"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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Why does everybody think I am in a frat?

The Comeback Kid

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Over the past few weeks (since winter break), I've picked up on something people have been asking me. At first, I thought it was just a normal question. However, a few people from different social circles - a guy I get along with on my floor, one of my new friends, and the best friend of the girl I like for example, have asked me the same question, and I honestly do not know what I am doing to make them ask it:

'TCK, are you in a frat?" When someone asks this, usually going through my mind is: :crackup: :crackup: :confused: :confused:

No, I am not in a Fraternity here at college. Only about 10% of the student body here even lives Greek, but the frat houses do hold most of the big parties.

What is on my mind though is why people would think I am in a frat. I don't think many of my traits match up to those of a frat guy:
- I don't want anymore of this "high school bs" at college. I don't understand cliques - I try to get along with everyone I meet. In my mind, frats = cliques.
- The whole frat lifestyle at my school is undesirable IMO. You get hazed, you have to do things against your will, there's a political system in every frat, and you have to QUALIFY to even be invited to join the frat.
- I could never work at a frat party. I'd let everybody in and I'd serve drinks to whoever's cup I see first, regardless of gender. The only two times I'd not let someone in is if they're causing fights with everyone, or if the house is so crowded it becomes a dangerous hazard.
- I don't drink nearly enough to do something regrettable. I drink in moderation...I want to have a good time, but not because I am drunk.
-I am in no way a womanizer. I don't force myself on women at all. I fact, I am closer to being too shy than too aggressive. I am not really experienced either. I try to have normal, everyday conversations with women, and I don't talk to women just to get with them.
-I also see most frat guys as: self-centered, arrogant/****y, insecure, guys who put too much value in women, and they feel they have more "power" than other people simply because they are in a frat.

Meanwhile, some characteristics I do have that I feel may make people think I am in a frat:
- I am confident in my actions, and will try to do what's right, even if it is against popular demand. If I am offered a short-term benefit for doing something I feel is wrong or a long-term benefit later on for something I feel is right, I will take the latter every single time.
- I have an athletic build. Ok, maybe this isn't that big of a deal, but it seems a lot of frat guys obsess about going to the gym, and they flaunt it too. I only go to the gym to improve myself (I don't need to make a show of it). In fact, I try to go to the gym when no one else is around.
- I am a leader among my friends. When we go out at school, I usually am the one who knows where to go, what to do, when to leave (either the dorms or the party), etc.
- I network well. I learned this one from my dad and my experiences with internships and such, but I try to have as many contacts as I can. It always pays to be nice to someone unless they're being mean to you. Even then, it doesn't pay to start something; simply take the high road.
- I handle myself well with frat guys, and I have a good idea of how the Fraternity system works. Maybe this is it. I know a few frat guys (so it doesn't apply when I am talking to them), but at parties, I am unfazed by someone just because they're in the frat. I don't get scared, I don't run, I don't try to start a fight. I believe words solve most college problems, so if something comes up, I calmly talk to the brother(s) involved and there are no further issues. As for knowing how things work, I know enough frat guys to understand what really goes on.

So, what do you guys think? I don't know whether to treat the question, "Are you in a frat?" or "I'm surprised you aren't in a frat" as a compliment or as an insult. Maybe there is something I didn't hit on, or maybe there is something you can make out of this post - all thoughts are appreciated.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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DoctorLW

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It's a common question man. Great way to strike up conversation.

Your attitude towards guys in frats is messed up though. You are quick to stereotype them, yet doing so makes you the same arrogant guy you claim to dislike. It's not insulting or a compliment to be asked if you are in a frat... it's merely a question.
 

The Comeback Kid

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DoctorLW said:
It's a common question man. Great way to strike up conversation.

Your attitude towards guys in frats is messed up though. You are quick to stereotype them, yet doing so makes you the same arrogant guy you claim to dislike. It's not insulting or a compliment to be asked if you are in a frat... it's merely a question.
I know I came off a little bit harsh in my criticism, but the tone of the question doesn't seem to be "so, are you in a frat?" It's more "You're NOT in a frat???" as if they're surprised.

I'm going to guess you are in a frat DoctorLW? Keep in mind my opinions here aren't directed at ALL frat members, just some of them. And for those "some", my comments are correct. I see examples of it all the time. However, there are many other brothers who are good guys, they're not your stereotypical frat member.

It's not a stereotype of you've seen it first-hand. :up:
 

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I agree.. I think you're over thinking a common question. I get asked all the time, and yes I am in a fraternity. But why would they be asking me anyways? Because they want to start up conversation. So I would take this as more of a compliment than something negative.
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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