Why I hate the word: discrimination

[Credos]

First the people who use it are:

- Feminists (which I obviously hate more than anything in the world)
- Foreign people (who I don't hate, unless they're profiting of my country OR vandalizing it)
- Homo's (Only the wierd ones bother me , the ones acting like the opposite sex)
- handicaps (which shouldn't be discriminated BUT sometimes there is not an option, though this in theory isen't even discrimination)
- etc (prolly loads of other tw*ts but those are the biggest groups)

These groups miss use the word so much. If you don't give a female a job, you will have to say it in a specific way because else you might be discriminating. You have to say her "Profile" doesn't fit the job. It might perfectly fit the job, but you aren't allowed to say it or your discriminating and can get a lawsuit on your head. So much for freedom of speech. This actually holds up for all groups.

Then you got the foreign group, who in my country, are 25% leeches. (read an article about it today on the newspaper) But if you should tell them they are leeches you're the bad guy :crazy:. I'm not saying all of em are, cause they aren't! The problem is when people point their finger at every foreign guy and insult them (which is racism).

Now it's been the racial bullsh*t that got them angry and now they're vandalizing alot. The funny thing is they gang up, then wreck alot of stuff. (which ends up in a vicious circle, vandalism -> racism -> more vandalism -> ...)

If you're not being friendly to a homo cause they bother you, you're discriminating. (If a homo says this to me, I really want to punch them in the face, luckely I have alwayse held my temper) The fact is, I don't like the person, not that he's gay, though it probebly helped me like him less.

The reason why I'm nagging about this is because it bothers me to no end, just wanted to know other people's opinion on the subject.

 

[Michele l'Arcangelo]

Yeah... me and my brothers like to joke around and be like, "It's awesome getting scholarships for being born from Asian parents."

Reverse racism is stupid. Equality... I don't want to be treated differently.

But guess what... there will always be discrimination and reverse-racism.

Live with it.

 

[CaptainJ]

I just want to clear one thing up to the users of sosuave. Many of you don't understand the definition of feminism and feminists.

Feminists believe in equal rights for men and women. So that means equal rights to get a job, or an education etc.

By this definetion, it would be safe to assume that most users of sosuave are feminists. Maybe we should start referring to those whining fat *****es who call men pigs and moan of being sexually harassed, as something else rather than feminists. Feminazi more like.

This is just so people don't get the wrong idea that Don Juans disagree with equal rights for men and women.

 

[Darth]

I just want to clear one thing up to the users of sosuave. Many of you don't understand the definition of feminism and feminists.

Feminists believe in equal rights for men and women.

Forced equality, regardless of ability or natural aptitude. Not only that, they want to break down "traditional" gender barriers by encouraging women to be engineers and etc. and encouraging men to be nurses and secretaries rather than letting their natural temperament dictate their behavior and work.

EDIT: I have no problem with the first feminism movement though, giving women the right to vote. It's the 2nd one that started in the 60's and really took off in the 70's/80's that has ruined everything.

 

[Luthor Rex]

I just want to clear one thing up to the users of sosuave. Many of you don't understand the definition of feminism and feminists.

Feminists believe in equal rights for men and women. So that means equal rights to get a job, or an education etc.

By this definetion, it would be safe to assume that most users of sosuave are feminists. Maybe we should start referring to those whining fat *****es who call men pigs and moan of being sexually harassed, as something else rather than feminists. Feminazi more like.

This is just so people don't get the wrong idea that Don Juans disagree with equal rights for men and women.

If feminists really believe in equal rights for men and women then feminists would push for laws allowing men to have a say weather or not the fetus he helped to create gets terminated or not.

So long as women have the unilateral right to an abortion, men and women will not have equal rights.

Equal rights don't make sense anyhow because of real differences between human beings. We don't give retards equal rights to the rest of us -- if a retard commits a crime we judge weather or not he was able to understand what he was doing. This makes a lot of sense but it's not "equal" by any stretch of the imagination. The same is true for children, because of their real differences they are not afforded equal rights.

The human rights granted to someone must line up with the biological reality of who they are, otherwise human rights will fail as a public policy. Women and men are not the same, therefore equal rights do not make sense.

 

[CaptainJ]

If feminists really believe in equal rights for men and women then feminists would push for laws allowing men to have a say weather or not the fetus he helped to create gets terminated or not.

So long as women have the unilateral right to an abortion, men and women will not have equal rights.

