"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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Why are there so many losers?

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I'm not an American so that doesn't apply to me. I lived in China quite a long time and was never chased down for my opinions but I've had it done here in Canuckistan quite a few times. Cambodia is not a bad place. Myanmar is currently in crisis, I've been watching since day 1 and well before that. Just because they're having a revolution doesn't mean the women are bad, take a look:

China's a big place you know, they're not all drones walking around. The only communism there is the one they're selling American couch potatoes. If there was communism, they wouldn't have the largest middle class in the world and be vying for economic superiority but if you want to buy into the propaganda, that's on you. Luckily, I don't look at all brits as dumb snaggle toothed Harry Potters or all Americans as Roseanne Barr look alikes. I would say America right now is more communist than China. Asia might be the only place left where super straight is still a thing.




How about that eh?
To each there own dude.
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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It would be nice to have some international zoom penpals.
 

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No, but it greased the skids. It made it easier. Social Media became one of the weapons or vehicles used by the destroyers. It's hard to pinpoint the exact "cause" because every cause had something before it that caused it. As a primary cause I would point at is the Sexual Revolution of the 1960s which gave birth to feminism, and then,...sexual non-accountability for women, birth control, and abortion, all of which removed any and all restraint on Hypergamy. It all eventually led to an explosion of divorce, which led to an explosion of single mothers raising boys to be weak, coddled, sheltered, misled, and feminized. So back to social media,...social media made it easier to preach the gospel of this stuff far and wide.

Let's not forget about the public school system though. If you can mold the next generation from childhood, you then "own" the future,...you just wait for all the current people running the show to die off, and then, in moves the newly programed younger generation. We now have boys as early as kindergarten being taught by women teachers that they are toxic while the girls sitting next to them are victims that can do no wrong.
 

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Don't stick your **** in crazy. Those HOT women are not going to do your brother any favors later when he puts a ring around one of them. I'm told the most colorful snakes are usually the most deadly.
Two other holes to use dude. As long as there is enough lube on both sides of the condom, it shouldn't break. Never throw away good pus. Use it, then buh bye.
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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No, but it greased the skids. It made it easier. Social Media became one of the weapons or vehicles used by the destroyers. It's hard to pinpoint the exact "cause" because every cause had something before it that caused it. As a primary cause I would point at is the Sexual Revolution of the 1960s which gave birth to feminism, and then,...sexual non-accountability for women, birth control, and abortion, all of which removed any and all restraint on Hypergamy. It all eventually led to an explosion of divorce, which led to an explosion of single mothers raising boys to be weak, coddled, sheltered, misled, and feminized. So back to social media,...social media made it easier to preach the gospel of this stuff far and wide.

Let's not forget about the public school system though. If you can mold the next generation from childhood, you then "own" the future,...you just wait for all the current people running the show to die off, and then, in moves the newly programed younger generation. We now have boys as early as kindergarten being taught by women teachers that they are toxic while the girls sitting next to them are victims that can do no wrong.
I do no have social media, and have not had it for over 9 years. When I was dating, it added to the illusion.
 

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We live on a culture that didnt value some core principles like understanding yourself, dealing with emotions and our social interactions.

Our culture today value objects, a compulsive pursue of the fantasy of success (money, sexual attraction, status, showing others how superiors we are).

So those incels and guys you call losers probably have unsolved traumas or emotional issues that made them behave that way. Even if its toxic or not... It seems like a self-defense mechanism to handle the pain or suffering they are dealing with. So not everyone can get out of darkness alone... And this creates any kind of responses.

About social media, yes... I believe it helped a lot to some issues we are experiencing nowadays.
 

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Me and my brothers grew up without a father. I had my father for 8 years, my youngest brother never knew him. My youngest brother is a skinny, 140'lb guy that chainsmokes and is a huge SJW and racism/LGBTQ activist. Yet he gets attention and sex from HOT girls while I, a masculine non-conformist get 5-6's. I wish things worked like how you all are making it out to be but it just doesn't where I live. My "loser" brother gets more hot ***** than I've seen.
Has it occured to you that the brother you consider a loser is pulling better quality wins with women than you because he is more open minded and has a more positive vibe than you? Sometimes what we view as strength is actually a major weakness. If a “loser” is filling his cabinet with trophies then clearly he isnt a loser. Similarly if a self-certified “alpha winner” is pulling 5-6s at best, then he needs to check his definition of a “winner”.

I sense your brother is a happy-go-lucky guy whose positive attitude and embracing personality endears him to people from all walks of life. Your so-called ‘masculine non-conformism’ is clearly doing you no favours. It may be time to restrategise. Dont continue to use the wrong mathematical formula, hoping that it miraculously will produce a correct answer. 1+1 is always = 2.
 

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Has it occured to you that the brother you consider a loser is pulling better quality wins with women than you because he is more open minded and has a more positive vibe than you? Sometimes what we view as strength is actually a major weakness. If a “loser” is filling his cabinet with trophies then clearly he isnt a loser. Similarly if a self-certified “alpha winner” is pulling 5-6s at best, then he needs to check his definition of a “winner”.

