"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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Why is it so ****ing impossible to lose my virginity?

blueline

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Maxtro said:
Unless one can get laid on a regular basis it's probably best to let the beast stay asleep.
This is the only smart thing you've posted here, haha. I agree completely. I got an 8 as my second lay and this has mentally ****ed me over. I was just lucky, spun the wheel and landed on a needy bipolar 19 y/o with a perfect figure looking to rebound. I wish I just stuck to the original plan of pumping her and ditching her because that relationship has caused my grades to slip so bad.
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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Scion said:
k, find me a guy that was in my situation, hired a hooker, then started getting girls, and I'll go off and hire one. Otherwise I'm not gonna believe that will have an impact.
I know one on the forum who has since banged about 40 chicks bro
 

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nismo-4 said:
Do what Bud Bundy did.
Actually Ted Bundy would be a more effective way to go if you ask me
 

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Your problem is that you are a cesspool of negativity. A lot of the guys here have given you good advice and you ignore them and whine.

I'm tired of your excuses. Do you want to be a 30 year old virgin? 40 year old virgin?

I was in the same boat. I had the iron determination to make my life better.

I know your life sucks right now. Do you want the rest of your life to be like this...
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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Many times, in order to lose it, you need to lower your standards in the looks dept. But it's not all bad...I knew this one chick who was downright ugly, but she was such a good, sensual kisser, that my **** would be hard as a rock for the longest time ! The important thing is that you stick w/ your principles : Not losing your virginity while at the same time you are doing stupid stuff like giving flowers, paying for her friends drinks, etc, is much worse than being a virgin who doesn't put up w/ any female B.S.
Get a chick in a CLEAN, comfortable enviornment, make out w/ her. If she's responsive, gently move her hand down to feel your hardness, then escalate further until she's hot as hell. Whisper, "Let's go !" and lead her by the hand to the bedroom.
 

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Rubirosa said:
Many times, in order to lose it, you need to lower your standards in the looks dept. But it's not all bad...I knew this one chick who was downright ugly, but she was such a good, sensual kisser, that my **** would be hard as a rock for the longest time ! The important thing is that you stick w/ your principles : Not losing your virginity while at the same time you are doing stupid stuff like giving flowers, paying for her friends drinks, etc, is much worse than being a virgin who doesn't put up w/ any female B.S.
Get a chick in a CLEAN, comfortable enviornment, make out w/ her. If she's responsive, gently move her hand down to feel your hardness, then escalate further until she's hot as hell. Whisper, "Let's go !" and lead her by the hand to the bedroom.
I'm not lowering my standards further. I'm not going after 8s/9s/10s, usually I'm going after 5s/6s/7s. Lower them further would be going after fat warpigs which I'm not going to do. I'm not a bad looking guy, some would say I'm good looking. So no reason I can't get with a average looking girl. I've lowered my standards once before, went for a girl that at best was a 4. The ***** wouldn't even let me **** her, she expected to be wined and dined for a few weeks/months first. **** that.
 

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Judging by your thread title, your objective is to lose your virginity, not find a girlfriend you will be proud to show off to your buddies. Besides, what in the hell is the difference anyway between a 4 and a 6 ? Get what I'm saying ?
 

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Rubirosa said:
Judging by your thread title, your objective is to lose your virginity, not find a girlfriend you will be proud to show off to your buddies. Besides, what in the hell is the difference anyway between a 4 and a 6 ? Get what I'm saying ?
the difference is that I'd be disgusted with myself after. I feel disgusted that I even let that 4 suck my ****. I'd at least like to be proud of banging a decent looking girl, otherwise I'd just get a hooker.
 

