Why are ugly chicks different to hot chicks about...

[AtomicDog]

... looks?

See lately I found when Im talking to ugly chicks (i.e. 6 and below) they seem attracted and I get compliments about my looks. Like one girl said I look like one of the backstreet boys.

But the hotter girls tend to mostly ignore me.

So this has got me thinking... one of the following might be true:

1) I actually look GOOD, but because looks aren't a high priority for more picky females, it doesn't quite work

2) I actually DON'T look so good, but because ugly girls expect less, I look like a model to them.

... or try this ...

3) What the hotter females consider "good looking" is different from what uglier girls would.

Anyway I'm probably guilty of the "overthinking" sin, but I just wanted to throw this out there and see if anyone can relate.

 

[EFFORT]

Your value is a lot higher to the ugly chicks and they can feel your indifference to them. Your not coming off high value to the hotter chicks if there ignoring you, they have a lot options and your just another guy that wants something from her, you gotta stand out.

 

[Tha Realnezz]

I actually DON'T look so good, but because ugly girls expect less, I look like a model to them.

:nono: lol...common misconception.Infact they have higher standards some are just more realstic and vocal about it.

I tend to stay in the seven and eight range,ugly girls have more issues than pretty ones..they usually despise men as well.

 

[backbreaker]

all women have issues.. I don't trust something that bleeds once a month.

 

[speakeasy]

I agree with Realnezz. I think a 7 or 8 is perfect. I'd be perfectly cool with a 7. The thing is, even a 6 if she's got a lot of things I like about her can become a 9 in my mind. I wouldn't even want a 10. An HB10 is like a Ferrari to me, would be nice to drive one around for a day, but not something I'd want to own, too much maintenance, too costly and not too practical. I want a girl that's the equivalent of an Acura. Reliable, nice looking, not too flashy and still practical.

As to the OP's question, I think it's pretty self-evident. The higher women are on the ladder, the better you have to look to get their attention. People generally don't go for someone who is below them lookswise. A man that's a 9 is NEVER EVER going to be a woman that isn't at least a 9. On the other hand, a woman that's a 9 will date a guy below her if he makes up for the deficit in in status. Even still, that HB10 is not going to see a guy walking down the street that's a 6 and give him the eye. It just doesn't work that way. She will give the eye that Calvin Klein model looking guy because he is at her level.

If you want a realistic gauge of how attractive you are, forget hotornot.com, just look at the quality of women that give you the eye(assuming they don't know anything about you or infer that you or automatically have some high status). Just put on normal clothes, walk through an area with a lot of girls and see who makes eye contact and smiles, it can be eye-opening. If only unattractive girls look at you, then you are probably not that attractive yourself.

 

[Obsidian]

nice, that makes me feel better because my hotornot rating has been falling F*ck that website



But for the record, Atomic Dog (cool name), looks don't matter much.

 

[Tha Realnezz]

all women have issues.. I don't trust something that bleeds once a month.

Yeah but the one at the very top and the ones in the bottom are the worst and have the worst problem.

Extra-beautiful women are promiscous and are surronded by men 24-7 and are pressured into dating wealthy men.If you dont have money or arent in their range you dont wanna get too deep with top models cuz they will **** up the relationship cuz they wanna explore their options and they want that cake,quite frankly.

On top of that alot of them have been molested or abused by some azzhole and think they're ugly...

With ugly chics they have a complex where they overcompensate their feminity hoping men overlook their physical appearance.

They are extra gossipy,extra mean,and play games and take offense to the slighest comment made by men.Most just flat out hate our guts for obvious reasons..

All women have mental issues but the models and the dogs are worse,you want something in between or high not extra high or ugly..

