"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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Why don't I care????

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Do you know anything about the nature of women? the only thing they know is to cheat on their boyfriends, real LTRs can easily turn out to be bad. Women cheats on their boyfriends. Only a few, very very few women are good women. LTR doesn't have any mystery and excitements and are only a waste of time in high school. Please don't use these words to me because I am a 9th grader. I noe you have more experiences than me, but if you wanna argue, argue the right way and tell me what I'm saying is incorrect. The point of you posting on is to teach us the right way, if you wanna tell me that i noe nothing about LTR, explain it to us, don't put a 9th grader down like that!
If you find what i'm saying incorrect, correct me then and teach me the right way. all of what you posted on this thread are useless sentences that puts me down but u never tought us anything about LTR (benefits, pros and cons)

i am only putting my own opinion, i'm here to learn.
Please, for the love of god, stop trying to tell people about something you OBVIOUSLY KNOW NOTHING ABOUT. The only thing women know how to do is cheat on their bfs? LTS doesnt have any excitement? Real LTR's can turn out to be bad? Only a few, very very few women are good women. Where do you come up with this sh*t? And why do you believe it?

I am trying to tell you you're incorrect, but instead you try and challenge me like you actually have some knowledge in this area..

You are entilted to an opinion yes, but don't sit here and try to feed other people completely wrong bullsh*t that are actually trying to learn something real.. not whatever crazy speculations you have come up with on the female race. You have a lot of learning to do.
 

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I dont understand why but all of my friends and peers surrounding me believe that having a gf is everything. My friends earlier this week were acting like something was wrong with me because I never have long relationships. Dont get me wrong, i do go out but i never really go out with the same girl again. Does not needing a girl make me weird or something? And if it helps im a softmore.
i'm a junior.
up until now, i thought the same way you did, and girls even started to ask me if i was gay.

now, I think i actually want a ltr. at least something that'll last a couple of months.

but do what you want.
 

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splinterkb said:
Please, for the love of god, stop trying to tell people about something you OBVIOUSLY KNOW NOTHING ABOUT. The only thing women know how to do is cheat on their bfs? LTS doesnt have any excitement? Real LTR's can turn out to be bad? Only a few, very very few women are good women. Where do you come up with this sh*t? And why do you believe it?

I am trying to tell you you're incorrect, but instead you try and challenge me like you actually have some knowledge in this area..

You are entilted to an opinion yes, but don't sit here and try to feed other people completely wrong bullsh*t that are actually trying to learn something real.. not whatever crazy speculations you have come up with on the female race. You have a lot of learning to do.
http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=83349
maybe i misunderstood what is being told by this thread, but based on the reaction of that artical, I am quite convinced
 
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lol splinter you have the same mentality as me i think,
ADJ not all LTR'S turn bad ive been in one for 6 months, which for high school is an LTR in the grown up world it isnt one. An LTR for a 30 year old would be along the lines of 10 year or summut. And my gf would never cheat on me, she loves me and I dont get bored at all. Maybe its your opinion that you would get bored in an LTR in high school and you would rather be a player cause you dont see the point of LTR'S in highschool. But i do and most people do, if i get something out of my LTR dont tell me its pointless and all they do is cheat on you. If you're a DJ a girl will not cheat on you. You have a lot to learn about life and are obviously naive about life experiences. If you're going to post, dont post about things what you have no experience in and have just read about and can relate to or you will not be able to interpret the situation properly. You may have the right mentality but if you dont implement these ideas theres no point having the mentality. Just keep on improving and gaining experience and you will learn. You dont necessarily need the DJ bible to become a DJ you just need good initiative and the perseverance to keep battling through rejection to improve and you will get there
 

“The 22 Psychological Triggers That Make Women Chase You… Starting Tonight”

Forget the cash, the cars, and the chiseled jawlines. Female desire operates on a completely different frequency. Primal. Subconscious. Triggers that bypass her logic and hit her on a gut level. Most guys are totally blind to them.

I know because I was one of them. The overthinking. The paralysis. The silent drive home kicking yourself for freezing up. Watching average guys walk away with the girl while you stood there stuck in your own head.