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Would you be more disgusted w/ yourself if you remained a virgin ? Look, you're missing the point here. You are basing your self image on the looks of a girl. I got news for you...are you planning on marrying the first chick you bone ? Of course not ! There will be others in the future, so what does it matter how hot the girl is that takes your cherry ? I'm on your side here bro, but you're acting like a kid that see's a Bruce Lee movie, then marches in to a Kung Fu studio expecting to do sumersualt kicks on his first day. Who knows, maybe the 1st one will be hot, but your mindset right now is setting you up for failure because you're creating all these classifications before you've slipped on the condom.
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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Scion, listen to me because im seriously tired of seeing you throw away perfectly good advice, no one here is making fun of you until you started showing us how desperate you are. Yeah. YOU ARE DESPERATE I SAID IT.

Listen, you got the desire but your letting the stress kill your chances, women don't want a guy who has tons of drama and stress they want a guy who is relaxed and cool with everything, yet they dont want to be able to walk all over him.

Listen, go onto okcupid.com and plentyoffish.com and put on some good looking pictures of yourself, i mean take multiple pictures and pic the best ones with the best angle, mwhen you fill out your profile give a couple of details and things you like to do but don't fill the whole damn page out. Contact women don't wait for them to contact you, hit up the decent to good looking ones and when they reply( trust me they will) just be natural.

From my experience the good thing about online dating is after you get the phone numbers it gives a chance to build yourself up a bit, plus if you get really lucky youll find a girl who will be talking about sex by the time you two are going out, dude ive slept with 10 different women because of those two websites, trust me so can you, **** ive lost my virginity at the age of 15 because of myspace.

Its not nearly as complicated as it seems, the first time is gonna be kind of difficult since you haven't done this kind of thing before but believe me it will happen, these girls will have an investment in you and they will know what they are getting themselves into unlike these girls at the clubs who are drunk when they talk to you.

This is your best chance man trust me, and don't give me any of your excuses because quite frankly you sound like a guy who wants the pvssy but doesn't want to work for it at all and im not the only one whos tired of trying to help you.

Quit getting on this thread and do those two websites
 

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OP, don't listen to the clowns on here. Most of them are virgins themselves or have had sex with 1 or 2 average girlfriends.

I would say it's only a matter of time for you since you hit up clubs so frequently.

You're right about banging a fugly chick or whale not being an option...no attraction whatsoever, your pride takes a shot, and there's no feeling of accomplishment since the woman in question is arguably non-feminine to begin with.

There's a middle ground between warpig and HB.
 

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OP, don't listen to the clowns on here. Most of them are virgins themselves or have had sex with 1 or 2 average girlfriends.

I would say it's only a matter of time for you since you hit up clubs so frequently.

You're right about banging a fugly chick or whale not being an option...no attraction whatsoever, your pride takes a shot, and there's no feeling of accomplishment since the woman in question is arguably non-feminine to begin with.

There's a middle ground between warpig and HB.
Im not telling him to fvck a whale.

What im saying is the girls he's meeting at clubs don't have any investment, they are most likely drunk wich means they may kiss him at the club when they normally wouldn't, and clubs aren't great places to do this because bottom line your either getting pvssy or wasting time, the only middle ground is if you run into a sober chick and you guys actually do some talking.
 

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Wasn't talking about you thunder, was talking about the people that have told him to just get it over with with a fattie.
 

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you are going about this the wrong way.
instead of walking around thinking "i have to loose my virginity..."
you need to unclench and then walk around "acting" as if you score all the time.

like attracts like.
if you act like a slut.... maybe you will attract one.
if you attract ONE, your whole situation gets easier.
 

“The 22 Psychological Triggers That Make Women Chase You… Starting Tonight”

Forget the cash, the cars, and the chiseled jawlines. Female desire operates on a completely different frequency. Primal. Subconscious. Triggers that bypass her logic and hit her on a gut level. Most guys are totally blind to them.

I know because I was one of them. The overthinking. The paralysis. The silent drive home kicking yourself for freezing up. Watching average guys walk away with the girl while you stood there stuck in your own head.