 

[Nighthawk]

Hotties are more likely to have got bored with looks, and are looking for rarer qualities - balls.

http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=102590

There are some that say super-hotties should be treated no different to a plain-Jane, and there's some truth in that. Certainly you should never think 'ooh, this chicks is so classy and beautiful I must put her on at least an itty bitty pedestal surely,' like I see most people do all the time. They don't even realise they are doing it, but their eagerness to please and fear of offending are clearly displayed. and this submissiveness instantly disqualifies them from being a sexual proposition in the mind of the uber-fox.

Some might think they know a hottie who is an exception to these generalisations, but in my experience they are very rare. It's much more likely that you are being fooled by her sweet act and angelic face.

Hot women have a totally different life experience to regular people. They can generally get whatever they want by fluttering their eyelashes, and this power corrupts many of them, especially when they are young and stupid. Some will be having too much fun collecting gifts and free food and drinks from their circle of AFCs supplicants to realise that they will get more pleasure from being dominated by a real man, but it is something they all discover sooner or later.

They often gravitate towards thugs, jerks or criminals. This isn't always because they are bad people, but because they are so BORED of the 99% of men who kiss their asss 24/7 that any man with some backbone is irresistible. It is non-jerky thug man's fault they are driven to these types, because they really do prefer a man they can trust if possible. But they crave the most genuinely confident, dominant man they can find, and the bad-boy is usually a safe bet (although they often find they can pussify these types too).

They will test fast and big-time to see if you have the balls to challenge them. Pass this test and you are already ahead of 99% of the competition.

Rarely if ever compliment them on their looks. They know they are hot and they are pretty sure you know it. Keep them guessing.

I'm going to repeat my list of words and phrases that turn on HB9/10s.

"No"

"Shut up."

"You're a retard."

"You're not as stupid as you look."

"Just do it.

Get it yourself you lazy bytch."

"We'll see. If you're a good girl."

"Bend over."


If you can't understand why any one would get a sexual thrill from being talked to like that, that's because you're not a cosseted little madam who hasn't been held accountable for her actions by a man since she learnt how to wrap daddy/teacher/traffic cop/the jury/ round her little finger.

All women want to be fucked, today if possible, and hotties are often the most frustrated because they so rarely feel they are getting a fair deal. There are far more women who know how to make themselves 10s in the eyes of a man there there are men who understand what a woman desires most. This is to your advantage.

A powerful woman wants a powerful mate. Power comes in many forms, and intelligence, ambition, principals and talent command respect - if they are displayed correctly. Musicians and artists get very hot women, even if they are ugly, poor and frankly rubbish. It's the creative urge and the confidence to express yourself that is attractive.

Everything I've said must be underlined in the bedroom. Or better, up against the wall. The hotter a woman is, the more she enjoys being spanked, tied-up, being called a whore. etc. Don't blame me, that's the way it is. Just remember it's supposed to be fun not creepy.

There are those who say that a 9/10 is too much work and they are more comfortable with an easier-going 7 or 8 and I totally understand that. A lot of 9s and 10s are totally unsuitable for a LTR for example, and are best for non-exclusive fvck-buddys.

But there are also 9s & 10s who are not bitches, who long for a strong, trustworthy, decent man to love and cherish - but he must also satisfy her sexual need to be dominated and constantly challenged. Anything less just isn't enough.

 

[Micheal Moon]

Hotties are more likely to have got bored with looks, and are looking for rarer qualities - balls.

http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=102590

There are some that say super-hotties should be treated no different to a plain-Jane, and there's some truth in that. Certainly you should never think 'ooh, this chicks is so classy and beautiful I must put her on at least an itty bitty pedestal surely,' like I see most people do all the time. They don't even realise they are doing it, but their eagerness to please and fear of offending are clearly displayed. and this submissiveness instantly disqualifies them from being a sexual proposition in the mind of the uber-fox.

Some might think they know a hottie who is an exception to these generalisations, but in my experience they are very rare. It's much more likely that you are being fooled by her sweet act and angelic face.

