"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Why Be A Player?

oakraiderz2

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thederekeffect1 said:
So, I've noticed over time that the majority of this board feels the need to be a player. Having three or four women feeding out of the palm of their hand at a given time and speaking the word "relationship" is almost like hell freezing over. Everyone stops and gasps. "He did not just say 'relationship'. No! No! You did not just say that!".

It was after reading Vlad The Impalers post, "I Think I Got Dumped". He talked about seeing this woman off and on for a couple of months and after penkitten gave him a little advice, he says, "I only want this woman for sex". It was after reading this post that it came to me.

Why does everyone want to be a player versus meeting women for a relationship? Why should I choose to be a player instead of finding one woman that I really like and taking the relationship challenge? Just curious.

I know, I know, "Derek... You've been on this forum for three years and you don't know anything yet? I oughta...". In my defense, I live in a town with a population of 2,000. Yeah, not a lot to work with there.
Have you ever been in a relationship? Everyone doesnt have a good experience and may have to put up with some sh*t that they would prefer not to deal with. A lot of the douchebags on this site also have a high level of angst towards women because of their inability to get any female attention. A good number of the individuals on this site have big egos and are pretty insecure, which is a dangerous combination. I never wanted a relationship because the last girl i dated was a wh*re psycho b*tch, i didnt want to be tied down and put up with gay sh*t, nor had i met a girl who tickled my fancy. Now ive found a girl who i would date and probably will cause shes f*ckin gnarly. The guys who do want relationships try too hard to find a girl, fail, get pissed off, and develop a sense of disdain for women, resulting in the thought of being a player and hurting women.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Vlad the Impaler said:
If you find one that is worthy of a LTR then go ahead and do it. I'm just having fun window shopping right now.

You know all the women spin plates right? These days they probably have 5 suckers begging them for a date all at once.

It's time for some revenge. They've been playing me my whole life.

haha thats the way i felt for the longest time. and still do! payback's a bitc$.
 

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To me, this site really has little to do with women. It is about us. It is about bettering ourselves. It is about making us the prize. Optimally, we should make ourselves so good that the women come to us, and we don't even need to worry about them.

I am on this site in order to stop being an AFC in life and turn out better, to turn into a real man. Getting the ladies is only icing on the cake. If I better my life, I won't NEED any woman.
 

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Rebound Material said:
Alright, hands down: I noticed that common trend on this site too ever since I came here. Spin multiple plates/Have many options/or basically have back up chicks. I believe its because most of the ppl on here are:

1) Trying NOT to get oneitis
2) Are AFRAID to get hurt(judging that they've been hurt in the past)
3) Trying NOT to get oneitis
4) Are AFRAID to invest feelings in someone in the worst case scenario that they may get fcuked over.
5) TRYING NOT TO GET FCUKING ONEITIS.

Don't get me wrong. Its great advice and all but I think it comes in the position of fear. Putting yourself out there IS part of the game and of course you've got your pros and cons when you do risk it. I think Im in the verge of ranting and getting sleepy ass hell so Im just gonna finish here. GO FOR IT!
they say spin multiple plates is for 3 reasons..

One- You will keep the girls longer because you will not seem desperate. You will not spend too much time with one girl and will not beg her for sex all the time thus making her want you more.

Two- If a girl is acting up you can quickly next her because you have backups.

Three- Well who can forget that having sex with 2-3 different girls is better than having sex with one. If you have sex with same girl for 1-2 years chances are you will get bored.
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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I want to be in CONTROL of my life so I can choose to **** 500 girls or have a relationship, whenever I want.

Simple.
 
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