Why I think men struggle with women in modern dating today

[BadBoy89]

Unfortunately we aren't quite there yet .......men are still idolising them for simply existing

Correction: men idolize hot women under 30 who are fertile with 0 kids and 0 divorces.

No one idolizes a girl over 30. No one idolizes a single mother. No one idolizes a fat woman. No one idolizes an ugly women.

 

[HaleyBaron]

Correction: men idolize hot women under 30 who are fertile with 0 kids and 0 divorces.

No one idolizes a girl over 30. No one idolizes a single mother. No one idolizes a fat woman. No one idolizes an ugly women.

The way it works is that while men do simp for 30+ women, they are doing it in a way that they know that the woman is only good for quick ****s. Which is why most of the men who DM or comment is always saying some sexual compliment. Contrast that with how men talk to a woman that is valuable like young women. They hardly if ever bring anything sexual up cause they know she is a gold standard and could scare her away. Meanwhile, all the women you listed are used goods, sluts, and/ or not worth marrying. Even if you scare them away, you have less care for doing so.

 

[Bingo-Player]

Correction: men idolize hot women under 30 who are fertile with 0 kids and 0 divorces.

Shouldn't be idolising them at all

its not that difficult to have a pu$$y , a pair of T!ts and a decent figure

Yet some men seem to repeatedly treat them as if they are they rarest things on earth

Very bizarre

 

[CornbreadFed]

You're not the first to come here with this and certainly not the last. The problem with your thread is that you're jumping into the pool of sharks telling us how to find food. It's almost incredibly autistic if not outright egotistical af. As if you are trying to posture that your nuts are bigger than ours. It's cringe.

You also are unaware how stuff goes here because you continue to keep trying to shove your way into the dynamics of this forum. And instead of listening to the warnings, you are just downplaying everyone around you and saying you are right, which just makes you look worse already as a newbie. When I said sit and listen, I meant it to keep you from embarrassing yourself. You may be the biggest player on the planet, but you're not doing any favors acting like a big shot right out the gate.

I honestly do not give a flying fvck about what you have to say. Good job wasting two paragraphs or whatever you posted because I ignored 99% of it.

 

[Robert28]

nternet.

Woman use to have to settle, now they can go online and try to get the pick of the litter. And there are predators happy to lean to that. So they experience a lot of bad relationships (but hey the guy was hot at least) and it turns them off from the whole thing.

Others are taught to never “settle” and so they don’t, and remain lonely and single mentally converting it to a win instead of simply relaxing their standards.

On the guy side, we simple cannot compete with the list of physical and mental requirements, disqualified for things beyond control like height, age, hair pattern etc.

So yeah the days of the meet cute, the days of “close enough”, the days of “ticks most but not all the boxes” are gone. It’s tick 100% of the boxes, your opening line better charm me, and do not say the wrong thing for at least the first month worth of dates. Players can hold that standard long enough to get what they want before move on, the rest that do want more make some mistake and it’s over.

Keep in mind that very thing I describe is based either before actually meet or just first month of dating. If can get past first month might have a real chance but getting that far is the hardest part of it all because of everything mentioned above.

 

[CornbreadFed]

Shouldn't be idolising them at all

its not that difficult to have a pu$$y , a pair of T!ts and a decent figure

Yet some men seem to repeatedly treat them as if they are they rarest things on earth

Very bizarre

He obsesses over them in every post haha.

 

[SargeMaximus]

Good stuff, but it's all been said before. I think the big one is laziness. We live in a time where I think the "mid-tier" guys are of lower quality than compared to mid tier guys in times past. This leads even more women to the guys who are in the higher tiers, and reaffirms the idea of scarcity to the lazy guys

I don’t have a scarcity mindset I just know I’m mostly priced out of the market. It is what it is

 

[Robert28]

I don’t have a scarcity mindset I just know I’m mostly priced out of the market. It is what it is

Yeah I don’t get how so many guys on here think you can snap your fingers and have an abundance of women. Most guys struggle to get ONE, how the hell you think theyre going to develop a rotation of women? In theory it works, but the execution of making it happen is the problem.

 

[CornbreadFed]

Yeah I don’t get how so many guys on here think you can snap your fingers and have an abundance of women. Most guys struggle to get ONE, how the hell you think theyre going to develop a rotation of women? In theory it works, but the execution of making it happen is the problem.

Most guys struggle to get THE ONE girl not a girl. If you raise your smv and put yourself out there to women, you will have a much higher success rate at getting a woman. Most guys don’t want to put in the work and want to take 1-5 shots at best.