Hot women have a totally different life experience to regular people. They can generally get whatever they want by fluttering their eyelashes, and this power corrupts many of them, especially when they are young and stupid. Some will be having too much fun collecting gifts and free food and drinks from their circle of AFCs supplicants to realise that they will get more pleasure from being dominated by a real man, but it is something they all discover sooner or later.

They often gravitate towards thugs, jerks or criminals. This isn't always because they are bad people, but because they are so BORED of the 99% of men who kiss their asss 24/7 that any man with some backbone is irresistible. It is non-jerky thug man's fault they are driven to these types, because they really do prefer a man they can trust if possible. But they crave the most genuinely confident, dominant man they can find, and the bad-boy is usually a safe bet (although they often find they can pussify these types too).

They will test fast and big-time to see if you have the balls to challenge them. Pass this test and you are already ahead of 99% of the competition.

Rarely if ever compliment them on their looks. They know they are hot and they are pretty sure you know it. Keep them guessing.

I'm going to repeat my list of words and phrases that turn on HB9/10s.

"No"

"Shut up."

"You're a retard."

"You're not as stupid as you look."

"Just do it.

Get it yourself you lazy bytch."

"We'll see. If you're a good girl."

"Bend over."


If you can't understand why any one would get a sexual thrill from being talked to like that, that's because you're not a cosseted little madam who hasn't been held accountable for her actions by a man since she learnt how to wrap daddy/teacher/traffic cop/the jury/ round her little finger.

All women want to be fucked, today if possible, and hotties are often the most frustrated because they so rarely feel they are getting a fair deal. There are far more women who know how to make themselves 10s in the eyes of a man there there are men who understand what a woman desires most. This is to your advantage.

A powerful woman wants a powerful mate. Power comes in many forms, and intelligence, ambition, principals and talent command respect - if they are displayed correctly. Musicians and artists get very hot women, even if they are ugly, poor and frankly rubbish. It's the creative urge and the confidence to express yourself that is attractive.

Everything I've said must be underlined in the bedroom. Or better, up against the wall. The hotter a woman is, the more she enjoys being spanked, tied-up, being called a whore. etc. Don't blame me, that's the way it is. Just remember it's supposed to be fun not creepy.

There are those who say that a 9/10 is too much work and they are more comfortable with an easier-going 7 or 8 and I totally understand that. A lot of 9s and 10s are totally unsuitable for a LTR for example, and are best for non-exclusive fvck-buddys.

But there are also 9s & 10s who are not bitches, who long for a strong, trustworthy, decent man to love and cherish - but he must also satisfy her sexual need to be dominated and constantly challenged. Anything less just isn't enough.

Damn great post man. Probably the one of if not THE best I've read on this subject.

 

[violator]

I agree with Realnezz. I think a 7 or 8 is perfect. I'd be perfectly cool with a 7. The thing is, even a 6 if she's got a lot of things I like about her can become a 9 in my mind. I wouldn't even want a 10. An HB10 is like a Ferrari to me, would be nice to drive one around for a day, but not something I'd want to own, too much maintenance, too costly and not too practical. I want a girl that's the equivalent of an Acura. Reliable, nice looking, not too flashy and still practical.

As to the OP's question, I think it's pretty self-evident. The higher women are on the ladder, the better you have to look to get their attention. People generally don't go for someone who is below them lookswise. A man that's a 9 is NEVER EVER going to be a woman that isn't at least a 9. On the other hand, a woman that's a 9 will date a guy below her if he makes up for the deficit in in status. Even still, that HB10 is not going to see a guy walking down the street that's a 6 and give him the eye. It just doesn't work that way. She will give the eye that Calvin Klein model looking guy because he is at her level.

If you want a realistic gauge of how attractive you are, forget hotornot.com, just look at the quality of women that give you the eye(assuming they don't know anything about you or infer that you or automatically have some high status). Just put on normal clothes, walk through an area with a lot of girls and see who makes eye contact and smiles, it can be eye-opening. If only unattractive girls look at you, then you are probably not that attractive yourself.

