Why Do Guys Change For Girls?

[Pimply_Pimp]

I have a friend who has been going out with his gf for about 4 years now.

He smokes cigarettes, but she told him to quit and he said "OK." However, he did not quit. He still smokes when we hang out but he will NEVER smoke when she is around. He claims he really loves her and I always ask him why he lies to her all the time and can't just be a man and do what he wants. He says "I don't want to lose her."

Now, the point of this thread is not just about cigarettes. It's about ANYTHING a woman might tell you NOT to do. If I was in my friend's position I would have said, "You don't like me smoking? Too bad. I smoked when you met me and if you can't handle it now, that's your problem." And it would be over.

I tell my friend he is being a puss all the time, but he won't listen.

Why do a lot of guys do this? Being "whipped" by women? Do they enjoy it? Can my friend really "love" his girlfriend if he is lying to her about something as trivial as this?

 

[Captain]

Because they mistakenly think that by doing what she says and be avoiding conflict at all costs she will like him more.

 

[f283000]

Because they mistakenly think that by doing what she says and be avoiding conflict at all costs she will like him more.

Most men (like 99% of men) don't know much about what attracts a woman.

We don't have to lie to ourselves. Most of us here before we discovered this forum and the world of PUA's where in awe at how the hb9's would be in the arms of the local douchebags and a**holes, while we being so good and honest couldn't get nothing.

Most guys out there are as hopeless as most of us where before we came into this forum and this knowledge.

 

[PapiChulo]

Once you brought that issue with smoking, we have to discuss that too. I am an avid smoker myself and simply dont understand all these particularly younger women that find smoking outright disgusting- almost as if I kill a baby-seal every time a light up a cancer stick. Every time I see them ****-faced drunk, about to vomit on the toilet, I dont even mention anything.

When I hear that judging little note in their voices :"Oh, you are a smoker...*disgusted* " or "Oh, thats because you smoke.... *you must be in a such poor physical shape*", it makes me want to put them back into their places real quick.

 

[Ease]

You're forgetting the fact that he hasn't actually stopped smoking.

Lying to your girl is manly.

Of course the obvious thing to do in this case is to say 'i can smoke if i want to, ho', but it's not as bad as actually stopping smoking.

When my girl asks me if i got involved with any girls last night, i tell her no- i didn't. This may be a lie, but in this case saying 'i make out with girls behind your back, ho' is no good.

Sometimes the true nature of being a man is less obvious.

 

[zekko]

When I hear that judging little note in their voices :"Oh, you are a smoker...*disgusted* " or "Oh, thats because you smoke.... *you must be in a such poor physical shape*", it makes me want to put them back into their places real quick.

As a former smoker I can say this: Cigarettes freaking REEK. They stink. They ARE disgusting. They're tasty and pleasurable when you're smoking them, but get away from them for awhile and they are just plain nasty. Especially the really cheap generic brands, which probably most people smoke these days because of the taxes and high price of cigarettes.

Oh, and they're not good for you either. Especially your lungs.

 

[jafyk]

Well, relationships are about compromise right? I'm sure there are things guys expect from their women and the women yield and meet those expectations. Why shouldn't it be the same with guys. This attitude lead men to whatever and then the people under them suffer because they think I'm a man and should do whatever pleases me.

 

[teacha]

Well, relationships are about compromise right? I'm sure there are things guys expect from their women and the women yield and meet those expectations. Why shouldn't it be the same with guys. This attitude lead men to whatever and then the people under them suffer because they think I'm a man and should do whatever pleases me.

^^^^^^This.

 

[comic_relief]

are you freaking kidding me man, the guy has been in the relationship for FOUR YEARS. He has a lot of time rolled up into one girl and losing that person would do ALOT of damage to him.

His girlfriend most likely knows he still smokes as well. When you kiss someone you can smell/taste that stuff (I used to smoke a long time ago and believe me people could still smell it when I breathed).

I hated breaking up with my girlfriend of two years and was one of the hardest things that I have ever had to do. Even though I rebounded, I doubt that I am who I was beforehand.

- comic_relief

 

[Nino-Tk]

I remember my chick didn't want me having facial hair and wearing skinny jeans, that sucked big time as I like them.

 

[f283000]

I remember my chick didn't want me having facial hair and wearing skinny jeans, that sucked big time as I like them.

She had a point about the skinny jeans only F*gs wear skinny jeans. But facial hair? Nothing manlier than a nice beard or mustache.

 

[Alle_Gory]

I remember my chick didn't want me having facial hair and wearing skinny jeans, that sucked big time as I like them.

You're only 17 so it probably didn't look right. Wait a few years then it will grow in better.

Also, skinny jeans make you look like a fag. Why not wear some blue spandex instead? It's pretty much the same thing.

 

[x86]

Because they mistakenly think that by doing what she says and be avoiding conflict at all costs she will like him more.

Not to mention by not being your best self you are going to loose sight of who you are as a person.

The #1 lesson I took away from this forum.

 

[Captain]

Well, relationships are about compromise right?

That's feminist brainwashing/social conditioning. Men don't compromise on what they ENJOY doing for women. Of course, it's different if he decides to stop smoking for HIS OWN benefit.

 

[Warrior74]

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[Nexus Polaris]

Love can only exist when you are free to be genuine with the other person. It's not love if you're changing your behavior just to keep someone around. That's codependence.

 

[comic_relief]

That's feminist brainwashing/social conditioning. Men don't compromise on what they ENJOY doing for women. Of course, it's different if he decides to stop smoking for HIS OWN benefit.

Are you kidding me? What a joke...

Any sucessful relationship is built on compromise. Otherwise the girl will be VERY unhappy with your stubborn @$$. It's all give and take.

- comic_relief

 

[Alle_Gory]

That's feminist brainwashing/social conditioning. Men don't compromise on what they ENJOY doing for women. Of course, it's different if he decides to stop smoking for HIS OWN benefit.

I think he meant mutual compromise.

 

[jafyk]

I think he meant mutual compromise.

Thank you very much. Exactly what I meant. So, according to some of the guys here I bet if a man loves gambling and it's affecting his family it's ok as long as he's being a man and doing what he loves. I certainly believe there's a female version of the same thought process going on in some forum.

 

[HeMan]

relationships are about compromise..

some people here have seriously no idea