"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Why did you start pickup?

apocolipto

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Hey guys, I thought it would be interesting to see why you guys started pick up,what you wanted to achieve, and what have you achieved from there on?

I mainly started consiously working on my game when I figured out my GF from 2 years ago left me single and "brokenhearted" for two years.Obviously I was left with no social circle and no chicks,just guy friends.
Mainly,I want fun and sex from chicks.But I'm looking for a serious relationship,when I feel I have found a cool HB.Though,I doubt I'll go into a relationship again soon,as it ****s up your game.Maybe when I'm older.

At the moment I've started making new friends,and meeting new people.Got a thing going with a handful of chicks,and feeling great about my improvement!

Now let me hear YOUR stories :rockon:
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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LearningSlowly

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Well I had a long relationship that ended badly. We had been broken up for a while, but were still having sex when she decides to get a new boyfriend. That destroyed me. I harassed her, trying to get her back, every couple of months for about 6 months. That was the worst time in my life (followed in close second by the time when my freshman girlfriend and all of her friends dropped me from their social circle when I used to be the king of it. That led me to art though, and this lead me to sosuave, so the best things come from the worst things.)

I sulked for a long time. I tried to get with every girl in the one social group I had left. That killed my reputation in that group. Even now, when I'm cool as fvck, many of those girls look on me badly.

I somehow made the decision to get help. Lurked a PUA forum for a long time. Posted a lot, became a bit of a keyboard jockey (which is why my advice is sometimes better than my actions).

Someone on that forum recommended this site, and I had decided I was ready to write a journal. So I started a journal. I thought I had a little game back then, but I didn't.

The greatest thing I've learned is the necessity of having a journal. There's no way around it, you need to keep a record of successes and failures.
 

apocolipto

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Yes well,I'm building on my reputation.I also wanted to start a journal to help me achieve what I wanted to achieve.

Nice that we both have the same reason basicly!
 

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To fvck chicks.
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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LearningSlowly

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apocolipto said:
Yes well,I'm building on my reputation.
If theres one thing ive learned, its almost impossible to build on reputation. People put you in a box right away and its so hard to break from that box. Focus on meeting new people and making a great first impression.

(I enjoy ****ing chicks also, and will until I find a girlfriend in college)
 

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Danzy, I'm coming down this june to JHB, maybe we can meet up?
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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I don't think women are cool. I think we should all just fvck them.Relationships suck hey.My one friend got left and hurtin bad.

Advice? He is an afc, what should he do?
 

NorwegianDJ

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apocolipto said:
I don't think women are cool. I think we should all just fvck them.Relationships suck hey.My one friend got left and hurtin bad.

Advice? He is an afc, what should he do?
There are cool ones, just like there's cool guys. You just need to get to know them.

Chill with him dude. Just dont let him think about her all the time.
 
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