"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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"Why Beautiful Women Marry Less Attractive Men"

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persistent exaction said:
She wasn't in the movie. She was interviewed, the topic of the movie came up, and she said she basically wanted to "do" William Dafoes character. Yeah the guy with NO TEETH.
You'd be surprised, A chick I know thinks William Dafoe is the bees knees, and lets face it, he's pretty cool.

Sgt. Elias: I love this place at night. The stars... there's no right or wrong in them. They're just there.
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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You'd be surprised, A chick I know thinks William Dafoe is the bees knees, and lets face it, he's pretty cool.

Sgt. Elias: I love this place at night. The stars... there's no right or wrong in them. They're just there.

have you seen him in Wild at Heart? :D
 

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She wasn't in the movie. She was interviewed, the topic of the movie came up, and she said she basically wanted to "do" William Dafoe's character. Yeah the guy with NO TEETH.
Obviously I don't know what youre talking about lol. Anyway, SP is a powerful thing. But my point is what causes SP isn't originally SP in the first place. It's a self feeding postive loop though. You can take the SP away from a guy and he'll just rebuild it. Give a guy SP and he'll lose it.
 

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you have to see the movie to get the point. :D
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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ketostix said:
OK but you're going to have to define game when you say on top if his game. My definition right now is you must have the foundation x factor of expressiveness and smoothness before you can add anything else on and make it work.
Alright, I'm confused now. I thought you said the X-Factor was "Symmetry"? But here you're saying it's "expressiveness and smoothness".

Anyhow, I define "game" just as you said prior: "smoothness and expressiveness"...everything from what you say; how you say it; gestures; voicetone; confidence; eye contact; standing poist(not slouching or looking insecure); ****y/sarcastic/funny humour; intelligence; being interesting; being a ton of fun; showing her you're cultured; not acting clingy; not acting needy; conveying indirectly to her that you have other options at the moment and are currently f*cking other women, and have no trouble getting women; conveying to her you'll walk away at any time; conveying to her that you don't need her, she needs you(you're the prize); no you're "hot/beautiful" compliments(only if she asks, but even then, you should use that sparingly), not showing her she gets you angry, standing your ground and not taking sh*t if she starts getting catty(but it has to be done in a way where you don't show it makes you feel bad or gets to you); not acting jealous, etc. etc.

I can't think of everything at the moment, but those are the most components of "game" that I can come up with right off the bat at this time.
 

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Alright, I'm confused now. I thought you said the X-Factor was "symmetry"? But here you're saying it's "expressiveness and smoothness".

Anyhow, I define "game" just as you said prior: "smoothness and expressiveness"...everything from what you say; how you say it; gestures; voicetone; confidence; eye contact; standing poist(not slouching or looking insecure); ****y/sarcastic/funny humour; intelligence; being interesting; being a ton of fun; showing her you're cultured; not acting clingy; not acting needy; conveying indirectly to her that you have other options at the moment and are currently f*cking other women, and have no trouble getting women; conveying to her you'll walk away at any time; conveying to her that you don't need her, she needs you(you're the prize); no you're "hot/beautiful" compliments(only if she asks, but even then, you should use that sparingly), not showing her she gets you angry, standing your ground and not taking sh*t if she starts getting catty(but it has to be done in a way where you don't show it makes you feel bad or gets to you); not acting jealous, etc. etc.

I'm sure there's more I forgot to add. I can't think of everything at the moment, but those are the most components of "game" that I can come up with right off the bat at this time.
No I said x factor was expressiveness and smoothness that may also require that you have symmetry, but symmetry wasn't the main thing. That's where it starts and if, and only if, you have the x factor does the other things in the list of game you made matter and can be implimented.
 

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ketostix said:
No I said x factor was expressiveness and smoothness that may also require that you have symmetry, but symmetry wasn't the main thing. That's where it starts and if, and only if, you have the x factor does the other things in the list of game you made matter and can be implimented.
"Expressiveness and smoothness" are the components of "game" that I listed; the two being the same, as far as I'm concerned.
 

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ketostix said:
Yeah thats cool. What kind of answers have you been getting?
I'll get back too you on this tomorrow..I need to get to bed right now, I have to be at work tomorrow.
 

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Teeth or not (and I think he's just got manky ones, not none), Willem Dafoes character in Wild At Heart is a handsome, sexy, sleazy borderline rapist. He promises sick and dangerous sex. This is a common female fantasy.

It is also well known that Willem Dafoe is hung like a donkey.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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I have a theory as to why the mainstream media wants men to be like women:

Women spend more. Women are compulsive shoppers. If a woman has control of a man's finances, she spends more money = more profit!

Makes perfect sense
It may seem silly, but I GUARANDAMNTEE you, if you follow the money trail, you will get to the root of the problem.

This feminine sh1t was derived somewhere for marketing purposes. DeBeers, Kay, etc. And now that there are plenty of AFC's out there, these articles are prevalent because the writers know that's what the AFC's want to hear.
 

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Beautiful women? I'm willing to bet the women who were surveys were not that beautiful, probably at most mid-range, with most being overweight or 4s-5s "settling" for some weak male who support them.

