"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Why does having to approach women have to be so complicated?

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This is so gay.

Just go up and talk to her. If she has aproblem with that, then that's her problem.

You can't analyze each person's reaction it's really not worth it. Stop taking it so seriously, it's all a joke..

Yeah she could ignore you, run away screaming, who knows.

But ask yourself what did you really do wrong? Say hi? Exactly that's nothing, your being gay just talk to whoever you feel like talking to when you feel like talking to them.

They have the right to ignore you and you got the right to not give a sh!t if they do.
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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*ahem* From the other thread.
I didn't say I was going to "leave" that's just how you interpreted it, buddy.
 

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This is so gay.

Just go up and talk to her. If she has aproblem with that, then that's her problem.

You can't analyze each person's reaction it's really not worth it. Stop taking it so seriously, it's all a joke..

Yeah she could ignore you, run away screaming, who knows.

But ask yourself what did you really do wrong? Say hi? Exactly that's nothing, your being gay just talk to whoever you feel like talking to when you feel like talking to them.

They have the right to ignore you and you got the right to not give a sh!t if they do.
I'm not really worried about her having a problem with it, I'm just not sure what to open with. Sure I can go "hi", but that isn't going go anywhere(I know that from experience). Secondly, there just doesn't seem to be any good places to approach girls during High School. In the morning, I go to this computer class at another school, then I take a bus back to my school, and get to lunch. During lunch, girls are pretty much busy eating, and talking to their friends, and most likely the only way you could approach a girl, is to go up to her table. In Math, there are no interesting girls, next class, there are a couple good looking girls, but I hardly get a chance to talk with them, next class, no interesting girls. Seems like the only good times to approach girls for me is either during Marching Band Practice(Lot of hot girls in band), or on Friday night football games(I'm in the band, so I get to go free).
 

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"Buddy", you said you wern't posting unless you had something to contribute. This isn't contribution, this is whining. You're a troll.
 

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"Buddy", you said you wern't posting unless you had something to contribute. This isn't contribution, this is whining. You're a troll.
Well guess what? I changed my mind. I love how you say "troll" as if just because you say it makes it true. Hell, maybe if you actually CONTRIBUTED something to my topic, by giving me advice, I would have something to contribute. I already told you guys a couple times that there's hardly anywhere to approach chicks during school hours. Let's see...

Programming class - Only 2 chicks in the class, and I'm not interested in either of them.

Lunch - Girls are too busy eating, and talking to their friends.

Math - No girls in this class that I would be interested in.

Chemistry - Few girls that I'm interested in this class, and I suppose I COULD talk to them, after we're done doing our work, or something. There's also an AMOG in this class.

English - Same girls as in the Math class.

So with that, I probably won't be approaching any girls until Band Practice on Wednesday, so I guess that's when you guys can expect me to actually contribute something. Course' there are these 2 chicks from band I'm interested in that ride my bus, so maybe I'll get the balls to approach them there. The only thing I'm really scared of, is that they usually sit near a group of friends.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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I like when Viper/MrCon posts. He always brings out people to reply, so if I'm scared to ask something, he probably has asked it.


and he always reminds me that there's always someone that's in the same boat as me!
 

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Well guess what? I changed my mind. I love how you say "troll" as if just because you say it makes it true. Hell, maybe if you actually CONTRIBUTED something to my topic, by giving me advice, I would have something to contribute. I already told you guys a couple times that there's hardly anywhere to approach chicks during school hours. Let's see...

Programming class - Only 2 chicks in the class, and I'm not interested in either of them.

Lunch - Girls are too busy eating, and talking to their friends.

Math - No girls in this class that I would be interested in.

Chemistry - Few girls that I'm interested in this class, and I suppose I COULD talk to them, after we're done doing our work, or something. There's also an AMOG in this class.

English - Same girls as in the Math class.