Then I decoded the psychology behind what actually makes women tick. 22 hard rules.  Subtle behavioral shifts that rewired my entire reality. The anxiety evaporated. Women started leaning in. Investing. Chasing.

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lol antidonjuan you cannot judge unless you have experienced an LTR you are living by the rules, so what if some guy on the internet says you shouldnt have an LTR. If you have not EXPERIENCED one you cannot judge whether you should or shouldn't have one GET EXPERIENCE!!!!
 

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splinter, if you wanna argue, back up ur point, you are such a terrible advisor with no proves, I suggest you re-read all the stuff in here including the bible cuz the more opioniated you are, the more arrogant you become. no offense here, i gave up opinion with a source backing it back without attacking you. However, you had no sources of your belief and most of ur opinions are personal attacks. Be a real men and admit what you did wrong, I am restating what the real DJs out there talking about LTR, are you saying that THEY KNOW nothing about LTR? You are such a joke Splinter, I have never seen an adult with this poor debating and convincing skills. I suggest you reorganize ur thoughts before you post any of the stuff here. You have not been a good help here. For the Love of God, I've got u cornered again
 

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playa99 said:
lol antidonjuan you cannot judge unless you have experienced an LTR you are living by the rules, so what if some guy on the internet says you shouldnt have an LTR. If you have not EXPERIENCED one you cannot judge whether you should or shouldn't have one GET EXPERIENCE!!!!
Let me say this again, I am not saying that LTR is completely useless, I said: if you find it interesting about LTR and you get happiness from it, I won't try to do anything about it. Note, I posted my own OPINION of what I believe and backed it up with a reasonable source.

Let's say you got a girlfriend in grade 9 and u plan to have a long term relationship with her, how long do you think you can last? If you are skilled, you probably will last until grade 12 but it will only end because you two are heading into university. I know a few, only a few of people dating in high school who gets married years later. Getting a LTR is not reasonable in HIGH SCHOOl. You definately can become a player. Having a LTR will only waste your own time in high school. Again, if you find a LTR enjoyable and will get hapiness from it, I don't stop you. But from the overall trends of LTR in high school and my observations of these people, i strongly disagree with LTR.

Yes, you are absolutely right, I have no EXPERIENCE of having a girlfriend in a long run. But you think I know nothing about LTR if i didn't have one, right? Let me ask you: do you think death is a bad thing? You know it's bad but you havn't experienced it yet! Dude! Go get some common sense about this world.

Sure, you can get some experiences and good things abou LTR in high school, but 50 years later you look back, don't you find that pointless because what you get is short term happiness?


Lastly, in my opinion, you shall only seek LTRs in high school only if you want to marry that person
 

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splinter, if you wanna argue, back up ur point, you are such a terrible advisor with no proves, I suggest you re-read all the stuff in here including the bible cuz the more opioniated you are, the more arrogant you become. no offense here, i gave up opinion with a source backing it back without attacking you. However, you had no sources of your belief and most of ur opinions are personal attacks. Be a real men and admit what you did wrong, I am restating what the real DJs out there talking about LTR, are you saying that THEY KNOW nothing about LTR? You are such a joke Splinter, I have never seen an adult with this poor debating and convincing skills. I suggest you reorganize ur thoughts before you post any of the stuff here. You have not been a good help here. For the Love of God, I've got u cornered again
Once again..My beliefs, opinions, and points come from FIRST HAND EXPERIENCE.. you're trying to argue with someone that has actually tried it.. you haven't had a LTR.. Please don't try to argue with me about LTRs if you're also going to post new forum topics asking about them.. it just further reinforces that you have absolutely no idea what a true LTR is and what you can get out of one.

Also, please don't try and act like you know better than me because you came up with some f*cked up speculations.. how much do you really think you can learn just by watching someone in a LTR?
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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splinterkb said:
Once again..My beliefs, opinions, and points come from FIRST HAND EXPERIENCE.. you're trying to argue with someone that has actually tried it.. you haven't had a LTR.. Please don't try to argue with me about LTRs if you're also going to post new forum topics asking about them.. it just further reinforces that you have absolutely no idea what a true LTR is and what you can get out of one.