Good analysis but not necessarily so. If the above were true, then I am one ugly mother fycker, since about 70% of the women I notice who give me the eye are in the 5-6 range. In my younger days and living in NYC, I was scouted several times to be a fitness model. And today, I still get complements on my looks. So your theory that like attracts like, really does not jibe. I have gotten looks from very ugly to very beautiful women the only difference being that the more attractive women are much less obvious about it. You are more likely to catch a less attractive girl giving you the eye than you are an attractive one. if you really want to know the anser, read Nighthawks post below.

Based on my personal evaluation

 

[speakeasy]

Good analysis but not necessarily so. If the above were true, then I am one ugly mother fycker, since about 70% of the women I notice who give me the eye are in the 5-6 range. In my younger days and living in NYC, I was scouted several times to be a fitness model. And today, I still get complements on my looks. So your theory that like attracts like, really does not jibe. I have gotten looks from very ugly to very beautiful women the only difference being that the more attractive women are much less obvious about it. You are more likely to catch a less attractive girl giving you the eye than you are an attractive one. if you really want to know the anser, read Nighthawks post below.

Based on my personal evaluation

I don't think you contradicted anything I said. Assuming you are a good looking guy from what you say, you are going to get looks from a wide range of women, most these women will be average. Why? Because the distribution of attractive people in the population is a bell curve with most of us being heaped in the average range with the numbers thinning out as you head toward either extreme. So even if a guy is a perfect 10, most the women looking at him will be in the 5 range naturally, but he will also attract HB10s based on looks alone, even if it is relative few due to their scarcity in the population. However, a guy that's a 5 will attract NO attention from HB10s based on his physical attraction alone. Now if the guy is having a hard time attracting attention from 5's and 6's yet alone HB9's then...Houston we've got a problem.

 

[violator]

I don't think you contradicted anything I said. Assuming you are a good looking guy from what you say, you are going to get looks from a wide range of women, most these women will be average. Why? Because the distribution of attractive people in the population is a bell curve with most of us being heaped in the average range with the numbers thinning out as you head toward either extreme. So even if a guy is a perfect 10, most the women looking at him will be in the 5 range naturally, but he will also attract HB10s based on looks alone, even if it is relative few due to their scarcity in the population. However, a guy that's a 5 will attract NO attention from HB10s based on his physical attraction alone. Now if the guy is having a hard time attracting attention from 5's and 6's yet alone HB9's then...Houston we've got a problem.

If you really want to get the superhot 9-10, being a pretty boy is not enough. In fact you can be ugly, but have other redeeming qualities, i,e rich, funny, unusually gifted or very charasmatic. Or be very masculine in some way. That is why you see the outlaw biker type of the gangsta thug with the hottest women; or a better example wealthy and powerful men who look like Donald Trump, complete with their combovers with stunning models.

I find that if a hot girl (9-10), thinks you are attractive, she will look at you ever so subtly, but then not pay you attention UNLESS you have value whether you are the CEO of a major music label or hold some other position of power. An average girl will be easily swooned by your looks alone.

They being beautiful, they have gotten bored with physical beauty and desire something more.

 

[Bonhomme]

Nighthawk hit the nail on the head. Excellent post.

Very few women want to f*k a guy who perceives himself as beneath them, and you would have to be a masochist to be with such a woman anyway.

