"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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Why do girls change their attitude towards you once they have a man?

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I am not sure about some of you guys but I have noticed that girls that have rejected me, friendzoned me in my past or acted all weird around me for one reason or another--when they find a boyfriend they act all friendly, nice even approachable. I hate this when it happens makes me think they are fake
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Cause they are looking for more orbiters or man friends that they can string along and hang onto in case their stuff goes south with the BF.
 

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So simple motherf**ker.

All they want is new orbiters and guys to string along.

Second place is first loser. You need to come in first.

Just cut off all attention. Really easy.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Take a breather, Nismo! The guy is asking a valid question to which we may legitimately not know the answer.
Nice guy that I am, I'll add more.

Women love attention. Now that they have that glass ceiling, they'll stop you if you try to go further than the friendzone fan club.

Men win when there's sex. Women win when there's attention. I'll break this down even more.

Men get hurt when they lose sex partners. Women get hurt when they lose potential orbiters or male friends. You will hear of women crying when a beta orbiter or provider cuts her off. And Chad comes over to relieve her.

Alas, since the sexual needs are met by the alpha, the beta needs need to be met. This is just orbiter recruitment.

Not much analysis needed. This breakdown should cover all bases, and why you need to come in first place.

Unless you enjoy being just friends with a woman. Ever heard of a SS poster who enjoys being friends with women and not getting his dik wet? I sure haven't, not in the 12 years I've been around here, nor in the 4 years I've been on the board of moderators.
 
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I am not sure about some of you guys but I have noticed that girls that have rejected me, friendzoned me in my past or acted all weird around me for one reason or another--when they find a boyfriend they act all friendly, nice even approachable. I hate this when it happens makes me think they are fake
it could be that she was frustrated and angsty from being single/not getting laid and now that that's fixed she's in a better mood

maybe it's the honeymoon phase infatuation with her bf that put her in a good mood

maybe it's the other way around, her nice and tolerable personality is how she got a boyfriend in the first place.

maybe her being a b!tch was only ever an act and now that she has a man she doesn't need to put up an act anymore

maybe she's on her best behavior so her boyfriend doesn't catch wind of her true self before he's in too deep

pick whichever one makes the most sense to you.
 

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I am not sure about some of you guys but I have noticed that girls that have rejected me, friendzoned me in my past or acted all weird around me for one reason or another--when they find a boyfriend they act all friendly, nice even approachable. I hate this when it happens makes me think they are fake
Because they feel sorry for you. If they wanted you as a partner they wouldn't reject you. This doesn't mean that they didn't like you or that they wanted you to feel bad about yourself because they rejected you.
A woman rejecting YOU is not a reflection of YOU, it is a reflection of HER. That means that her rejection of you is nothing to do with whether you are good enough as a person. It is to do with what she wants and her tastes.
If these girls take the trouble to be friendlier to you after they have met someone else, you must be a nice guy. She knows that now she is partnered with someone she does not have to make it so clear to you that she doesn't want you as a partner so she can be more natural to you. Use this to your advantage.

And take it as a compliment and be happy.
 
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