Why are young girls so scared of 1 on 1 interaction?

[Trendsetter]

I'm talking about girls in age ranges of 23 and below. It's retarded how much they'll go out of their way not to be in a one on one (happy hr for example) situation.

Now I've had no problem getting girls older than that out, it's rather easy but with young girls, it seems like they are scared. I have my intuitions but I guess just trying to get feedback. I'll throw out a few examples.

First girl is 22, I know she is attracted to me because its obvious. I met her out, asked for her number the second time I saw her out, she said she was kind of seeing someone. 20 minutes later, she OFFERED me her number, saying, "I know I said I'm seeing someone but you seem cool" WTF. Ok so I txt her build comfort then ask her out, seems like when I asked her out, the txts were fewer n far between, like she was scared or something. Anyway of course we never hung out so I deleted her number. The SAME girl I see out four months later, wonders why I didn't txt her after that and OFFERS me her number again. WTF. This time I say, "well umm, r u sure, I'm trying to kick it with you this time, so dont give me ur number if you don't intend on hanging out with me" she gives it to me, we txt back n forth, I txt her to hang out, same $hit happens again, she agrees to hang out Tuesday, of course I don't hear $hit from her on Monday night, so I just say "I'll stop bothering you, take care." Of course she txts back, "your not bothering me I just woke up and had a kidney infection." Fair enough but where the fvck is the counter offer I get from chicks that are 23+ lol. Of course the week prior, I get a txt to hang out with her and ehr friends at the club and was invited out with her friends to go to the river. No I'm not txting her again.

How about this situation. This was a social circle lay where I was practically begged to come out and meet my friends g/fs friend, we meet and she's digging me asking "why are you so hot" and all this stuff. i end up having sex with her at like 6 am after some serious LMR. Now this chick is pissing me off, she's 22 by the way. She constantly texts me, even asking me, how my day is going 3-4 times to the point where I just ignored one of them and she texted me "sorry if i'm bothering you." I even told my buddy, ya this chick loves texting but it doesnt seem like shes comfortable hanging out. She hasn't even offered to see me and whenever I bring it up she doesn't seem excited abt it. WTF. Of course I tell her we need to kick it, txts come fewer and less frequent again, keep in mind, I already had sex with this girl n she came in like 3 minutes lol. So she usually texts me right after I text her. So I say around 2 "well im off at 5, I should be ready by 6, will you be free around 630?" She texts me 3.5 hours later with a bull$hit excuse "oh um, one of my coworkers is going home sick so Im staying late, so sorry" whatever, no counter offer. I just said "k" n left it at that. Of course when it's meeting friends at the club, or going out with their friends, it's no big deal. Even had a girl ask me to hang out then offered me to leave my house and meet her at her friends house to hang out with her , her friend and her bf. The bf even told me that he wasn't trying to hang out with her, even his girlfriend didn't wanna hang with her, so she ended up just staying home lol. She could have kicked it with me, she obviously likes me, her friend told me this. This girl is barely 21 by the way

I have some other stories but my point is what is up with this $hit? Seems to me these chicks are scared of one on one interaction, maybe their social skills arent up to par. I know how nerve wracking it may be for them but I'm very good about making those situations comfortable for both parties. Older chicks usually counter offer or just hang out, n I don't really have this problem with ages 24 and up.

Any thoughts guys?

 

[ima str8 up pimp]

I've had similar experiences albeit I'm only 20 and still progressing and improving my own capabilities within the female psyche. I can honestly pinpoint though. The problem is obviously lack of trust. I've had sex with various girls me knowing I don't want them for a LTR.. These girls are smart. They feel what you think, they don't want to be hurt or feel like sluts in the long run, if they feel that all you desire is sex, part of their emotions will be hott for it and another part will say "He won't treat me like a lady." If she's already ****ed you (I've had that experience with around at least 25 girls probably off of the top of my head, that's where I excel is catching a girl in the heat of the moment.) In other words, I have my priorities straight in what I want in a girl, if she doesn't measure up (Only maybe 2, certainly 1 have... all just around 40 hooked up with that is.) she will sense it, yeah she'll **** me because she kissed me so thats too late whats done is done...

Call me a certified player... I'm progressing and improving my game to the ism of pimpin', I'm a dark skin Mexican just trying to do positive things and get something out of it. Stay down and dirty for real... Chuch.

 

[Jitterbug]

This is typical of young girls these days. Here's how they usually hook up with guys: they "hang out" on a large social night, find a guy they like within their social circle, get drunk together and then make out or fvck. After that, it's decided, in unspoken terms, whether it's an ONS or a relationship. They don't do dates, and you are correct that it's because they have poor social skills and don't really have the confidence to meet with someone one-on-one. So much for all that empowering crap they are brainwashed with at school.

Of course there are some who want to be asked on a proper date, and they're usually the ones trying to act older, but the typical young girl will not do that. It's not hard to read which type she is.

I know how nerve wracking it may be for them but I'm very good about making those situations comfortable for both parties.