 

[RAFCbearfilm]

I think you need to get appearances out of your heads - Violators examples are case in point. Women want men that have something to offer, they can care less about beauty in men, that is their job. They want a man that can give them something. Some women focus on male attention and material things while others look for excitement and stability.
Again, looks are not our department! The reasons for working out and grooming ourselves is so that we can feel better ourselves, that we are confident in our own skin. That feeling of content in ourselves rolls over to our attitudes which then proceeds to attract the females. Get it?
The girl I am dating now says that she wants ****y and confident. She wants to know that I see value in myself and have ambition to keep going forward. She likes that my mind is always running with ideas and strange concepts cause she says her last boyfriend had no interests outside of sitting around the house. Women like to be challenged because they have a yearning for learning. they want to explore and try things an they want a man to lead the way, why else would 90% of women rate traveling so high?
I would give myself a rating of 6-7, but my personality ups that rating to a 10 in her mind cause I have social proof that she is not the only one that desires to be with me. (I haven't seen a gym for 10+ years and am not loaded by any stretch though I do well.)

 

[BlackJackal]

Hotties are more likely to have got bored with looks, and are looking for rarer qualities - balls.

http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=102590

There are some that say super-hotties should be treated no different to a plain-Jane, and there's some truth in that. Certainly you should never think 'ooh, this chicks is so classy and beautiful I must put her on at least an itty bitty pedestal surely,' like I see most people do all the time. They don't even realise they are doing it, but their eagerness to please and fear of offending are clearly displayed. and this submissiveness instantly disqualifies them from being a sexual proposition in the mind of the uber-fox.

Some might think they know a hottie who is an exception to these generalisations, but in my experience they are very rare. It's much more likely that you are being fooled by her sweet act and angelic face.

Hot women have a totally different life experience to regular people. They can generally get whatever they want by fluttering their eyelashes, and this power corrupts many of them, especially when they are young and stupid. Some will be having too much fun collecting gifts and free food and drinks from their circle of AFCs supplicants to realise that they will get more pleasure from being dominated by a real man, but it is something they all discover sooner or later.

They often gravitate towards thugs, jerks or criminals. This isn't always because they are bad people, but because they are so BORED of the 99% of men who kiss their asss 24/7 that any man with some backbone is irresistible. It is non-jerky thug man's fault they are driven to these types, because they really do prefer a man they can trust if possible. But they crave the most genuinely confident, dominant man they can find, and the bad-boy is usually a safe bet (although they often find they can pussify these types too).

They will test fast and big-time to see if you have the balls to challenge them. Pass this test and you are already ahead of 99% of the competition.

Rarely if ever compliment them on their looks. They know they are hot and they are pretty sure you know it. Keep them guessing.

I'm going to repeat my list of words and phrases that turn on HB9/10s.

"No"

"Shut up."

"You're a retard."

"You're not as stupid as you look."

"Just do it.

Get it yourself you lazy bytch."

"We'll see. If you're a good girl."

"Bend over."


If you can't understand why any one would get a sexual thrill from being talked to like that, that's because you're not a cosseted little madam who hasn't been held accountable for her actions by a man since she learnt how to wrap daddy/teacher/traffic cop/the jury/ round her little finger.

All women want to be fucked, today if possible, and hotties are often the most frustrated because they so rarely feel they are getting a fair deal. There are far more women who know how to make themselves 10s in the eyes of a man there there are men who understand what a woman desires most. This is to your advantage.

A powerful woman wants a powerful mate. Power comes in many forms, and intelligence, ambition, principals and talent command respect - if they are displayed correctly. Musicians and artists get very hot women, even if they are ugly, poor and frankly rubbish. It's the creative urge and the confidence to express yourself that is attractive.

Everything I've said must be underlined in the bedroom. Or better, up against the wall. The hotter a woman is, the more she enjoys being spanked, tied-up, being called a whore. etc. Don't blame me, that's the way it is. Just remember it's supposed to be fun not creepy.

There are those who say that a 9/10 is too much work and they are more comfortable with an easier-going 7 or 8 and I totally understand that. A lot of 9s and 10s are totally unsuitable for a LTR for example, and are best for non-exclusive fvck-buddys.

But there are also 9s & 10s who are not bitches, who long for a strong, trustworthy, decent man to love and cherish - but he must also satisfy her sexual need to be dominated and constantly challenged. Anything less just isn't enough.

This post has been quoted for truth.