So with that, I probably won't be approaching any girls until Band Practice on Wednesday, so I guess that's when you guys can expect me to actually contribute something. Course' there are these 2 chicks from band I'm interested in that ride my bus, so maybe I'll get the balls to approach them there. The only thing I'm really scared of, is that they usually sit near a group of friends.
And all I heard were excuses and crying.......

Girls don't like you bud. Forget it.

And you trolling makes you a troll. Not me saying so.
 

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And all I heard were excuses and crying.......

Girls don't like you bud. Forget it.

And you trolling makes you a troll. Not me saying so.
What was that? Oh, sorry, I don't listen to assh*les. First of all, if you call that whining, you seriously need to look up the term in the dictionary. Secondly, girls don't like me? Why that's not what your mother was saying in bed last night. And lastly, I don't troll. Wait, no, I still have one more thing to say, welcome to the ignore list for being an assh*le who doesn't know what he's talking about.
 

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:crackup: Id've beem offended like that but the "I don't listen to as*holes" comment made me laugh out loud. I think I used it a couple of times when I was 12 or so.

Toys really are out the pram now arn't they? I have given you advice in the past...but you just whine alot and don't try it. Hence why I feel you're a troll (a bad one, but a troll all the same).

You never had a strong male role model right? Either that or your dad whoops your arse ritually.
 

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Well, since you guys will call it "whining" if I don't directly ask a question, I'll ask for the advice I've been asking for for my past 3 post. Where can I approach girls in school, with my schedule? During lunch, girls are to busy eating, and talking to their friends, and I don't have many interesting girls in my classes. I could approach girls on the bus, but the particular girl I'm after, usually doesn't get on until after I do. I don't know, it would just feel weird getting out of my seat, and moving to sit down in her seat. She also sits by a lot of her friends.
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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Honestly? I don't think you should be approaching girls.

You need to sort your attitude out.
 

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Honestly? I don't think you should be approaching girls.

You need to sort your attitude out.
*sighs* Yep. I know. Been telling him this for at least a month now.

Work on your inner game first. Forget about girls for a bit.

It really does feel like he either disregards advice, or just plain forgets it sometimes.

Anyway... Mike, man, you're still doing it. You've got to stop responding to the people who are saying crap about you. Just ignore them for God's sake. You'll never improve until your attitude changes.
 

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I read alittle of your post, and just alittle bit of the other ones people posted..but I noticed something you said that really stuck out to me, two things actually.

One, you said you that were about to give up being social and talking to chicks all together. Now I can swear to you, this morning I was thinking the exact same thing. I went to school today, and had a great day. I realized, if you have fun, people around you will have fun also. If you think negative about it, it will always go negative. Always, have you ever been in a mood where you were just mad for no reason when people would talk to you (normal teenager thing) or try to make you feel better, and you just felt pissed off for no reason, yet you wish you could just stop being a ****.

I'm sure you've been there a few times, everybody has. What i'm saying is man, don't take things so seriously. It's really no big deal approaching a woman, people blow **** out of proportion. For me, alot of times I approach chicks because if nobody's around, I don't wanna walk alone, I want to have a conversation going. I wanna chance to practice game, and if the chick appeals to me, i'll go after her. Just have fun with it man, that's the best advice I can give. When you don't enjoy going to school or being out period, you won't go out. You'll become anti-social, at a point I can honestly say I was there man, and I was NEVER like that. To be honest man, I looked at somebody who was really good with people. To be honest, it was my mom. She opens people up so fast, and makes friends INSTANTLY..she never judges anybody, just real fun to be around. And I applied that to my game, works like a charm.

And about no girls in your class, I can relate big time to that. I can think of one girl in one of my math classes that I talk to all day. But she's pretty boring, so it's not even that great man. I approach in the hall alot, even if it's for simple conversation. Like today, I had a great day approaching. One of my favorites, this chick was going up the stairs, and I ran up and passed her, and bumped into her on purpose. We than had a big competition to get to the top of the steps, it went amazing. We were walking down the hall, I was saying she had to pay me for her loosing, she just laughed. I kept a staight face, and said "I'm serious, pay me" she busted up laughing, and than had to try to deny me "yeah, ok" I didn't buy it. **** went great.