Only when she actually gets there, but you can't do much in the build-up before that. The younger ones I've dated, even those who are highly interested in me, will flake because they're too nervous in the build-up to the date. There are things you can do, but they're not very effective like what you can do in person.

So I'd advise to stick with how the game is played. Hang out with them instead of taking them out on dates. If you want to do one-on-one, take her on an insta-date right there when you're hanging out with her & others, instead of calling her later to make arrangements.

Like you, I don't have this problem with 25 year olds or older.

 

[Trendsetter]

pimp, jitterbug, I appreciate the feedback.

That was my intuition all along. Poor social skills. I'm guessing they've maybe had awkward experiences or whatever or they fear i'm the guy that'll talk about nothing and make it awkward, which is why they always want to hang out with them and their friends...which also makes it tough to escalate and isolate them. However this contradicts some of the stuff I've been taught, to not hang out with girls when they're with their friends because there's another set of eyes judging your every move. I kept thinking it was because I wasn't 'gaming' right until I had sex with one and she was STILL scared to hang out, but will text me to the point that I run out of my unlimited text messages lol, that's what drove me to posting this message.

So I'd advise to stick with how the game is played. Hang out with them instead of taking them out on dates.

I don't do dates either, in the sense of having dinner and going to a movie. I usually just ask them to come kick it n grab a couple of drinks with me lol. I try to make it sound as chill as possible to take away that 'date' vibe. Still doesn't work. I may just ask them to just come to my apt n kick it with me, although I don't see that working too well. If they're too scared to go on a date, why would they come over n kick it.

Of course the older ones could care less, probably because they're more ready to settle than the younger ones that are just turning 21 and are just happy to party. I kind of see it as weeding out the ones that I probably won't like. Confidence is a turn on anyway.

I guess I'll just keep playing the #'s game then.

 

[guywhoneedshelp]

I kinda just wanted to post and say I read your thread and it made a lot of sense to me. I will mention though that things do seem to have gotten easier for me as time I've gotten older (I'm 21)

 

[Trendsetter]

My fiance is 22.. I met her when she was 19... I hooked up with her on the second night so I think your problem is... you don't have enough game yet dude.

lol great feedback.

 

[FutureSpartan]

x2 Jitter good post.

This is pretty much dead on where I go to school. Its a suburban commuter college.

Most girls here either have boyfriends, are looking for a serious relationship (no sex), or won't hang out with you, much less f*ck you, unless they know you through mutual acquaintances. Basically like high school all over again.

I speak this from experience, I have approached and been flaked on numerous times by girls on/around campus. The ones I manage to go out with want a serious relationship, so they play the usual "make the guy wait" when it comes to sex. Its gotten so frustrating that the girl im hanging with now who is doing the same crap, i pretty much ignore her calls and texts.

I've come to realize that in my environment, half the battle is being in the right circles where you get exposed to the hot college chicks on a constant basis, and then like Jitterbug said, letting the sex "just happen" so she can rationalize "oh we got drunk and hooked up" later and not feel like a sl ut .

Most of the people I hang with don't have a slew of hot lady friends that are available. Plus I live with my parents which puts me at a disadvantage compared to guys that have their own apartment/dorm near campus. I don't get invited to a lot of parties, and frankly would'nt be able to right now anyways because i have my greuling certification exam to study for. So I have kind of resigned myself to the "f*cked" status temporarily until I move out and get exposed to the older professional women.

 

[DonJuanit0]

I am 21 and I had a "LTR" 3 years ago with a girl 2 years younger than me!
These days I met her again and she has become a HB 9 18 years old woman! I got really surprised and even though it was 2-2.5 years we hadn't talk at all I tried to go out with her! Results:

1st time) I ask her on a date, she doesn't answer at all, sending a message next day saying that she couldn't meet me! I learnt from a friend she was with her girl friends out doing nothin but what they always do, so I thought, she doesn't like you don't try harder on a 18 years old girl
2nd time) She sends me a message out of the blue saying that I've become such a nice man and starts to remember what happened in the past, so I ask her out again... Couldn't make it AGAIN! I am like wtf is wrong with this girl?
3rd time) It's today!! It's 7 am here in Greece now and we've planned to go out at night for a drink! I saw her in a cafe early in the noon yesterday and sat with her and her company for a while after I got invited! So, I get back from work today and have an email saying: "You were really handsome today I hope I can make it for tonight but I am not sure cause something occured so its not sure... Kisses..."
I am 80% sure that she'll cancel on me!

The thing is, I DO know she likes me, I DO know she wants to go out with me, or else I wouldn't continue trying with her... It's really confusing for me and I hope I'll see her tonight...

 

[DonJuanit0]

I'm 20. Does that mean I shouldn't ask girls out because they're likely to say no just cuz they're afraid of interaction?

lol! People get killed because there are drunk drivers out there, should I stop going out?

It's just a thing we've noticed and it's a discussion forum!