Also, please don't try and act like you know better than me because you came up with some f*cked up speculations.. how much do you really think you can learn just by watching someone in a LTR?


hahahaha! i guess you felt defeated, i guess you are desperate now by attacking me directly. once again, you have no prof backing up, ok, i dont have an idea of LTR, why dont u tell me what i've said wrong? Oh please, i have my back up resources from the speculations of real djs. i never said i knew better than u, you obviously are better than me but you have to prove it to me. my speculations might me false but you have to give a reason for it.

Yes, maybe i am wrong(which means the most experienced DJs are wrong too), but can you give me an indepth explanations of what i said was wrong? i wanna learn and i wanna know what might be wrong with what i said, i have a lot to learn. but if you don't tell me what i said was wrong but just attacking me personally, it really seems like you are just a newbie-attacker instead of trying to teach us some legit-stuff about high school LTRs.

i have a lot of respect for you and i would ask for an explanation of why my speculation is wrong. just by saying: you are wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong and never give any explanations about it is absolutely rediculous. i understand the fact that you are trying to convince others that u know better than me(because i'm young) but the way u represent ur statement is very imature. sorry if u feel offended, i would like you to stop arguing and stop making yourself look bad and post some real stuff about LTR.


one more thing: i learn by reading http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthr...threadid=56293
attack that true DJ instead of me and give some real explanations instead of stepping down a newbie like what you did.
 

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You're on a higher mental plane than they currently are.

You serve your needs.

They serve society's by buying into the needing a girlfriend mentality and spreading it to as many others as they can so that they can feel comfortable in their own skin.

Your path is the correct path when it comes to attaining true happiness.

Theirs is an illusion not of their making but embraced by them regardless because they cannot think for themselves.
 

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Kontroller, I completely agree with your words with my heart, but not having a girlfriend and maintaining popularity in high school is so hard. I am currently establishing the same DJ mindset the same as Joker's of finding true happiness by not buying into the society.

However, there are some AFCs out there in high school and colleges talk s**t about some people not having a girlfriend, I know it is very important to ignore these bullsh*t comments from friends in order to become a real Don Juan but this is a very difficult task. There seem to be a close connection of gaining popularity and having a girlfriend, I've read many posts about killing your inner desperation and obtaining a DJ mindset but the society seems to be so strong and pursuasive to mislead you into a wrong direction. Sometimes, you know what is right and what is wrong but you just can't resist the power of our society;

so my question is: when someone ask you that you should get a girlfriend or something, how do you prepare for that question mentally and how do you respond to that question without abusing them?
 

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"when someone ask you that you should get a girlfriend or something, how do you prepare for that question mentally and how do you respond to that question without abusing them?"

Well I think if you get a good group of friends and I'm not talking those shallow type of friends that most people get these days this issue shouldn't even come up as good friends respect you enough not to ask prying questions like this.

At least they don't regularly anyway. I mean I'm sure a good friend will ask you the question at least once or talk to you about stuff like this to get a general idea of you as a person but what I'm getting at is a good friend won't constantly pry into your personal life and ask you the same question over and over again once you've already answered the question once.

So barring surrounding yourself with good friends like this the only way you can politely reply ie not abuse those that are abusing you with their prying personal questions is to say in a calm tone that its really none of their business.

You see Anti Don Juan they may get offended no matter what response you give no matter how politely as people these days are f'n over hyper morons about every little thing not falling in line with their peer pressure influenced beliefs about how they should act and be in society.

As for how you mentally prepare for questions like this from random people just do what I said if possible and find friends that are cool and accept you for you without putting excess pressure on you as well work continuing to believe that other people's opinion of you does not matter and then when someone from the outside questions you like this you will have the support and strength of remembering that your friends accept you for who you are and your own inner voice and confidence not caring what the person thinks of your answer.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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antidonjuan said:
hahahaha! i guess you felt defeated, i guess you are desperate now by attacking me directly. once again, you have no prof backing up, ok, i dont have an idea of LTR, why dont u tell me what i've said wrong? Oh please, i have my back up resources from the speculations of real djs. i never said i knew better than u, you obviously are better than me but you have to prove it to me. my speculations might me false but you have to give a reason for it.