Then I decoded the psychology behind what actually makes women tick. 22 hard rules.  Subtle behavioral shifts that rewired my entire reality. The anxiety evaporated. Women started leaning in. Investing. Chasing.

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penkitten said:
you are going about this the wrong way.
instead of walking around thinking "i have to loose my virginity..."
you need to unclench and then walk around "acting" as if you score all the time.

like attracts like.
if you act like a slut.... maybe you will attract one.
if you attract ONE, your whole situation gets easier.
Penkitten, that's about as possible as you going up to an Arab person and having a conversation in Farsi. Sure you can pretend that you know what you're saying, but everybody who listens, can tell you can't speak it.

A virgin acting like he gets it all the time isn't going to fool anybody. That's basically due to the fact that he wouldn't even haven't clue how to act.
 

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Maxtro said:
Penkitten, that's about as possible as you going up to an Arab person and having a conversation in Farsi. Sure you can pretend that you know what you're saying, but everybody who listens, can tell you can't speak it.

A virgin acting like he gets it all the time isn't going to fool anybody. That's basically due to the fact that he wouldn't even haven't clue how to act.
well, acting like a virgin isn't getting him anywhere.
something has to give?
 

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thegator39 said:
OP, don't listen to the clowns on here. Most of them are virgins themselves or have had sex with 1 or 2 average girlfriends.

I would say it's only a matter of time for you since you hit up clubs so frequently.

You're right about banging a fugly chick or whale not being an option...no attraction whatsoever, your pride takes a shot, and there's no feeling of accomplishment since the woman in question is arguably non-feminine to begin with.

There's a middle ground between warpig and HB.
Whether you agree w/ what's being said or not, you shouldn't insult people who are giving their time and opinion to help. I don't feel like getting into an argument w/ you, but I can tell you that the O.P. will have a sense of acomplishment after he's banged his first regardless if she's pretty or not. If the OP is just going after a hot one for his first, then he's already narrowing his field of chance...This is just about getting laid.
 

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penkitten said:
well, acting like a virgin isn't getting him anywhere.
something has to give?
Dude, he's not acting like a virgin he's acting needy, he's going out with the thought in his head that he needs sex, when hes actually trying to measure himself up as a man. I mean seriously with the way things are today there is a stigma around 24 year old guys who are still virgins. The reality being that it just doesn't matter what time he loses it, what matters is him keeping his composure regardless of if he loses it or not.

Its not like getting pvssy is the key to inner harmony or some ****, its just something we experience that has been blown way out of proportion.

Kinda like my ex, i blew her out of proportion:up:
 

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Scion said:
I'm starting to doubt this stuff will ever work out for me. So let's talk about what I do. I usually go out twice a week to clubs, or the occasional party. I open between 5-7 sets a night minimum. Have been keeping up that pace for the last 2-3 months (occasionally I miss a night out when stuff out of my control happens). At the beginning all the sets I opened went bad, but a couple of weeks in I noticed that changing. Started getting better convos (most of them go nowhere though), started getting numbers (maybe 1 a night), started getting make-outs (I always kiss the girls I get numbers from). But in that time I've had 1 date, and that was 2 months ago.
There is a progression here. You are saying that you started out where all the sets you opened went bad, to getting numbers, make-outs, and a date.

Scion said:
****, even this wknd when I had an excellent wknd (I was approached by 3-4 girls a night, something that's never happened to me before) I still didn't find one girl interested in pushing it further than a random make-out in a club. Even the girl that approached me and was making out with in 5 mins is a no go. God, I was able to move this chick around the club, dancing, extended makeouts. Got her number but every time I've contacting her she's not answered.
Isn't that nice, you were approached by women now too. So, you have to think about how things are when you started, and how things are today.

Start: All your sets you opened went bad.
Now: You are socially fluid -- you are just one step less than what you want.

So, why are you hard on yourself and beating yourself up when there is this much progress?

This is a great example of someone who is trying and should be an inspiration to everyone.
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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