Equal rights don't make sense anyhow because of real differences between human beings. We don't give retards equal rights to the rest of us -- if a retard commits a crime we judge weather or not he was able to understand what he was doing. This makes a lot of sense but it's not "equal" by any stretch of the imagination. The same is true for children, because of their real differences they are not afforded equal rights.

The human rights granted to someone must line up with the biological reality of who they are, otherwise human rights will fail as a public policy. Women and men are not the same, therefore equal rights do not make sense.

You're comparing the rights of Women to retards and children? That's an interesting comparison to say the least. Women make up half of our society, they are not retards or children, and they deserve equal rights to men. Yes, men should get equal rights on more minor aspects of society such as your abortion example, but that is another matter. You can't just say "Women don't deserve equal rights to vote or get a job as men, since we don't get to say whether this baby gets aborted or not. If I can't have this baby aborted, women aren't allowed to vote".

Oh and Darth I'm talking about the basis of Feminism:
Read the dictionary definition of Feminism:
"the doctrine advocating social, political, and all other rights of women equal to those of men."
Who doesn't agree with this definition?
You say that Feminism tears down "traditional" gender barriers, by encouraging women to be engineers or men to be nurses? What's wrong with that? Let the man or woman decide what they want to do. Some women suit being mechanics, and some men nurses. But it's a tiny minority and not a big deal. I haven't heard of feminists coercing women into butch manly roles, so it can't be a problem.

However, you will get the Feminazi's who believe women deserve even more rights than men, attacking men for their actions all the time (AKA Sosuave's misinterpretation of feminist).

 

[ketostix]

You're comparing the rights of Women to retards and children? That's an interesting comparison to say the least. Women make up half of our society, they are not retards or children, and they deserve equal rights to men. Yes, men should get equal rights on more minor aspects of society such as your abortion example, but that is another matter.

First off you can't say that women are equal to men in all areas. You cannot say that women don't act like chilldren in matters of judging fairness, universal right and wrong etc, because they do. You say men having equal rights in "minor" aspects like abortion is a seperate issue from feminism but it absolutely is not. Feminist argue they should have special rights in regard to abortion because they are women and carry the child. That's no different than men saying they should have special rights to economic power because as men they defend and protect the nation, they are expected/required to earn more than a woman and support a woman and children etc.

There's nothing equitable about feminism. It's women retaining all their traditional benefits plus adding several more that men use to have. It's about women having it all and having all the leverage and men having no lverage or any advantage to balance things out.

Feminism isn't about equality in practice either. Females get preferential treatment in schools and colleges, preferential treatment in hiring, all at the expensive of men. There's nothing fair about feminism if you look at it realistically. Fvck feminism. The only thing worse then a female feminist is a male feminist.

 

[Levex]

The problem is not with the word itself, its when its used to push people own agendas, then it becomes a problem.

Perfect example : Al Sharpton.

That fvcker will take something thats completely irrelevant out of context, repackage and reword it,throw in words like "discrimination" and "justice", blame the white man, and then let the media fvck the issue into submission until it becomes a nationwide scandal.

And if you accuse him of doing all that, he'll call you a racist.

 

[Credos]

First off you can't say that women are equal to men in all areas. You cannot say that women don't act like chilldren in matters of judging fairness, universal right and wrong etc, because they do. You say men having equal rights in "minor" aspects like abortion is a seperate issue from feminism but it absolutely is not. Feminist argue they should have special rights in regard to abortion because they are women and carry the child. That's no different than men saying they should have special rights to economic power because as men they defend and protect the nation, they are expected/required to earn more than a woman and support a woman and children etc.

There's nothing equitable about feminism. It's women retaining all their traditional benefits plus adding several more that men use to have. It's about women having it all and having all the leverage and men having no lverage or any advantage to balance things out.

Its alwayse been about power, the females are angry they don't have it, before the retard age, whinning women got a beating. Now? We listen to it :crazy:.

I'm not justifing a beating, but listening to bullsh*t is for retards. Live with the fact that its our genetic pool that decided men will lead.

If women would have the power, the male part of the human race will be reduced to a minimum, think of it. Lets take a look at the spider, where the female is the dominate one. After the sex the female spider eats the male spider alive. Woman are more barbaric than men when it comes to power, it alwayse will be.

The way of the humans is like the wolfs, alpha males leads the pack, alpha female decides if the male is allowed to mate, thats how things are now, and how they should remain.