I sense your brother is a happy-go-lucky guy whose positive attitude and embracing personality endears him to people from all walks of life. Your so-called ‘masculine non-conformism’ is clearly doing you no favours. It may be time to restrategise. Dont continue to use the wrong mathematical formula, hoping that it miraculously will produce a correct answer. 1+1 is always = 2.
This is my point actually. I hate threads like this because they seem to support what doesn’t work.

As for myself, it’s too hard to be a happy go lucky “**** me in my ass” pushover. So I’ll settle
For the 5’s
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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Very interesting.

I've researched Daddy Issues quite a bit. It also seems that women from fatherless households love destroying men as part of a Daddy Revenge fantasy.
This may explain my current situation after 14 years of relative peace
 

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I find this very hard to believe. Are you sure he's not just orbiting these women and telling you that he's fvcking them?
I'm relatively sure he is ****ing them. He smells like ***** sometimes after getting home. And even when we go out to like Denny's or something I've seen hot waitresses batting eyelashes at him while ignoring me. It's bizarre
 

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Once the BPD devaluation process is triggered you're in a tough spot. BPD's idolize you (and this can be indefinite if you play it right), then something happens where attraction falls and she starts to devalue you. This devaluation period can last for weeks, months or years....and then it's inevitably followed by the discard. The discard tends to comes out of nowhere, when you least expect it. She'll abruptly light-switch on you and it's like she never knew you. She'll likely ghost too.
I think its just pandemic related boredom coupled with years of resentment. We have a kid together, she'll have to fall back in line eventually. I can't divorce her right now.
 

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If you don't like or accept female nature then blame God.
Yes.
Although you have to factor in The Fall. We are not what God originally created. We are what we became after The Fall. As a result of The Fall God cursed mankind and all of creation. We are a corruption of what God created. The sexual drive needed to perpetuate the species became the force behind destructive behavor. Hypergamy meant as a survival instinct for women to protect them, becomes a goal of feminism to "unfetter" it and "maximize" against men and divide the genders.
 

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Famous last words. It happens when you least expect it...
I get that. I am surprised by her behavior but am aware it can happen.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Beta game doesn't work tho. If it did then there'd be no redpill community. If this supposed SJW Hero is genuinely getting laid then there's something else going on. I suspect he uses Beta Game to lure women into brutal sex like IT the Clown uses balloons to lure children into drains. It's a dangerous strategy tho because it usually ends in a rape conviction. I have a few artist/SJW friends who used this exact strategy and ended up getting destroyed.
Was just thinking...
A beta isn't always a beta in every situation. He could be generally a beta but not using "beta game". It doesn't have to be "alpha game" either. It can be some middle-of-the-road hybrid game. If he is physically attractive enough it doesn't take a lot of game or any game at all. The waitress at Denney's situation makes me think this because he wouldn't have been running game (of any kind) on her right then, but he still had her full attention. Some guys just have the right "look" to them and women just come to them. They have no idea what beta or alpha is and have no real idea why they have the success that they manage to have. That is why they often suck at trying to teach other guys to be successful with women. I think you can see this example in the interview with Rollo Tomassi on the Charlie & Ben Podcast when they keep denying the things Rollos was saying because in their own personal experiences they didn't have the problems that Rollo described other men having. Their "looks" shielded them from the truth and they couldn't grasp it.
 

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Maybe the SJW-thing is an act and he actually strangles and brutally A$$-fuks these women in private after the BLM Rallies.

Women can smell a psychopathic liar and they love it. Maybe your bro is one of those.
Lol I doubt it. He gets very agitated and disturbed whenever I bring up anything against the narrative.

is that true about lying tho? I thought women responded to men who were honest instead of telling people what they wanted to hear. It’s much harder to be brutally honest than changing your responses to fit the audience.
 

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Was just thinking...
A beta isn't always a beta in every situation. He could be generally a beta but not using "beta game". It doesn't have to be "alpha game" either. It can be some middle-of-the-road hybrid game. If he is physically attractive enough it doesn't take a lot of game or any game at all. The waitress at Denney's situation makes me think this because he wouldn't have been running game (of any kind) on her right then, but he still had her full attention. Some guys just have the right "look" to them and women just come to them. They have no idea what beta or alpha is and have no real idea why they have the success that they manage to have. That is why they often suck at trying to teach other guys to be successful with women. I think you can see this example in the interview with Rollo Tomassi on the Charlie & Ben Podcast when they keep denying the things Rollos was saying because in their own personal experiences they didn't have the problems that Rollo described other men having. Their "looks" shielded them from the truth and they couldn't grasp it.
The funny thing is he is probably only 120 lbs. auschwitz skinny. Worked at a movie theatre arcade before the covid. Not a typical alpha but the hotties come into him and rarely onto me except, back in my day before I learned game, I had women approaching me too. So there is something else going on I just don’t know what.
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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