why do girls expect some guys to do crap from them but other guys they dont?

[lamobatsman]

are girls that stupid or...? that they expect some guys to jump through hoops for them and play them but other guys they wont do that to.

iv had girls flirt and tease with me and expect me to do things that they wouldnt expect other guys they actually like to do.

 

[self-respect]

If she wants you, you get a shortcut to her pu$$y. If she's not sure, she'll test you. If she doesn't want you and you keep trying, you're about to get played hard. Unless she's actually decent and tells you no in some way.

 

[evan12]

because they think you are wussy and will do what other real men not do it .
learn to have boundaries and say NO to these requests , women will respect you more

 

[VladPatton]

It's a huge shıt test. If you fail, it's a downward spiral of you constantly doing shıt for her. Stop it and just say no. Girls love having worker pawns around them they can command.

 

[Zerro]

If she wants you, you get a shortcut to her pu$$y. If she's not sure, she'll test you. If she doesn't want you and you keep trying, you're about to get played hard. Unless she's actually decent and tells you no in some way.

This.

A woman who wants you won't make you play bull**** games with her.

 

[floydb25]

because they think you are wussy and will do what other real men not do it .
learn to have boundaries and say NO to these requests , women will respect you more

This.

Also, with people in general. If people suspect you to be weak, afraid, insecure, lonely, desperate, of low self-esteem, etc, and won't stand up for yourself, tolerate a lot of BS, and never say no, they'll walk all over you, and treat you like dirt. Anything you allow - they will get away with.

Remember: you train people how to treat you, and people aren't stupid. They know who they're bullying, using, stringing along, etc. Females are no different than men, and you especially got to watch out for the hot / flashy / confident ones. They'll prey on weak / desperate men and manipulate them with their sexuality.

Predators exist out there.

 

[Robert28]

because they think you are wussy and will do what other real men not do it .
learn to have boundaries and say NO to these requests , women will respect you more

how do women know wth a wussy even is? 90% of them wouldn't know what a "real man" was if he slapped them upside their head with his penis. take a look around you, my friend. most women aren't dating "real men". what they THINK is a real man, is anything but.

 

[lamobatsman]

If she wants you, you get a shortcut to her pu$$y. If she's not sure, she'll test you. If she doesn't want you and you keep trying, you're about to get played hard. Unless she's actually decent and tells you no in some way.

sorry can you elaborate on the "If she's not sure, she'll test you."
and the next question is would you then pursue a women who is not sure and **** tests you?? as a guy would you not be annoyed or pissed that shes taking so long to test you out etc?

sorry am still learning!!

 

[BatJuan]

sorry can you elaborate on the "If she's not sure, she'll test you."
and the next question is would you then pursue a women who is not sure and **** tests you?? as a guy would you not be annoyed or pissed that shes taking so long to test you out etc?

sorry am still learning!!

If someone offers you your favorite beverage, you will drink it right away. If someone offers you something you've never had before but it looks promising, you'll take a sip at first to verify it's as good as it looks. If chicks see potential but haven't been convinced, they'll say stupid things to see how you respond.

If you pursue is up to you, but it shouldn't be a dis-qualifier as it's just the female way of taking a sip of your drink. If she tests nonstop, that's when you give her the finger.

 

[PapiChulo]

I ve come to realize that women always want and expect something from you, whereas its favors, validation, money, sex, a diamond ring. It is female entitlement at work with no intentions to repay you. If she asks you to help her move you are probably the lowest guy on the totem pole. You reject that and she has no idea where to place you.

 

[nroug7]

I enjoy when girls play games or pull sh1t tests.
Because I know I'll win whether I get her or not,
And I get to feel all the more badass for it.

 

[Mike32ct]

I ve come to realize that women always want and expect something from you, whereas its favors, validation, money, sex, a diamond ring. It is female entitlement at work with no intentions to repay you. If she asks you to help her move you are probably the lowest guy on the totem pole. You reject that and she has no idea where to place you.

Painful truth. I helped a fat chick move once lol.