Feminism isn't about equality in practice either. Females get preferential treatment in schools and colleges, preferential treatment in hiring, all at the expensive of men. There's nothing fair about feminism if you look at it realistically.

Exactly, and there never will be anything fair about it

The only thing worse then a female feminist is a male feminist.

So true, how can anybody become so mental :crazy: I still can't understand that

 

[ketostix]

Its alwayse been about power, the females are angry they don't have it, before the retard age, whinning women got a beating. Now? We listen to it :crazy:.

I'm not justifing a beating, but listening to bullsh*t is for retards. Live with the fact that its our genetic pool that decided men will lead.

I don't believe that beating or mistreating women was ever really supported or prevalent in western culture or many other cultures. Even if you go far back in history the truth is women had all the rights and fairness they deserved. Even in colonial America there were wealthy women and heirs. The difference between then and now is it was a man's choice and decision in how much to give or share his wealth with a woman. This was an incentive for her to do her part and keep her on her toes. Now, women are just handed men's economic power mostly by government policies.

If women would have the power, the male part of the human race will be reduced to a minimum, think of it. Lets take a look at the spider, where the female is the dominate one. After the sex the female spider eats the male spider alive. Woman are more barbaric than men when it comes to power, it alwayse will be.

The way of the humans is like the wolfs, alpha males leads the pack, alpha female decides if the male is allowed to mate, thats how things are now, and how they should remain.

Yeah there would be zero equality and fairness for men if women ran everything. I agree that women get to decide which male mates. But there in lies the power they've always had. But to use your analogy even the beta wolfs can take matters into their own hands and are not being artificially handicapped or limited. Now men are being handicapped and actively prevented from exercising their natural abilities to keep things fair. In other words, feminism and affirmative action place an obstacle in the way for men to have economic leverage and advantage to even the playing field.

 

[CaptainJ]

First off you can't say that women are equal to men in all areas. You cannot say that women don't act like chilldren in matters of judging fairness, universal right and wrong etc, because they do. You say men having equal rights in "minor" aspects like abortion is a seperate issue from feminism but it absolutely is not. Feminist argue they should have special rights in regard to abortion because they are women and carry the child. That's no different than men saying they should have special rights to economic power because as men they defend and protect the nation, they are expected/required to earn more than a woman and support a woman and children etc.

There's nothing equitable about feminism. It's women retaining all their traditional benefits plus adding several more that men use to have. It's about women having it all and having all the leverage and men having no lverage or any advantage to balance things out.

Feminism isn't about equality in practice either. Females get preferential treatment in schools and colleges, preferential treatment in hiring, all at the expensive of men. There's nothing fair about feminism if you look at it realistically. Fvck feminism. The only thing worse then a female feminist is a male feminist.

Women may act like children in matters of fairness, universal laws etc. But then so do men. You will always get complete idiots trying to govern and be in positions of power. Acting like "children" is not confined to just women, all humans may do it.

The feminists you are talking about when you say they want special and extra rights, are NOT Feminists. Read the definition of Feminism: Men and Women equal in all aspects of society. Special and extra rights does not mean equality, therefore it is not Feminism.

You mention women get preferential treatment in jobs and schools, even though you provide no evidence to support this claim, and it's a very untrue statement, considering if it were true, this would not be due to Feminism. Read again the definition: EQUAL RIGHTS. I may have to repeat myself many times, that Feminism is not about Women over men, or vice versa.

You say fvck Feminism, yet do you acknowledge you are saying you disagree with Women having equal (NOT special) rights as men? Do you think Women should not have the vote, or similar opportunity in education and career? You think that we should totally disregard a woman's intelligence or ability and we should be prejudiced against them because they are women?

Women deserve to have equal opportunity and rights to men. Now that does not necessarily mean they will make thorough use of these rights, but the option is still there. Just because someone is women, does not mean they cannot be the head of a business empire, the leader of a country, etc. It just means it is less likely, as women usually fill the more dominant roles. AND don't get me wrong, this is good. I would also hate to have a world lead by butch domineering lesbians. But if you do not give women equal opportunity as men, it is effectively stifling a huge percentage of possible genius/talent/wisdom/creativity etc. I would rather a woman who is very clever, get more rights than a man who is an incompetant fool, in order to rise up in the social and career world. And then I would also rather a man who is a genius, get more rights than a butch whining Feminazi, to rise up in the social world.

There is no reason not to give Women equal opportunity and rights as men. This way we are not stifling a large part of society and possible talent.