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Why do pretty girls in a group allow the fat ugly one to think for them?

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Why do pretty girls in a group allow the fat ugly one to think for them?

I would really like some opinions on this cause i see it all the time when i go out , 3 fine HBs and and on mammoth who does all the thinking and decision making including who the HBs are allow to talk to! Why do women think that the ugly fat one should think for them?
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Its prolly cuz some HBs just are insecure like that, where the bigger girls just don't care about being like that anymore. I agree, why can't some of these girls think for themselves? It is a shame that they can't just tell their friend that they'd like to make the choice on their own. I guess they don't want to risk the friendship they've prolly had or would feel bad for somer aeson.
 

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DonJoseCantosie said:
Its prolly cuz some HBs just are insecure like that, where the bigger girls just don't care about being like that anymore. I agree, why can't some of these girls think for themselves? It is a shame that they can't just tell their friend that they'd like to make the choice on their own. I guess they don't want to risk the friendship they've prolly had or would feel bad for somer aeson.

Its like they turn off their brains when they go out . I have seen a guy ask an HB9 or 10 a question and she turns to the fat girl to see what she should say or do. Then if fatty does not give the nod of approval then that guy is banished... Its like the fat girl gets to chose who the pretty ones f , date and marry...
 

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lol i dealt with this just this past weekend. I had fun with it though.

The fugly girl is usually the most masculine and thus is something hbs gravitate toward. Just a guess.
 

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She's not doing the "thinking" for them, she's doing the "c@ck blocking" for them. This way, they don't have to do the dirty work. So they defer to her.
 

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You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

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Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

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Mr. Me said:
She's not doing the "thinking" for them, she's doing the "c@ck blocking" for them. This way, they don't have to do the dirty work. So they defer to her.
BUt sometimes it seems like they like a guy but the fatty tells them "no.. dont talk to him" then he is out...
 

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I truly believe the heffalumper's attitude is a manifestation of her self-hatred and hatred of her eye pleasing friends. That's why so many fat women act as if they are too fine for the guys in a social setting and have to be loud and vulgar about it. It's sort of a defense mechanism.
 

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sometimes it seems like they like a guy
It SEEMS like that, doesn't it?

When a woman really likes a guy, there isn't a mountain high enough to stop her.

So, if she SEEMS to be attracted, but then defers to the c@ckblocker to get rid of a guy, then that tells me she was only playing around with the guy's attention, acting as if interested, but wasn't really.

Or maybe the c@ckblocker gets the guy to crack and show that he's uptight or insecure, and that turns off the target, so the guy gets summarily dismissed.
 

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Or get an indiscriminate friend to take the mammoth's attention long enough for you to game properly. There ain't nothing wrong with making the numbers even.
 

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Actually Mr. Me, sometimes girls...despite wanting a guy badly, truly want a friend's approval, because of that social pressure. Hence why u'll have the feeling that there giving huge iois before u approach and then they seem disinterested, its all an act. They just don't want to be seen as easy in front of their friends....hence why its prolly best to be friend the fatty or the ****block first before then isolating. Sometimes u can isolate before, but its prolly best to be friend the obstacle.

I can see where ur coming from tho Don, its been my sticking point for the longest time, isolating a girl away from a group, but im learning that yea...just be courteous to the group, show that ur a social guy...and they'll most likely let u have her.
 

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The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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because she is the "protector" of the group.
Thank for all the input everyone..

"protector"????? ummm ok why does the least desirable one have to be the protector? And does she "protect" the pretty girls even when they are choosing a husband?
 

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yea, i agree. She's the protect of the group and we just got to get on their good graces that we're not an average guy. BUT, if she still doesn't trust u, wingman time...and if no wingman...i'd say still go for it!
 

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DonJoseCantosie said:
Actually Mr. Me, sometimes girls...despite wanting a guy badly, truly want a friend's approval, because of that social pressure..
yeh which also why so many women end up f ing the same 3 guys in school or at the office or where ever... Its like women form a collective and all have the same goal.... no deviation allowed...
 

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DonGorgon said:
Thank for all the input everyone..

"protector"????? ummm ok why does the least desirable one have to be the protector? And does she "protect" the pretty girls even when they are choosing a husband?
Because she's prolly jealous and doesn't want to be left out. Yea, cuz some girls u can tell are trying to ****block out of straight jealousy even if they know their friend likes u. One time i was at a party, there was this girl i was talking to and then a friend of hers ****blocked me saying i won't win tonight. The ****blocker was a girl i formerly cold approached, yet didn't get too far with due to lack of calibration and what not. So sometimes its out of jealousy.
 

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She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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DonJoseCantosie said:
yea, i agree. She's the protect of the group and we just got to get on their good graces that we're not an average guy. BUT, if she still doesn't trust u, wingman time...and if no wingman...i'd say still go for it!
damn so now we have to not only aknowlege fatties but we have to appease them and make them happy too... damn... oh well:nervous:
 

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DonJoseCantosie said:
Because she's prolly jealous and doesn't want to be left out. Yea, cuz some girls u can tell are trying to ****block out of straight jealousy even if they know their friend likes u. One time i was at a party, there was this girl i was talking to and then a friend of hers ****blocked me saying i won't win tonight. The ****blocker was a girl i formerly cold approached, yet didn't get too far with due to lack of calibration and what not. So sometimes its out of jealousy.
what is an "FR"???
 

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DonGorgon said:
yeh which also why so many women end up f ing the same 3 guys in school or at the office or where ever... Its like women form a collective and all have the same goal.... no deviation allowed...
As frustrating as it may be to us, having to go through all that, we're definitely learning how to win in that situation tho.
 

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FR is a field report or a journal of ur outings. But about the fatties, i would say just befriending them for about a minute or so prolly is all thats needed. But if she's still indifferent, then i'd say still try to isolate the girl even if we fear that the fatty will try to prevent it.
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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