 

[Robert28]

Most guys struggle to get THE ONE girl not a girl. If you raise your smv and put yourself out there to women, you will have a much higher success rate at getting a woman. Most guys don’t want to put in the work and want to take 1-5 shots at best.

If you get bitten by a snake 1-5 times are you gonna keep picking up snakes or are you going to say “fvck this!”

 

[CornbreadFed]

If you get bitten by a snake 1-5 times are you gonna keep picking up snakes or are you going to say “fvck this!”

A Scarcity mindset makes you more prone to snake bites than anything else. When you just focus on the one girl that gave you a slight IOI, you are investing all of your resources in to one basket that’s not even vetted properly. If this girl screws you over then yes it’s like getting bit by a venom @$$ snake lol.

vs

When you take shots at more than a few women, you do not give them any room to bite you because you are at a safer distance. A girl flaking on you won’t mean shvt because there’s another one to replace her. This will also give you the ability to vet out a girl for LTR potential because you have an active selection of women instead of LTRing the first girl that touches your weenie.

 

[MatureDJ]

A man needs to be tall , he needs to be witty , he needs to be confident , he needs to have money & be wealthy , he needs to have a car , he needs to be fit , he needs to be a pillar of the local community

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It used to be the case that an average woman would settle for 1 or 2 attributes knowing her own value wasn't really high enough to demand more

It's OVER for LessThan3AttributeCels.

 

[Ricky]

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This to me, sounds like they're longing to be wined and dined after giving out the goods for free to who knows how many dudes...

I think they are. The old model of wine, dine and 69 worked well for me.

i am a foodie so i didnt mind taking women to more interesting restaurants to expand their culinary knowledge

 

[Hamurabimbi]

Women are always throwing hints. A lot of guys don’t pick up on them. Of course, some women are just outright bold. But it’s the subtle hints tgst are often missed.

 

[Hamurabimbi]

Men struggle with womens expectations not their own

A man needs to be tall , he needs to be witty , he needs to be confident , he needs to have money & be wealthy , he needs to have a car , he needs to be fit , he needs to be a pillar of the local community

Nope. Just be handsome.

 

[corrector]

Correction: men idolize hot women under 30 who are fertile with 0 kids and 0 divorces.

No one idolizes a girl over 30. No one idolizes a single mother. No one idolizes a fat woman. No one idolizes an ugly women.

You never heard of dumpster diving?

 

[Hamurabimbi]

If a lot of guys don't pick up on them, care to give a couple examples?

I will tomorrow. Traveling for work. Just beat.

 

[corrector]

A Scarcity mindset makes you more prone to snake bites than anything else. When you just focus on the one girl that gave you a slight IOI, you are investing all of your resources in to one basket that’s not even vetted properly. If this girl screws you over then yes it’s like getting bit by a venom @$$ snake lol.

vs

When you take shots at more than a few women, you do not give them any room to bite you because you are at a safer distance. A girl flaking on you won’t mean shvt because there’s another one to replace her. This will also give you the ability to vet out a girl for LTR potential because you have an active selection of women instead of LTRing the first girl that touches your weenie.

Yeah, just go on Tinder and pick a better one out of the thousands of matches next time.

 

[BadBoy89]

Shouldn't be idolising them at all

its not that difficult to have a pu$$y , a pair of T!ts and a decent figure

Yet some men seem to repeatedly treat them as if they are they rarest things on earth

Very bizarre

Its not bizarre at all.

The problem isn’t women per se, it’s that men are brainwashed to idolize young hot women. When movies, music, tv, internet all worship young hot women, when athletes, movie stars, and rich powerful men all want to have sex with these women and be in a relationship with them and get them pregnant, its hard for layman on Sosuave to hear “hey, they are not important”.

Not saying “value” young hot fertile girls or that society or rich and famous are right, but when society values them, and it’s all around a man everyday, it’s hard not to get brainwashed.

 

[2rings]

That honesty startup technique outlined by George Castanza is almost a complete Guarantee who was ever within her realm

the first minutes let her ass know all your greatest faults and you will likely be invited into Yes-Land peppered with small lies

Go out of your way to not hide the most sensitive details about yourself while peppering in all kinds of minute lies

Readily available women are enjoyers of playful lies

Really stop for a moment and think what am I hiding from this women? Then just blurt it out to her.

the ultimate weeding out strategy is blunt honesty done right