My bad for being so long, to review, be easy man. Don't overthink all these things, it's really nothing. You know you can approach the chick, just have fun with it.
 

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I still don't see a change.
Thats what im sayin. Hes STILL EXACTLY the same. Some people never change.
 

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*sighs* Yep. I know. Been telling him this for at least a month now.

Work on your inner game first. Forget about girls for a bit.

It really does feel like he either disregards advice, or just plain forgets it sometimes.

Anyway... Mike, man, you're still doing it. You've got to stop responding to the people who are saying crap about you. Just ignore them for God's sake. You'll never improve until your attitude changes.
I don't need to work on my inner game man. My inner game is fine. Unlike most AFC's here I had hobbies even BEFORE I first set foot on this site. There's really nothing I can do to improve my confidence, but to keep telling myself "That I'm the great chance", and to start caring less about getting rejected. Besides, I didn't come here to work on my inner game, f*ck that, I came here because I want advice on how to get laid. Sure my inner game use to not be so great, but it's improved a lot lately. I know that if a chick rejects me, that there are still billions of other girls out there, and it's not really a big deal.

And about no girls in your class, I can relate big time to that. I can think of one girl in one of my math classes that I talk to all day. But she's pretty boring, so it's not even that great man. I approach in the hall alot, even if it's for simple conversation. Like today, I had a great day approaching. One of my favorites, this chick was going up the stairs, and I ran up and passed her, and bumped into her on purpose. We than had a big competition to get to the top of the steps, it went amazing. We were walking down the hall, I was saying she had to pay me for her loosing, she just laughed. I kept a staight face, and said "I'm serious, pay me" she busted up laughing, and than had to try to deny me "yeah, ok" I didn't buy it. **** went great.
Chicks are too freaking busy getting to their next class, to talk to them in the halls.
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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MrConfidence said:
I don't need to work on my inner game man. My inner game is fine. Unlike most AFC's here I had hobbies even BEFORE I first set foot on this site. There's really nothing I can do to improve my confidence, but to keep telling myself "That I'm the great chance", and to start caring less about getting rejected. Besides, I didn't come here to work on my inner game, f*ck that, I came here because I want advice on how to get laid. Sure my inner game use to not be so great, but it's improved a lot lately. I know that if a chick rejects me, that there are still billions of other girls out there, and it's not really a big deal.
Well, there's always attitude. Many, many people have said it. You have an attitude problem that needs to be addressed. Take that as you may, but I think it's a suggestion.
 

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Viper u say your in the band and you pride yourself on that, after using the initial approach ask them if they play music if they say no just say something like they looked like a chick u played music with.. After that just say well what do you do in your spare time, she will saying bull**** lke tv, relax, nothing then tease her something, then eject yourself making an excuse and get no.

Another thing you need to realise and believe is that when they reject you they are basing you just off the approach, THEY DONT KNOW YOU, YOU MIGHT BE THE BEST MOFUKAA THERE IS THEY DONT KNOW THAT TTHUS DONT GIVE A **** THEY REJECTED THE GOODS.
 

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a good comfortable life>girls.
think about that one.
i still to this day[i've been gaming for like 2 years now] rarely do cold approaches. i just go with the flow n say i to the hoes that my boys know.
that rhymes. but jsut chill, relax, dont stress getting good all at once.
and man, to improve you have to step OUTSIDE your safety zone, your comfort zone so to speak. You're barrier has gotten you thsi far..and how far is that? obviously its not working the way you want it to.
bend it, enjoy yourself.

I personally never set out to cold approach. all that does is build up your nervousness. I just spit game when i feel the mood, try that.
 
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