"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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why didn't she reply?

pete101

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i've been trying to meet up with this facebook HB for ages now and she finally text me yesterday a time and place to meet today around 4.45pm. i gave her my work number and i replied to her from my personal number.

her: 'hey. thanks for the message on facebook. tomorrow around 6pm could be good to meet at (location x) does that suit? ;)'

i waited till just before 9pm to reply from my personal number

me: hey this is my personal no. use this instead. tomorrow is fine but lets make it 6.30. i was thinking of taking u to my fave decadent bar in (location y) so if u can meet there that be great. if not, meet me at (place at location x) ok?'

now i would have assumed i would have got a reply that night but if not, the next morning. but i waited till around midday and still no reply (i feel maybe i should have waited till 1pm before following it up) and i found out that (location y) is closed for renovation so i text her:

'hey, change of plans, (place in location y) is closed so we'll meet in (location x) like u suggested. meet me at (place at location x) at 6.30 ok?'

i assume it was a bad idea following up the 1st text but i can't understand why she never confirmed after?

did i wait too long to respond to her initial message or was there something i said in it that was afc/clingy which made her not want to meet up?
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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Pete,

I'm not doggin' on you man,but are you ever going to make a thread that doesn't have anything to do with flaking?
 

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If a girl really wants to meet with you, they will make it happen and not offer up excuses. It's a flake. Move on.

If she likes you, she will contact you. If not, it's her loss. Keep spinning the plates.
 

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bear in mind it's a facebook meeting so with a stranger so that might make her more anxious than normal.

i feel the rules are adjusted very slightly in that higher percentage of flaking occurs cos she feels unsure and unsafe.

maybe she misinterpreted my 1st message that i'd take her from location x to location y rather than actually meeting at location x outright.

obviously my 2nd text clears that up but maybe it's just a BS test she's doing to see how clingy and needy i am if she doesn't get back to me.

but like u say, it's her responsibility to get back to me now?
 

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she was busy with the 12 other inexperienced AFCs who are now scratching their heads at same thing you are.
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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DonGorgon

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brian123 said:
If a girl really wants to meet with you, they will make it happen and not offer up excuses.
^^^ Soo real soo true... Very little can stop a woman from being in the company of a man she likes... Excuses are signs of low interest and or BS'ing.
 

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a) because you were trying to meet up with her for ages
b) she's used to manipulating you, like making you wait, and now that you starting to act up, she desided to flake on you in retaliation.
c) what persistent exaction said
 

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Igetit! said:
Pete,

I'm not doggin' on you man,but are you ever going to make a thread that doesn't have anything to do with flaking?

agreed every single thread this guy makes is about a chick flaking him...
 
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