Why Chivalry Is Dead, From A Man’s Perspective

[the_stig]

Any thoughts??


http://elitedaily.com/dating/sex/why-chivalry-is-dead-from-a-mans-perspective/

 

[Soxfan27]

Not much to say except...I agree completely with that article.

 

[LandingWood]

I'm definitely a romantic but I've never done any of that **** although I'd love to. But there's no room for ****ing up when you're trying to ****. Article is spot on

 

[Who Dares Win]

Seems to me written from a woman, not because of the content itself but because the way its said and the implicit message that guys are superficial lazy bastards looking for sex only and the less they can do to get it, the better it is.

The author doesnt even bother to expand the point that women not only dont reward chivarly but often punish it by keeping their legs close as long as possible or giving the precious fruit for guys which behave like cavemen.

There are even countless girls which have a particular taste in making "chivalrous" guys wait for sex while they do their best to get what they can, in many cases they get pleasure from sucking more and more.

When it comes of dating and sex its women making the rules and guys adjusting their behaviour to fit, not the other way around.

Anyway we all go back to the main point, if you're a goodlooking cool guy you get sex, if now you dont...if you're a top dog no matter what you do you're right if you're average or below no matter how chivalrous you are you'll still be left with blue balls.

Again women when talk about "men" consider only top dogs those who get laid, chivalrous nice guys are not even considered indirectly when stats or surveys are made.

My suggestion is, be a gentleman when she is a lady otherwise be a caveman not only for the final result but for your own dignity.

No comment on those cvnts which commented this article as sexist in that forum, you perferctly fit the hookup culture motivator.

 

[Wolfgang D]

Any thoughts??

http://elitedaily.com/dating/sex/why-chivalry-is-dead-from-a-mans-perspective/

I don't want to be rude, but I would suggest posting something about the contents of a story, instead of just a link. Making an OP with just a link is, I have to say, lazy, and will give the issue far less readers. If it is an issue worthy of discussion, then it is an issue worthy of a few bullet points in the OP. There are too many of these link-and-run threads in forums. Let's make an effort!


Now, as for the story: the writer generalizes all the way through like a bulldozer, because his essay can't stand otherwise. Example: "Dating is done. Seriously, who goes on dates anymore? It’s all about hooking up, getting a number, grabbing a drink and getting down." -- Who goes on dates anymore? Umm ... me, today? Then I come home and read this. Funny.

"What happened to walking on the outside, closest to the street and all that sh*t?" -- I do that, and women like it. So yeah. Enough with the generalization.

"The real problem here is that women, for one reason or another, have become complacent and allowed men to get away with adhering to the bare minimum. We no longer have to put in the effort of flowers, chocolates, dates, etc.," -- That's not the only "romance". You can be romantic without trying to buy a girl's affection on the first dates. (You will still probably pay for coffee or drinks - just not anything in a heart-shaped package.) I strongly doubt a guy showed up with flowers and chocolate on a first, second or third date a hundred years ago. Watch an Audrey Hepburn movie. Do you see any of that? No.

I'm definitely a romantic but I've never done any of that **** although I'd love to. But there's no room for ****ing up when you're trying to ****. Article is spot on

But **** **** do ******* their ******* by ******* their ***** a **** and ******** **** when ***** on * ****.

Best regards,

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[Solomon]

All I know is, the more I look around, the less I see men treating women the way that we’re raised to. What happened to paying for dinners and drinks? What happened to pulling out chairs and holding doors? What happened to walking on the outside, closest to the street and all that sh*t? Where did we lose the chivalrous touch?

We lost the "chialvrous" touched when women decided to go full-blast hypergamous and become sluts and *****s

Modern women don't respond to chivalry and dont deserve it anyway. The real debate is whether women in the past ever did.

Meh no point aruging about the past

PrettyboyAJ mentioned that if a chick is an 8 or lower he doesn't take them out on dates, I'm not a pretty boy so I say 6 or lower.

The guy who wrote this sounds like a feminist. I urge all men to always invite women to their house no matter how hot. Escalate and put your cawk in her mouth, if she refuses fine...

If she doesn't bang away.

Save money, and please don't save hoes!

 

[thatfeel]

I say above all be kind and gentle to all those who cross your path. My thoughts on the article are that it was probably a reflection of a deeply rooted but not necessarily serious insecurity the author surrounding decisions he's made and actions he displayed.

 

[user name]

I say above all be kind and gentle to all those who cross your path. My thoughts on the article are that it was probably a reflection of a deeply rooted insecurity but not necessarily serious the author surrounding decisions he's made and actions he displayed.

Nonsense.

Too much mercy leads to weakness as does too much severity leads to cruelty.

There must be balance.

 

[VladPatton]

What a crap article. First he's saying what happened to being a chivalrous man, and then at the halfway mark he switches it up and becomes feministic:

"Eventually, I feel that women will wise up and start asking for the things that they deserve"

Now he is complaining how men don't put in the effort anymore. Uh, what? Make up your mind, douche.

The reason chivalry is dead, is because women killed it!!
-Dave Chappelle, Killing Them Softly

 

[HalfAddict]

I feel the writer is completely off kilter by basically saying women are the victims here due to letting me get away with unchivalrous acts. Does he not realize that the majority of women seem to be disgusted by these acts?

I perform them anyways for the most part, simply because I want to. This is neither here nor there.

"Eventually, I feel that women will wise up and start asking for the things that they deserve, the things used to be automatic and expected of men, like holding a door, pulling out a chair, and paying for dinners."