Yes, maybe i am wrong(which means the most experienced DJs are wrong too), but can you give me an indepth explanations of what i said was wrong? i wanna learn and i wanna know what might be wrong with what i said, i have a lot to learn. but if you don't tell me what i said was wrong but just attacking me personally, it really seems like you are just a newbie-attacker instead of trying to teach us some legit-stuff about high school LTRs.

i have a lot of respect for you and i would ask for an explanation of why my speculation is wrong. just by saying: you are wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong and never give any explanations about it is absolutely rediculous. i understand the fact that you are trying to convince others that u know better than me(because i'm young) but the way u represent ur statement is very imature. sorry if u feel offended, i would like you to stop arguing and stop making yourself look bad and post some real stuff about LTR.


one more thing: i learn by reading http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthr...threadid=56293
attack that true DJ instead of me and give some real explanations instead of stepping down a newbie like what you did.
I am going to keep this short because I am sick of wasting time argueing. While he may have a point that it will come to and end, in my opinion anything where you learn something you didn't know isn't a waste. A LTR will benefit you by teaching you about commitment, sexual experience, A LOT about the female race in general that you can't learn just by reading.. just to name a few. It will also up your value, because all the other girls will see you walking around with your gf.. and show them that you have something to offer. It will also help you know what to expect and give you experience in your future LTR's.

Noone plans to have an LTR with a girl.. if you like her that much then you're not just gonna be like "I like you a lot but I wasn't planning on a long term relationship so I'm gonna have to break up with you."
 

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KontrollerX said:
"when someone ask you that you should get a girlfriend or something, how do you prepare for that question mentally and how do you respond to that question without abusing them?"

Well I think if you get a good group of friends and I'm not talking those shallow type of friends that most people get these days this issue shouldn't even come up as good friends respect you enough not to ask prying questions like this.

At least they don't regularly anyway. I mean I'm sure a good friend will ask you the question at least once or talk to you about stuff like this to get a general idea of you as a person but what I'm getting at is a good friend won't constantly pry into your personal life and ask you the same question over and over again once you've already answered the question once.

So barring surrounding yourself with good friends like this the only way you can politely reply ie not abuse those that are abusing you with their prying personal questions is to say in a calm tone that its really none of their business.

You see Anti Don Juan they may get offended no matter what response you give no matter how politely as people these days are f'n over hyper morons about every little thing not falling in line with their peer pressure influenced beliefs about how they should act and be in society.

As for how you mentally prepare for questions like this from random people just do what I said if possible and find friends that are cool and accept you for you without putting excess pressure on you as well work continuing to believe that other people's opinion of you does not matter and then when someone from the outside questions you like this you will have the support and strength of remembering that your friends accept you for who you are and your own inner voice and confidence not caring what the person thinks of your answer.


Thank you for your indepth analysis Kontroller.

In high school these days, it always seem like getting a girlfriend makes you more superior than others and make others go: oh my god, you got a girlfriend? They always gave an impression on me that getting a girlfriend is a great social prof and only AFCs get no girlfriends. Your reply makes my mind clearer, you see, i still have an impression of: girlfriend=popularity huge gain. In fact, I think it is true that having a girlfriend IS a popularity gain but it is not right to SEEK for one for your popularity. However, it is a mental hit when some of your close friend tells you that you should get a girlfriend.

As of mental toughness, it is said very easy than to be really done, I guess I'd have to stay extremly mentally strong and healthy to be a great men.
 

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it's all garbage social status guys.

"He has an Ipod, so I want one too!!"

"He has a girlfriend, so I want one too!!"

"He drives a BMW?! He must be really cool!!"

"He has a girlfriend?! He must be really cool!!"

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Will having a girlfriend make you happy? I don't know the answer to that! Will it? If it will, then work towards having one.

Are you happier being single? That's fine too.

The only issue arises when you want something you don't have. If you're happy being single, then hey, great.

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I haven't had a 'girlfriend' in almost a year now, but I have a modest list of girls that I can go on a 'date' with at any time, or take wherever I want. At least until I'm 25-30, I don't want to have a girlfriend. Teen years and early twenties is the time of your life that you're supposed to experience as many things as you can, and having a 'girlfriend' acts as a social anchor.

No thanks!

good luck
 
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