"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Why is it ok for us guys to keep getting tested and the females don't?

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Well, the title above is self explanatory. If we are supposed to be the prize why should we keep getting tested? Doesn't that in a round about way imply that the female are the prize if they have to keep putting all these tests for us to pass?
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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jafyk said:
Well, the title above is self explanatory. If we are supposed to be the prize why should we keep getting tested? Doesn't that in a round about way imply that the female are the prize if they have to keep putting all these tests for us to pass?
The key isn't to pass their tests, it's to not care about their tests. Who gives two shyts if you pass some stupid test from a girl? The very fact that anyone would spend time figuring out how to do that shows you're not the prize. Take it from me, they guys that women really become attracted to couldn't care less about their tests.
 

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Sometimes the way they go about is so annoying. It's like someone being in your face without actually being in your face. You gotta do something so they can leave you alone. Sometimes these tests are disguised as genuine concerns, and so you fall into the trap of trying to figure out if it's a test or a genuine complaint. If it's a genuine complaint and you just pass it up, then you're like the jerk who doesn't care about the relationship and just wants things his own way. I think a relationship should be a 2 way thing.
 

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I test females all the time. We don't need anyone's permission before we are allowed to give them some sh!t test, you know.

Also, when they give you a sh!t test, it says just as much about them as it does about you.
 

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Most females don't get "tested" because most men don't have the c-o-jones to do it, or to not allow themselves to be "tested" by women.
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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Jitterbug, what does them testing us say about them?
 

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jafyk said:
Jitterbug, what does them testing us say about them?
A classy lady will not give you a test that a slapper does.

A test from someone of quality will still be a considerable challenge, but will not be disrespectful nor insensitive like from someone who lacks class.

A test shows what the tester is looking for or not sure about you.

A test may reflect on the tester's insecurities.

There are plenty more to think about.
 

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Hmmm, Jitterbug you freaking me out,lol. Just kidding.
I love the points you've touched on , this is an interesting way of looking at tests. So you're telling me you've not met a classy lady who gave you a sh!tty test?
 

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Once again Jafyk,this is another loaded question.I'll try to explain it the best I can,but forgive me if it seems like a biology lesson.Ok,why is it ok for men to get tested and women don't? Well,here goes.Basically,it comes down to biology.The male body produces millions of millions of miilions of sperm over a lifetime.We man can even produce sperm in our 80s and 90s.Each time a man has sex,each time,he releases enough sperm to inpregnate every woman in the United States twice.Women,on the other hand,only produce 1 egg per month.If you do the math,that means from the time they start pruberty (around age 13 or 14) to the time they start menopause (around age 45,46),they only produce what,800 or 900 eggs? And consider this,each month that passes by without her being pregant,that's one less egg,one less opportunity to ever conceive a child.Women have small window of time that only get smaller as they get older.The reason they test,the reason they are so picky,is because they have a limited supply of eggs.They aren't like us men.We can have sex,release a couple million sperm,and in 4 or 5 days,our body will already have produced 2 or 3 million more,but when a woman has her period,and the egg is released from her body,that's it.It's gone.And when it's gone,it's gone for good.In other words,they don't have time or that is,eggs to waste.So they test in order to find best mate possible.If you only have a limited supply of something,you are not just going hand it out to anyone who comes along,you want to make sure to give it to someone special,someone different,someone who stands out from the rest of the crowd.So,in order to find the best canidate,they test.Does any of this make sense?I mean I understand it in my head,but like I said,it's hard to put into words.Hope this answers you question.
 

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Gentlemen lemme give you "Igetit's biological approach to the female test" lol
Yeah, man i get what your saying; however this would be true if every woman looking for a man was looking to get impregnated by him and from the way it seems these days there are quite a number of women who are not looking to even have kids or relationship but just sleep around with the right guy who does all the DJ stuff.
Then again I heard there are more women in the world than men. Wouldn't you agree with me then that given the info you gave me above that thigns are balanced? Anyway, I guess what you say makes more sense in the aspect of a woman meeting a new man. How do you explain all the testing when a woman has established a relationship with a man and even has the children she was waiting to have with the right guy. When you think about it isn't the fact of men misunderstanding a woman's test the reason for all the troubled relationships and break ups. What's that American saying "if it aint broke don't fix it?" Most times is it what guys do that brings these tests upon them? I got the impression the tests were just random occurences.
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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jafyk said:
Hmmm, Jitterbug you freaking me out,lol. Just kidding.
I love the points you've touched on , this is an interesting way of looking at tests.
The best way to pass sh!t tests is to reflect them back on the tester and reframe them so that you're now the one testing her and she has to qualify herself to you.

So you're telling me you've not met a classy lady who gave you a sh!tty test?
I'm not ruling that out. It's just not likely, unless she deliberately goes out of character to test me.

Igetit, that gigantic paragraph on biology & evolution gives me headache. Whatever, it doesn't stop men testing women if we want to. I test all women that are involved in my life. I only have so much time & energy to spend on them and I gotta spend it wisely.
 

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Hey,I hear what you guys are saying,and it does make sense.True,I don't believe when women are in their late teens,and 20s are looking to get pregnant.Of course not.However,that doesn't change the way the body is designed to function.For example,if I go outside when it's 100 degrees,I sweat.It's automatic.I don't get to "decide" if I want to sweat or not.It isn't a choice I get to make.That's how the body is programmed to work.If I cut my finger,in a couple of days,it heals.It's automatic.I don't have to remind myself to heal,the body does it by itself.The same thing is true with sexual attraction.With her "logical mind",she's just looking for fun or whatever when she's interested in a guy.But the programmed part,the part that automatically heals your finger when it is cut,the part that automatically makes you sweat when you're in 100 degree weather,that part is the part that drives her to test guys she's attracted to.And it doesn't stop when she's in a relationship,the "program" still keeps running.When a guy is in a relationship with a woman who he really likes,who he is happy with,who he wants to stay with for a while,does he stop being attracted to other women? Of course not.His "sexual program" still continues to run.If the woman he is with has a pretty face,big boobs,and he is 100% attracted to her,and in a established relationship with her,does his "sexual program" shut off just because he is in a commited relationship? Does he stop being attracted to other women because he's in a relationship?Of course not.It's the same for women. Her "sexual program" doesn't stop just because she is in a relationship. It doesn,t shut off because she has had children.Her "sexual programming" doesn't say to her,"Ok,we're in a relationship now,so we can stop testing". It doesn't work that way.
 
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