Pray tell, why do they deserve this treatment, when they themselves ensure they do not deserve it?

 

[HyperAnalyze]

Well the funny thing is that women killed it and they didn't even know that they did.

Until women start giving men the attention and respect of those who act like gentlemen, then we will continue doing what we have been doing.

I'm not going to start taking girls out on dates, and supplicating their reality to try and be a "hero" of today's society. Chivalry has been curb-stomped in this day and age.

 

[sylvester the cat]

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[Aristippus]

This article is wrong on about 100 levels. This is an example of the blind leading the blind and I'll explain why. His article is nothing special. Nothing new. It's simply an article trying to rebuke and shame other men, written by a clueless man. He sounds like a complaining woman. And we all know that many women will complain no matter how good they have it.

Now onto the real issue, because the article got nowhere near even scratching the surface. First of all, let's use the definition of chivalry the way the article uses it. Kindnesses shown by men towards women. There's nothing wrong with showing kindness to people. I think it's a good thing.

Who Dares Wins ALMOST got the point but then he deviated from it and missed the mark......

****THE REAL PROBLEM "Women not only dont reward chivarly but often punish it"


He misses the point when he says women punish chivalry by keeping their legs closed. There are a lot of women out there who are having sex with their men but don't appreciate his kindnesses and courteous behavior. These women repay the kindnesses shown by being rude, difficult, stubborn, disrespectful, and unappreciative, whether they are having sex with the man or not.

Sex should never be viewed as some precious commodity that the woman either lets you have access to or doesn't. It should be viewed as something that a man and a woman who are attracted to each other enjoy. If either the man or the woman involved views it any differently, then something is wrong.

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I like to be kind and courteous but I do it my own way. I'm "chivalrous" on my own terms. One time I remember I was walking with a woman and she said I should walk on the outside of the sidewalk instead of the inside. I get to choose which side of the sidewalk I walk on but since she wasn't mean about it but just automatically following a custom, she wanted me to do it as kind of a "sign" that we were together.

I was actually walking on the inside of the sidewalk because the inside is closest to people's yards and I wanted to be able to kick, attack, or scare off a dog if one tried to charge us. I figured the likelihood of us being charged by a dog was a lot greater than the possibility of a car jumping the curb.

I didn't feel like I had to but I chose to be protective. There's the difference. Feeling like you're ENTITLED to special treatment versus appreciating good treatment. That's where women killed chivalry, because with many women, the more you do for them, the less they appreciate it and the more that they expect.

The man (and I use the term "man" loosely) who wrote the article, sings the same tune as the whining, unappreciative, disrespectful, nagging woman who has spent her entire life receiving kind treatment and then repaying that kind treatment with disrespectful behavior and snide remarks. As if she weren't receiving enough kindnesses to begin with, she not only wants more, but expects to be able to bite the hand that feeds her and for the owner of that hand to not only not complain, but to like it and to come back for more.

Not once in that article did he mention that women need to behave like ladies. And THAT, my friends, is where we come back full circle. Women must be held to a certain standard of behavior. I think most men are too desperate and act like desperate fools, then they think they can sprinkle in a little bit of chivalry with their desperate, unattractive behavior and mindset, they overdo it and expect that miraculously the woman will want to be with him.

They don't display kindness on their own terms. So I guess to be more accurate, it wasn't just women that killed chivalry. It was the desperate, spineless men who also killed it. You've trained the disrespectful women to stay that way and the good ones, you've damaged them by giving away too freely, with no negative consequences or discipline for bad behavior. You can cause problematic behaviors in any good animal by simply providing no negative consequence for problem behavior, and the same applies to humans too, male or female. You can perpetuate problematic behaviors in otherwise good people by not punishing wrong actions.

Let's look at the REAL DEFINITION OF CHIVALRY:

qualities of an ideal knight: the combination of qualities expected of the ideal medieval knight, especially courage, honor, loyalty, and consideration for others

 

[TheODB]

Chivalry is dead is because it is an arbitrary set of social rules that emerged in a time when women were treated like high functioning children. It's also dead because even the most "traditional" woman will have sex with you (and in many cases even date you long-term) if you demonstrate that you know what you're doing. I've been in two long-term relationships (currently in one now) but in between those I banged double the number of women that I actually took out on dates. How and why? I chose NOT to date in a traditional manner, but still managed to create and/or increase their attraction to me in other ways.

 

[Darth]

Chivalry is dead because of feminism.

Screw feminism.

 

[sylvester the cat]

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[skinnyguy]

"if you take a girl out and show her you’re more than some douche looking to just get in her pants, odds are, you’re going to get a second date, at least. "

lol.

If you take her out to dinner you'll be seen as a pvssy. And she won't fvck you. If you don't fvck her on the first date, you're done.

 

[Wolfgang D]

Chivalry is dead is because it is an arbitrary set of social rules that emerged in a time when women were treated like high functioning children.

You say that because you have been brainwashed by the leftists who run the public schools. And by feminist Hollywood TV shows. Time to wake up and learn some real history.

 

[HyperAnalyze]

"if you take a girl out and show her you’re more than some douche looking to just get in her pants, odds are, you’re going to get a second date, at least. "

lol.

If you take her out to dinner you'll be seen as a pvssy. And she won't fvck you. If you don't fvck her on the first date, you're done.

I think you are going to the extremes there.

Not every woman wants to get impaled on the first date.