I have no problem with this, it's who these women believe are compatible with and that's that. Mismatch does not equate perfect match. It just means that the man (in most cases) thinks he can't do better or he just plain sucks in settling for whatever that's entertaining him.

I want my woman independent, eccentric, and attractive to me. I also want her to allow me to conquer her mentality and physically because a real woman allows and wants that.
 

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The fact is though, is that most HOT women are with avg. to below avg. looking guys. Mostly BELOW avg. looking guys.
I think the answer is simple. As reported in the NY Times back on 8/2/2006:

Why Do Beautiful Women Sometimes Marry Unattractive Men?

By Stephen J. Dubner

"A new study by Satoshi Kanazawa, an evolutionary psychologist at the London School of Economics, suggests it may be a simple supply-and-demand issue: there are more beautiful women in the world than there are handsome men."

Duh.

So, I'm in a hopping place in my town last night - Thursday nights seem to be the new singles night everywhere - and see a throng of mostly 20 to 30-something stout, average looking, balding young men with large white striped untucked shirts and wrinkled blue jeans, one hand stuffed in their pants pocket while the other grasps a bottle of Bud Light (I call them "Drones"), and the women are talking to them, how can I not conclude that it's either these guys or nothing at all for these women?
 

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wrinkled blue jeans, one hand stuffed in their pants pocket while the other grasps a bottle of Bud Light (I call them "Drones")
Lol, that used to be me. Still is kind of. At least I'm aware of it.

More attractive women than men. Never heard that statistic. I thought attractive women were a precious commodity that we had to fight over. Indeed, die for if necessary.
 

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mostly 20 to 30-something stout, average looking, balding young men with large white striped untucked shirts and wrinkled blue jeans, one hand stuffed in their pants pocket while the other grasps a bottle of Bud Light (I call them "Drones"), and the women are talking to them, how can I not conclude that it's either these guys or nothing at all for these women?
Hey you jerk, I resemble that remark!

http://s282.photobucket.com/albums/kk254/motorcitymack/?action=view&current=000_0002.jpg

And you forgot "drunk as hell" LOL
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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I think the article left out a key word in that they want a "supportive husband."

That would be FINANCIALLY supportive husband. Without the $$$, Billy Joel isn't bagging Christy Brinkley, the lead singer of the cars doesn't marry that Sports Illustrated swimsuit model, David Spade doesn't b-ng the chicks he does. Without the $$$ or notoriety, those guys are average Joe's married to hometown Betty, the ****tail waitress.
 

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There was a horrible call on Dr. Laura the other day, a married woman called up and asked if you don't love your husband, what can you do. That she married because of the security but doesn't love him, and it's frustrating her. She wanted to know if it gets better. That she acts like she loves him but it doesn't feel right.

Blew my mind.
 

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Luveno said:
Women spend more. Women are compulsive shoppers. If a woman has control of a man's finances, she spends more money = more profit!
Yeah dude. It's a conspiracy!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

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"Men are very sensitive to women's attractiveness. Women seem to be sensitive to men's height and salary," said Ariely, who was not involved in the recent study.

HAHAHAHAH. Emphasis on SALARY.

I see this all the time. Beautiful women, rich guys. The story is NOT that he offers her EMO support. The story is that he supports her Nieman-Marcus habit, her pedicure needs, her organic all-natural skin care fetish... I saw this with my parents. However, I wouldn't want to be them. If a woman is with you for the money, she's not really that satisfied, and she will make your life miserable. That is why the smart guys marry avg. girls who will work hard to keep them -- and staff the office with hot young eye candy.
 

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Keto, you wanted to know the answers I've been getting when I've asked the ugly/dweeb guys how they've pulled the hot babes they're with?

Well to be honest with you, I've only asked one guy. I didn't mean to make it sound like I've asked a bunch of guys the question. But anyhow, I asked this dude I used to jam with. This guy wasn't even a serious musician, just composed tunes on guitar as a hobby, so it's not like she went for him for that. Let me give you a little background on this guy. I've actually posted about him before, way back 2 yrs ago. Anyway, this guy was 32, smelt like f*ckin' piss(no joke), didn't work(when I knew him he was receiving unemployment and I think getting money from the gov't for being in the military), wouldn't even make eye contact with you when he spoke to people, he'd look down at the ground(he did this with his hot girlfriend too), and he'd stutter(not making fun of him for that, but I always thought women got turned off by stutterers) and jump from one topic to the next when he spoke it seemed. He'd completely loose me in conversations. Anyhow, I never really asked him directly how he pulled his woman, but I was told by his friend that one night they were at a party, and they were all sitting down outside in the yard, and this girl out of nowhere blurted out "I like you" to him. Don't forget, this is a guy with the characteristics that I mentioned above, and this woman is hot. She's a hot 38 Paralegal chick.

According to his friend, that wasn't the only hot girlfriend he had, he had one other prior to this one.

I've made it a point though from now on to ask these ugly/dweeb guys how they pulled their hot women, whenever the oportunity arises during conversations.
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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