"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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DarkZero

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hi, i just joined the forum... ive been an active reader here for a while. year or more probably. i have gotten more confident and outgoing, but my one problem is one on one conversation with a girl i'm interested in. how can you guys do it? i mean, i can talk to her initially, but it's not long before i hit the weird silence where we dont have anything to say. i analyze the last thing wetalked about, find nothing... and cant think of a new topic to bring up. what do you do during these moments?

i know i can do it... cause if i talk to any girls im not interested in i can talk forevor (well, talk and listen)! it's just the girls i'm interested in. i want to be the funny, outgoing, fun to talk to guy that i am with the regular girls when im talking to those HBs. sorry if this seems AFCish, i just havent found any real good convo stuff to help me yet
 

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Forget the cash, the cars, and the chiseled jawlines. Female desire operates on a completely different frequency. Primal. Subconscious. Triggers that bypass her logic and hit her on a gut level. Most guys are totally blind to them.

I know because I was one of them. The overthinking. The paralysis. The silent drive home kicking yourself for freezing up. Watching average guys walk away with the girl while you stood there stuck in your own head.

Then I decoded the psychology behind what actually makes women tick. 22 hard rules.  Subtle behavioral shifts that rewired my entire reality. The anxiety evaporated. Women started leaning in. Investing. Chasing.

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i know what you mean. The trick here is not really to learn conversational skills, but to build your self-confidence to the point that you have the same attidude toward all girls i.e. YOU ARE THE CATCH. If you have this attitude talking should come easily, and if a HB is not very talkative she really isnt worth your time.

Just build yourself up. Confidence=conversation
 

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Originally posted by DarkZero
hi, i just joined the forum... ive been an active reader here for a while. year or more probably. i have gotten more confident and outgoing, but my one problem is one on one conversation with a girl i'm interested in. how can you guys do it?
You're probably very nervous, or you're overtrying. Stop. Ask her anything. And I mean anything. For instance, you could find out about what had breakfast. Then you can ask her about all the other foods she likes and what she'd love to have. If she didn't eat, ask her why. That should carry into another topic. This could even lead to a lunch/dinner date if timed well.

What she did last weekend; her hobbies; her ambitions and desires; friends; summer; winter; fall; spring; how's her day/week going; what are her plans this evening and upcoming days; music; movies; books; games; parents/family; [insert some recent or upcoming local activity]; weather; sports (ask if she likes any first); idols; drinks; ...

You know how many hours are in those few open-ended topics I just listed? Of course, your relationship isn't going to last long if you just talk like this. You need to create memories together, and talk about new things. Just see where it takes ya.


i mean, i can talk to her initially, but it's not long before i hit the weird silence where we dont have anything to say. i analyze the last thing wetalked about, find nothing... and cant think of a new topic to bring up. what do you do during these moments?
Analyzing is bad. I hope you don't go home and beat yourself up over things said and not said. This is descructive. Remember, if she's interested, she's probably just as nervous as you. You can probably afford a lot of "goof ups" and they'll be overlooked. Either way, once a conversation is over, don't analyze.

As for silence. Learn to make them not ackward. Use it as a chance to make EC and flirt w/ your smile and eyes -- especially on the first date. Good EC! Good EC! Remember it well. Besides, you're guy. Do you really wanna talk? These silences are great, IMO. :p Anyway, if she doesn't revive the convo in 20 seconds or so, ask another open-ended question.


i know i can do it... cause if i talk to any girls im not interested in i can talk forevor (well, talk and listen)! it's just the girls i'm interested in. i want to be the funny, outgoing, fun to talk to guy that i am with the regular girls when im talking to those HBs. sorry if this seems AFCish, i just havent found any real good convo stuff to help me yet
Have you ever heard that the harder you try, the deeper you sink? Let her talk, tease her if you find something goofy or funny about her, use kino when possible, and use those eyes man! But "stare." If you can talk and joke around w/ your girl-friends, then why not her?


Anyway, these are merely words. I know how hard it is. You probably have more work to do than learning how to be a good listener.


EDIT: But "share" = Don't "stare"
 

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thanks dude, you don't know how much that helped! i feel a lot more confident after reading that, i cant wait for my next chance to talk to her :). i know it will be hard when the time comes, but nothing to worry about... just go with the flow right. dont think about everything and dont worry. thanks again
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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