"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Why Do Many Women Prefet to Fvuk Well-Built/Muscular Men?

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I'm sure those of you who go to gyms have similar testimonies, especially those of you who may have been as skinny as I was. Once you start getting buffy, women who normally didn't seem to give you the time of day start turning around to take second looks at you when you walk by. I had posted something on the forum a while ago questioning the intentions of many married women who go to gyms, and someone responding that several of them go there specifically to meet well-built men to fvuck them. So my question then is, what is it about men who are well-defined, well built and muscular that makes many women prefer to have sex with them? Is it the myth that muscular men are sexually virile, more exciting and adventurous in bed and have good genes that can be passed on to off spring in terms of women looking to have longterm relationships with them?
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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Ha, ha, ha. For me, the answer is because they have phat asses. I want a woman whose ass claps in bed, especially during the doggy style position. The sex feels better and more intense, it stimulates and arouses you more, and you *** with power.
 

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well if it's just second glances, heck, let me say that i take second glances at buff guys.

and no i'm not gay, i'm secure about my straightness, but those buffed up guys do make me take second glances thinking "damn when will i get like that" (i just started going to the gym seriously)
 

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Same reason guys prefer women with good bodies...they look better naked.
 

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Simple

We prefer traits that convey good odds of producing and raising healthy offspring.
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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I personally think looking huge isn't the most attractive look, i prefer to have a bit of muscle on just so i don't look too skinny as i keep my body fat pretty low, its also i bit of a deterent incase someone wants to try and fight me. I suppose women would feel safer being with a muscle bound man. But look at the likes of johny depp for example, he's not muscley and women go crazy over his looks
 

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A well built physique reflects strength and a whole other bunch of positive qualities that are deemed masculine and thus 'sexy'.

When you're well built your chest sticks out more than the average guys - which makes you look confident, strong, capable, powerful. Most women want to submit in the bedroom and be dominated. They want to be f*cked by a man. They want to feel like women.

For those women who just like the screw well-built guys, why would they chose anyone who wasn't built when it's more than likely the guy who is has more stamina and a better body to feel and look at while he's lurched over her giving her his meat. It's all way too obvious!

The Muscly Jerk
 

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musclyjerk said:
A well built physique reflects strength and a whole other bunch of positive qualities that are deemed masculine and thus 'sexy'.

When you're well built your chest sticks out more than the average guys - which makes you look confident, strong, capable, powerful. Most women want to submit in the bedroom and be dominated. They want to be f*cked by a man. They want to feel like women.

For those women who just like the screw well-built guys, why would they chose anyone who wasn't built when it's more than likely the guy who is has more stamina and a better body to feel and look at while he's lurched over her giving her his meat. It's all way too obvious!

The Muscly Jerk
Couldn't have said it better myself...guys, you should ALL be going to the gym and getting buff....it can only help you on your quest to DJ-dom!!
 

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Big muscles are like driving a muscle car...

It might attract some girls who subconsciously "think" it signifies higher testosterone.
But it might turn off other girls who consciously think that you're compensating for a small kak.

I would have to say the top 2 physical turn-on's for women without seeing you naked though are:

Good looks
Deep voice

In other words, if there was a guy who looked like Johnny Depp AND sounded like Barry White...that dude will have some MAJOR attraction.


Then again, Style is not great-looking, only 5'6" and sounds like a phag...and is a successful PUG, so anything's possible, I guess. However, I think his "omega" stature actually helps him score points in COMFORT, if not ATTRACTION. And that is where Mystery says most of the Game is played, anyways...
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Yeah, sometimes I read all the stuff in this forum and come to the realization that if you want to pull some HB8, 9, 10's just get your ass to the gym and get a great body. Simple. When you're well built and defined all the other stuff on these boards doesn't matter much as long as you're not a complete social retard.
 

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I also have read (think it was in the way of the superior man but have read it other places as well) that the more feminine a woman is more likely she is attracted to the more masculine type, e.g. phsyically musclular, deep voice etc... and the more masculine a woman is the more likely she is going to be attracted to a more feminine looking man. Its also a matter of tastes i suppose.

I think muscle in a man is the equivalent of boobs in women, giant over the top boobs some men love, i think it is a turn off, also no boobs what so ever is a turn off. Like being overly musclular, some women will go crazy over, then some will find it a turn off, but absolutly no muscle what so ever would be a turn off for most.
 

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Dunno, haha this subject has been tossed around here and as I've said before, about myself personally, gaining 20lbs has NOT helped me one bit. I feel like I got a lot more attn when I was twirpy than now, when I've got some visible bulk.

I'm sure perception plays a big part of it, and my self-perception has outpaced real-life female perceptions of me by miles. So, in a nutshell, my mind is telling me I should get a lot more female attention than they are giving me. Life sux LOL :moon:
 

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Women prefer well-built/muscular men because they get horny too. It's more appealing physically, just like a HB is to us. I see big girls that are cute in the face, but I pass a lot of them over for a chick with a smokin' body that aren't as pretty in the face.

What some of the dudes on this site already know, being in shape makes it so much easier to approach women or have women approach you. It also puts you at an advantage because so many dudes are out of shape nowadays. It's primal instinct.
 

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Simple,we like nice bods,which means big boobs and stunning curves. Now the women would like the same,muscular arms, chest and so on. Now besides the looks it implies alot of other things as well;you care about how you look,your strong,your dedicated and besides who wants spagehetti arms?
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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L777 said:
Couldn't have said it better myself...guys, you should ALL be going to the gym and getting buff....it can only help you on your quest to DJ-dom!!
No way, the less dudes go the gym the more pvssy there is for me :rockon:

Seriously though, built = more sex with hotter chicks. I can attest to this frome experience.
 

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guys were meant to have muscles...

every guy should be lifting weights. It doesnt only help you get bigger and stronger but it helps your confidence a ton.
 

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I don't prefer skinny men. There is something...fragile about them. I like guys with some beef, even a little over weight is all right.
 

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insidious said:
Dunno, haha this subject has been tossed around here and as I've said before, about myself personally, gaining 20lbs has NOT helped me one bit. I feel like I got a lot more attn when I was twirpy than now, when I've got some visible bulk.

I'm sure perception plays a big part of it, and my self-perception has outpaced real-life female perceptions of me by miles. So, in a nutshell, my mind is telling me I should get a lot more female attention than they are giving me. Life sux LOL :moon:
When it comes to physical stature, women look more at bone structure, which is a better marker of hormone levels and genetics.

That's why height and big bones are so attractive.

Muscles can be pumped up, but bones can't.
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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