Do NOT do favors for women. Most times, they are just using you.

A good guy friend will return the favor. A female friend will ask for another favor.

 

[lamobatsman]

what are the sort of tests that they do to guys?

 

[zekko]

what are the sort of tests that they do to guys?

This is supposedly a huge, huge thing according to pickup theory. The idea is that women give you compliance tests. The idea behind it is that she wants to know if you will jump through hoops for her and do anything that you ask her to do. Which is of course a turnoff. If you pass her test, then that's supposed to be attractive.

One of the "featured articles" at the top of the page deals with this sort of thing, it's worth a read, and goes into more detail:

http://www.sosuave.com/articles/tao/what-makes-a-guy-hot.htm?forum

I do use this sort of thing myself. It's just a matter of making sure you are leading and not following (being the masculine, not the feminine). But to be honest, I can't recall this ever becoming the kind of big deal PUAs make it out to be.

 

[lamobatsman]

but girls who like you and want to sleep with you wont **** test you?? they wont play sill long games with the guys they actually like so why the hell should we expect any different treatment?!!

 

[Mike32ct]

but girls who like you and want to sleep with you wont **** test you?? they wont play sill long games with the guys they actually like so why the hell should we expect any different treatment?!!

Let me put it this way...

When guys don't find a female attractive, it's nothing personal. We usually just let her be. We aren't out to get her.

Women are different. For them, it is personal. They resent and look down on guys they don't find attractive. Even worse, they can be sort of sadistic. It's like, "OMG, he's such a loser. I'll ask him to do xyz for me. If he says yes, I can laugh at what a pushover he is AND get free favors. Plus I now can gossip about this to my gfs."

So it's a combination of free favors AND getting sick sadistic pleasure out of using someone and setting a trap to see how much of a pushover he is.

 

[zekko]

but girls who like you and want to sleep with you wont **** test you?? they wont play sill long games with the guys they actually like so why the hell should we expect any different treatment?!!

If her interest in you is high enough, she may not test you.
Or she may test you, just because she likes to experience your masculinity when you pass the test.
Some say that if a girl tests you, she is at least interested in you enough to give you consideration (hence the tests).

So it's a combination of free favors AND getting sick sadistic pleasure out of using someone and setting a trap to see how much of a pushover he is.

Plus the ego boost for her, of course.

 

[Mike32ct]

If her interest in you is high enough, she may not test you.

Bingo. ^This.

Or she may test you, just because she likes to experience your masculinity when you pass the test.

Yeah. I could see this happening in a relationship sometimes.

Some say that if a girl tests you, she is at least interested in you enough to give you consideration (hence the tests).

It sounds ok, but I'm on the fence on this one. I guess it's context dependent.

Sometimes this sh@t test could be a subtle form of flirtation. I'll buy that. In other words, she asks you to do something, but it's not a put down. She's just having a bit of fun with you and she wants you to pass by not giving her what she asks.




Plus the ego boost for her, of course.

Yes, the ego boost she gets by having power over you is a factor too.

This is probably confusing for the OP. All I can say is everything with women is context dependent. It takes experience to know if she's flirting or testing out of interest or just being a sadistic b@tch.

But the general rule is, initially, how difficult she is, is inversely proportional to her attraction to you.

 

[lamobatsman]

Yes, the ego boost she gets by having power over you is a factor too.

This is probably confusing for the OP. All I can say is everything with women is context dependent. It takes experience to know if she's flirting or testing out of interest or just being a sadistic b@tch.

But the general rule is, initially, how difficult she is, is inversely proportional to her attraction to you.

thanx guys im learning. but srent some girls just love to flirt for attention and thats it. i mean they like to flirt and tease and get the attention from a guy but never actually really have interest for them to do anything

 

[Mike32ct]

thanx guys im learning. but srent some girls just love to flirt for attention and thats it. i mean they like to flirt and tease and get the attention from a guy but never actually really have interest for them to do anything

Yeah that's called attention wh@ring, which is another very common one.