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Why don't I ever get IOIs?

BlahUgh

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I don't get it. Chicks just seem to totally ignore me. I get no eye contacts, no IOIs, nothing. Like when I was at a small(maybe 8 ppl) party one of my friends was talking to this girl so I go to introduce myself and ask her where shes from, she shakes my hand answers and goes and ignores me. I also notice that when I walk up to a group of people sometimes a girl will look at me and then quickly look away. I don't know if its my looks or what. I got a 6.8 on FaceTheJury and while that may seem bad I'm not sure since the top guys on there get get low 8s. It seems that even ugly girls don't seem to like me and that doesnt make any fvckign sense since I don't really consider myself ugly. I know I'm at least average, but I get treated like a 1.
 

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Originally posted by BlahUgh
I don't get it. Chicks just seem to totally ignore me. I get no eye contacts, no IOIs, nothing. Like when I was at a small(maybe 8 ppl) party one of my friends was talking to this girl so I go to introduce myself and ask her where shes from, she shakes my hand answers and goes and ignores me. I also notice that when I walk up to a group of people sometimes a girl will look at me and then quickly look away. I don't know if its my looks or what. I got a 6.8 on FaceTheJury and while that may seem bad I'm not sure since the top guys on there get get low 8s. It seems that even ugly girls don't seem to like me and that doesnt make any fvckign sense since I don't really consider myself ugly. I know I'm at least average, but I get treated like a 1.
take a basketball to a basketball court.
now sit on the ground.
put the basketball next to you.

sit for an hour.

tell me how many times the basketball goes through the hoop.

it SHOULD be 0 times.

if you want the basketball to go through the hoop, YOU need to do something about it.

same goes for girls.

you start a conversation, you want her to continue it? get with the program.
 

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who knows, maybe you're just coming off with bad body language. When chatting or introducing yourself to others remember to smile, have good posture and be confident, speak clearly as well.
 

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Re: Re: Why don't I ever get IOIs?

Originally posted by quest
take a basketball to a basketball court.
now sit on the ground.
put the basketball next to you.

sit for an hour.

tell me how many times the basketball goes through the hoop.

it SHOULD be 0 times.

if you want the basketball to go through the hoop, YOU need to do something about it.

same goes for girls.

you start a conversation, you want her to continue it? get with the program.
tats a cool post.:up:
 

Francisco d'Anconia

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I'll add that he needs to be more engaging than just asking where someone if from. Too cliché, too boring.
 

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Smile. This is so important. Smiling conveys confidence to the max.

If you are walking up to a chick with a sour face, introing and asking boring questions you won't get IOI's.

If you walk up to the same chick with a smile on your face, don't intro yourself, and bust her balls you WILL GET IOI's

The PUA is the exception to the rule.

Sounds like you've got a ton of learning to do.
 

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I would say your doing something wrong with body language or personality and asking boring predictable questions too. Don't worry though, I have the same problem...that is thinking of different and unique things to say. I'm still not sure exactly how to "bust her Balls" when you she just the average girl in average clothing.

But anyways, I would work on the body language and conversation and make sure your dressed to impress!


P.s. Why do you really on internet rating sites to determine how you look? You should just be confident in yourself
 

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sounds like you are not feeling confident in yourself about the way you look.

Is your posture ok? are you generally in a good mood, feeling happy.. if you're not in a good mood people notice and you don't look attractive..

do you notice the difference if you psyche yourself up in a mirror?? it doesn't last forever but if you feel good inside you can walk into a room and just feel like everything is fine, comfortable etc.. and people notice that if you're the typical shy guy who isn't sociable at parties or looks like he doesn't want to be there then girls notice that too, they wanna be with someone who is happy..

last thing, if you make eye contact with a girl, can you hold it, AND look comfortable while you hold it?? If you start to look embarrased or look away then you're screwed.. Make sure you can keep eye contact with women for at least 5 seconds, just practice wherever you are,
 

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Re: Re: Why don't I ever get IOIs?

Originally posted by quest
YOU need to do something about it.
quest is on the point here.

There can be 1000 and 1 reasons you are experiencing this. Basically, when you feel insecure yourself approaching a girl, the girl will start feeling insecure as well.

Try to skip the fluff talk at the very beginning and be more honest what will make you appear more congruent. Say what is really in your mind. Tell her she looks nice, she wears nice clothes, she has a beautiful smile or another HONEST reason you want to talk to her.

Be nice to her and look her deep in the eyes. A smile from time to time could also be good advise here. :(
 

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You probably get IOI's and just don't notice it.

I have friends that are natural DJs, and every once in awhile one of them will say, "dude, she was digging you"

And I'll've not noticed at all. I just don't notice a lot of the subtle IOIs. And most of the obvious ones, too. So really, you should just work on SEEING the IOIs that are out there.

Yea, some girls will be *****es, but most will be cordial at the very least. Don't let rare occasions like what happened at that small party get you down.

How about, from now on, if something looks like it MIGHT be an IOI, take it as if it is one and flirt with her. It should get you somewhere.
 

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cuz ur prolly a dweeb. Hang out with the cool people dress like they dress talk like they talk.
 
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