"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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why do woman who really nice at beginning turn so cold

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Hey guys. So im still learning and still very much an AFC.

Iv had a few past encounters and now im wondering this. Girls really nice and into be at the beginning and didnt mind be calling them pet names and vice versa but then they turn really *****y when they dont like you anymore.

I dont understand. They call me ugly and not good looking after. I still try to be nice and friendly but they are real *****es to me and try push me away. And even if I made one stupid mistake (like I pissed them off once, but only cos I reli liked her) they forget all the nice things I have done that other guys wudnt do. Like for example buying them a really nice gift, nice restaurants. Telling her im thinking of her. (By the way at the time she reli like all these things and said how amazing and the best I was amd that I made her happy). Also for example when she has a family member ill I was always caring and asking how she was etc and she really appreciated it.

Why they turn so nasty I dont get it? I have never turned nasty even to girls I dont have attravtion any more or even not interested.

Always trying to learn. Thank you
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Because they are afraid you will be like the rest who stalk them, beg them, and call them 20 times a day. They get sick of the AFC's, and turn into b!tches. Unless you can do something for them, or they want something you have, then they will be nice.

As soon as they get nasty, next them from your life. If you can't eat it, sh!t on it, or f/ck it, throw it away.
 

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The reason she acted all nice in the beginning is because her "interest level" was high, but you acted all needy, buying her gifts and telling her how you feel which resultet in lowering her interest. What you should do now is: Stop giving her attention, let her initiate most of the contact, buy her gifts only on her birthday, valentine day. Do not talk with her about your feelings (i love you, i care about you and other bull****) it makes you seem desperate and needy. Pulling back the attention will make her hamster spin, she will start thinking that you dont care about her as much as you used to, making her insecure and will incrase her romantic interest. When in a relationship, always treat a girl the same way you did on your first date. Hope i helped.
 

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lamobatsman said:
Hey guys. So im still learning and still very much an AFC.

Iv had a few past encounters and now im wondering this. Girls really nice and into be at the beginning and didnt mind be calling them pet names and vice versa but then they turn really *****y when they dont like you anymore.

I dont understand. They call me ugly and not good looking after. I still try to be nice and friendly but they are real *****es to me and try push me away. And even if I made one stupid mistake (like I pissed them off once, but only cos I reli liked her) they forget all the nice things I have done that other guys wudnt do. Like for example buying them a really nice gift, nice restaurants. Telling her im thinking of her. (By the way at the time she reli like all these things and said how amazing and the best I was amd that I made her happy). Also for example when she has a family member ill I was always caring and asking how she was etc and she really appreciated it.

Why they turn so nasty I dont get it? I have never turned nasty even to girls I dont have attravtion any more or even not interested.

Always trying to learn. Thank you
You do have a lot to learn indeed Mate! The Bold parts are the ones you should pay attention.

First of all, this line of thought of yours is beyond the AFC Blue Pilled Disney belief. It's sad reading trought your post!

Your first mistake (in this post) is trying to be nice and friendly even after they treated you like sh*t. You should never be nice and friendly, because nice and friendly will barely get you somewhere, that "where" being the friendzone. They are not God, or goddess, so why should you be nice and friendly towards her, specially if she treated you badly?
The problem is that you are still pedestalizing women. They are just as human as you. They sh*t, they fart, they cheat. They are not in any way more special than you or me just for the fact that they have a vagina and we don't. Nice and friendly? Not good mate!

They forget all the nice things because they are not loyal as you and me. They are emotional. They feel. And if sh*t don't feel right anymore, that's it. You think that it's bad that they forgot about all the sh*t you've done her?
Imagine a guy who is married to a woman, than she dumps him for a dude 20 years younger, just because it felt right. She forgot about her house, her kids, all the gifts and restaurants, flowers, that huge ass TV she wanted, the shoes, the trips to the caribbean. Everything. So don't whine that she forgot about one or two things you did for her. It can be worse. It is in their nature, and the only thing you could do is to accept that. And please, NEVER EVER DO IT AGAIN. Gifts and restaurants will not lead you to her p*ssy.

There is a good post you should read, it will open your eyes a little bit! Everytime you got this Disney happy endings kind of thought, read it again. It may hurt a little bit, but It is the real truth about women!

Best of luck dude!
 

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Women are only attracted to and respectful of men who have something to offer them (real or perceived). They are opportunists in every sense of the word. Never forget that.

If a tree represents a man.. the fruit on that tree represents a man's appeal to a woman. As long as that tree has ripe fresh fruit to feed the woman.. she will stay under that tree. She will climb it. Sleep under it and try to keep others away from it.

The MINUTE she spots a healthier tree with better fruit.. OR the minute the tree stops producing sustainable fruit (with no signs of improvement).. she no longer has any motivation or incentive to bother with the tree. She wants/needs fresh fruit and that particular tree no longer provides this --> So she no longer gives a sh!t about the tree. It can die, get cut down or fall over and she won't care.

So there you go.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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PlayHer Man said:
Women are only attracted to and respectful of men who have something to offer them (real or perceived). They are opportunists in every sense of the word. Never forget that.

If a tree represents a man.. the fruit on that tree represents a man's appeal to a woman. As long as that tree has ripe fresh fruit to feed the woman.. she will stay under that tree. She will climb it. Sleep under it and try to keep others away from it.

The MINUTE she spots a healthier tree with better fruit.. OR the minute the tree stops producing sustainable fruit (with no signs of improvement).. she no longer has any motivation or incentive to bother with the tree. She wants/needs fresh fruit and that particular tree no longer provides this --> So she no longer gives a sh!t about the tree. It can die, get cut down or fall over and she won't care.

So there you go.
Great analogy. I like it :up:
 

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Most women, outside of my mom (need to find someone like her), do not know how to have a real holistic picture of a guy and relationship. It's very much about how they feel at the moment, without much realistic consideration of the past and future. They have amnesia when it comes to all the good things you've done but don't have amnesia when it comes to the bad things you've done. In fact, they may have false memory syndrome and accuse you of things you've never done or straight up just imagine something that isn't based on truth or logic. They also have no realistic precognition of the future and what building a future with someone really means. In other words, they don't really know what's best for them in a real, long-term relationship/marriage, and they can't even form a realistic picture of what is best for them long-term. Instead, it is purely based on how they "feel" at the moment.

There are some girls who are exceptions to this. In my experience, most girls who are the exception to this were raised by very good families and had very good, loyal mothers. If you're ever thinking of getting into a LTR with a woman, pay attention to her mother and it will give you good insight.
 

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Stop being so nice to these girls, moreover stop caring so much. That helps some.
 

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A lot of women (and men) live in an internal fantasy world. When anything disconfirms the fantasy, they get ugly about it.

These types of people will be forever unhappy because fantasy can never be reality.

They try to live by the saying 'I want it, therefore it is' instead of 'it is, therefore I want it'.

Stay away from these people. They are f*cked up.
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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