women (i.e. play games - or do things that are non intuitive) - or worse, men have to marry them, committing to one woman (also unnatural for men) and becoming their financial slaves. The court system overwhelmingly favors women. Women can cheat on you and take half your stuff - 80% of divorces are the woman's idea. The system of feminism was designed to keep men from being free. It wasn't about liberating women and doing what was fair. It's about taxing those women's labor, destroying the family and enslaving men. But go ahead and say I'm just whining. I picked up 3 women in the last 3 days, but I'm not going to pretend the system is a good one.
 

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bigneil said:
That's like saying if you cut off our oxygen supply and we suffocate, then you just exposed our collective weakness.

Having testosterone is not a weakness, it is the male condition. Men by and large have been subjugated in today's society. Men are forbidden from using their strength to overpower women (it's called rape), told their strength doesn't mean anything anymore (it's called women's lib), and forbidden from paying for sex (it's called the world's oldest profession).

This is a completely unnatural environment for men - it's not that men are inherently weak. Hence men have to "game" women (i.e. play games - or do things that are non intuitive) - or worse, men have to marry them, committing to one woman (also unnatural for men) and becoming their financial slaves. The court system overwhelmingly favors women. Women can cheat on you and take half your stuff - 80% of divorces are the woman's idea. The system of feminism was designed to keep men from being free. It wasn't about liberating women and doing what was fair. It's about taxing those women's labor, destroying the family and enslaving men. But go ahead and say I'm just whining. I picked up 3 women in the last 3 days, but I'm not going to pretend the system is a good one.
Goody. :up:

Never think for a second that I'm unaware of what's going on around me. If you've picked up 3 women in the last 3 days, try posting the field reports on how you did it. Give solutions. We know what's wrong, let's start trying to either fix it or adapt to it.
 

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I already posted about all 3 - how to pick up bartenders, what to do when you are interrogated, and (previously) how it's a turn-off when women beg for sex (ran into her again and she's back to begging).

And one thing we need to fix is the idea that Feminism is a good thing that we should accept. It's worse than Communism.
 

“The 22 Psychological Triggers That Make Women Chase You… Starting Tonight”

Forget the cash, the cars, and the chiseled jawlines. Female desire operates on a completely different frequency. Primal. Subconscious. Triggers that bypass her logic and hit her on a gut level. Most guys are totally blind to them.

I know because I was one of them. The overthinking. The paralysis. The silent drive home kicking yourself for freezing up. Watching average guys walk away with the girl while you stood there stuck in your own head.

Then I decoded the psychology behind what actually makes women tick. 22 hard rules.  Subtle behavioral shifts that rewired my entire reality. The anxiety evaporated. Women started leaning in. Investing. Chasing.

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bigneil said:
Men are forbidden from using their strength to overpower women (it's called rape)
You make it sound like that's a bad thing that it's forbidden, lol.
 

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Ok, let's get something straight here.. There is a difference between Interest and Desperation. There is nothing wrong with showing a women some attention, but if you let it get in the way of your own personal objectives, then it turns into desperation.

If you're giving a girl attention and wish to pursue something more than casual dating, and she's blowing you off because you ACTUALLY give her attention.. Then she is probably not the type of girl to spend time in a relationship with.
 

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This is only true for girls that are not 100% into you. When you find the right person, all of those games and issues go out the window. My current gf and I, from day 1 we knew we wanted to be with each other, and there just was no need to play any games or to pretend like we weren't 100% into each other. Instances like these are rare, but they do happen. Most of my previous relationships, there always has to be a little bit of the push/pull type of thing going on, and that can get to be exhausting after a while. Nice to get with someone where that isn't needed. You can just enjoy each other.

Gf of two years>http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/585/rose44.jpg/
 
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