"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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why?.... do i always have this situation

lafual

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Hey, i have a problem.. emm everytime i have speaked to a girl, i start to think that i could do something more backthere, When i think back. i start to think that i could make the conversation more intressted and more funnyier but i never do, afterwards i always think "omg, why didnt i ask her that and that, why didnt i do that... it was so much i could add in the conversation.. WHY DIDNT i do that" so why do i get these question and not when i talk to a girl? im not nervous when i talk to a girl, nothing like that.. its just that every question/my conversation skillz i have on my mind is gone when i talk to a girl and then after that i talked to this girl i get the question back/my conversationskillz..

Whyyy?? is it because im to foucesd or think or something like that to much?
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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everybody has this....

just remember to use what you didn't use in the future if it ever fits the situation and you'll not dwell on the past as much
 

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That's how you learn. Aren't you getting a little better with each approach? Those questions are a good thing.
 

Credos

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Why do we fall? So we can learn to pick ourself up.

Its just practice mate, we all have it, just don't think too much about it and try it the next time, see how it works out and learn from it...

good luck:up:
 

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Shiftkey said:
That's how you learn. Aren't you getting a little better with each approach? Those questions are a good thing.
well, not so good.. cuz when i have talked with girls, I get a bad feeling afterwards cuz i feel that i have embrassed myself.. cuz i always start to think "omg what a dumb ass you are" i realyrealy want to stop think, but its just that its poopping up.. I dont have fear anymore for girls, my approaching is ok.. i didnt approach untill i readed photo's thread.. its just that my conversation skillz stop my approaching.. but well i have to practice as you all say :)
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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The constant self-monitoring is only going to make your conversations worse. I would (first) stop thinking about the goal so hard and just have lots and lots of conversations. For me, that would be step 1. Let it go, be willing to screw things up and not care. The goal should be something you *cannot* fail at, that is just engagging in the conversations in the first place.

So I think the goal should first be to have conversations and stay talkative. That's way more important than exactly saying the most perfect thing ever. I would also kill the self-monitoring. Everytime it starts to crop up, just shut it down. Say what you were going to say anyway, even if it isn't ideal. Juts throw it out there. Sometimes you will get sh1t for it, but that's just part of the process. It;s better to really learn what not to say than to constantly second guess your every move based on some perception of what might not fly. Basically, if you always think of what might go wrong or how you could always do so much better, then the self-fuffiling prophecy is already set in motion. It's better to think about all the stuff you did right and how great you did, and then add modifications in extremely small, specific steps. Like next convo, I want to talk more, remember to breathe deeply, etc. I think a lot of problems will self-correct once the intense anxiety goes away and it becomes more of an automatic process.
 
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