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Why are some girls so persistant in trying to make you an orbiter?

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If you meet a girl but it doesn't go anywhere, maybe you get the LJBF speech so you walk away.

You know if she's not interested it makes sense right? Why waste time.

I can understand a girl initially making some effort to keep you around as a beta orbiter manservent. But why do some girls persist even after you make it CLEAR that you aren't interested.

One girl tried this on me and bear in mind I walked away from her over a YEAR ago.

I have to admit back then I didn't know what the hell I was doing and it was really my fault I messed up with her. Looking back she had high IL but I didn't take action and she lost attraction.

I started to apply Corey Waynes stuff to the situation because my opinion on her is that I don't really care but if she's DTF then fine. I walked away saying I'm not keen to be friends but if you want to go out some time give me a call. She said she wanted to get with me but I never seemed interested so she thought we'd just be friends and now she's not sure. I repeated "OK well if you want to hang out and see where it goes give me a call but I'm not interested in friends" she said "ok"

A couple of times over the next few weeks she texted "miss you :-s" so I did what CW advises and tried to set a date. She said she "needed to think" so I exited and said call me when you figure it out.

Since then I've not suggested getting together. I reply to her texts with 0 emotion like 2 days after she texts. I never initiate, I never stay in the conversation long. I've set my cards out and stuck to them.

She STILL texts that she misses me like a year later every few weeks or makes some other reason up to contact me and I'm civil but that's it.

If I ignore her she still texts.

What's the deal here? She gets nothing from me so why persist?
 

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Infern0 said:
But why do some girls persist even after you make it CLEAR that you aren't interested.
Hmm, interesting, not sure.

I walked away saying I'm not keen to be friends but if you want to go out some time give me a call.
Oh, that's why.

She said she wanted to get with me but I never seemed interested so she thought we'd just be friends and now she's not sure.
Uh-huh. Sure honey.

I repeated "OK well if you want to hang out and see where it goes give me a call but I'm not interested in friends" she said "ok"
Did you let her know that you'll be waiting for her at the end of the dock, for the rest of eternity? Whenever she's done banging all those Alphas, you'll come swoop her up off her feet, grab your napkin and wipe the *** off her chin for her.

A couple of times over the next few weeks she texted "miss you :-s" so I did what CW advises and tried to set a date.
That was just a test to make sure she still had you on her leash - she did.

She said she "needed to think" so I exited and said call me when you figure it out.
Whenever she's "ready", you'll be there. What a swell guy you are.

Since then I've not suggested getting together. I reply to her texts with 0 emotion like 2 days after she texts. I never initiate, I never stay in the conversation long. I've set my cards out and stuck to them.
Better late than never.

She STILL texts that she misses me like a year later every few weeks or makes some other reason up to contact me and I'm civil but that's it.
Might as well throw out the line every once in a while, see if you're hungry to jump back on it.

If I ignore her she still texts.

What's the deal here? She gets nothing from me so why persist?
Why not? No loss on her part. However, by ignoring her and standing up for yourself, you may actually be starting to make an impression, and be stirring something in those loins of hers.

I'd say keep doing what you're doing. Right now she sounds like she's still in "friendship" mode? But, if you keep turning her down, she may switch over into "attracted" mode. Even then though, I'd still suggest to keep turning her down. Wait until the hamster spins itself off the rails, to the point where she's spreading her legs in front of your face and begging and pleading for you to ram her brains out.

Then and only then shall you try to bang her.

Patience my friend, do not forget how easily you had previously fallen into the friend zone.
 

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First. Let me say you are doing most things right, do not change what you are doing. Don't follow Corey Wayne, but if this is what he teaches then he is right. You never let a women turn you into a Eunic male girl-friend. Walk away if she tries and don't contact her again. If she does... try to make a date, if she won;t go out with you then walk away. But I would stop asking her out if she did this more than a couple of times.

Now why is she doing this? Reaching out, then not going out... Simple, she just wants you for validation. The guy she is fvcking is probibily not treating her right and she is contacting not only you, but any guy that had shown her some interest in the last year. Normal female behavior.

A woman with interest would go out with you.
 

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To be fair I did mess up pretty bad to start with because back then I had NO confidence at all.

I think she had high IL, why?

She would ask me if I want to go to a movie with her then she would pay, she would ask to come over and hang out, she would always talk about how she was single etc etc, blowing up my phone with texts.

I was so bad at that point my attitude was like "kinda seems like she's interested but........nah she wouldn't be surely" like I say, bad.

For my part I treated her like a friend. Bad.

Anyways I'm not too fussed about this one but I would like to smash, I think it's just an ego thing at this point "I salvaged it" you know.

I'll stick to what I'm doing I guess?
 
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Infern0 said:
To be fair I did mess up pretty bad to start with because back then I had NO confidence at all.

I think she had high IL, why?

She would ask me if I want to go to a movie with her then she would pay, she would ask to come over and hang out, she would always talk about how she was single etc etc, blowing up my phone with texts.

I was so bad at that point my attitude was like "kinda seems like she's interested but........nah she wouldn't be surely" like I say, bad.

For my part I treated her like a friend. Bad.

Anyways I'm not too fussed about this one but I would like to smash, I think it's just an ego thing at this point "I salvaged it" you know.

I'll stick to what I'm doing I guess?

I personally think it is no problem to smash a "challenge", as you know you can't put all or most of your eggs in this basket. So you gotta have plates that you are successful with a minimum of output from you.

Keep this babe back burnered, and ignore her and get that date out of her.

While you are waiting improve things that would improve your IL.
 

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I personally think it is no problem to smash a "challenge", as you know you can't put all or most of your eggs in this basket. So you gotta have plates that you are successful with a minimum of output from you.

Keep this babe back burnered, and ignore her and get that date out of her.

While you are waiting improve things that would improve your IL.
One thing I forgot to mention, I saw this chick like 6 months ago while I was dating my bpd. I had a suit on for a work function and she commented on it. She called me drunk a few nights later and told me she was horny and the suit made her wet, I played along and she sent a bunch of pics of her tits and her fingering herself. Kind of frustrating because I was locked down with bpd ***** at the time.

I feel like her attraction level varies with me I dunno
 

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DaddyLongShanks said:
I personally think it is no problem to smash a "challenge", as you know you can't put all or most of your eggs in this basket. So you gotta have plates that you are successful with a minimum of output from you.

Keep this babe back burnered, and ignore her and get that date out of her.

While you are waiting improve things that would improve your IL.
One thing I forgot to mention, I saw this chick like 6 months ago while I was dating my bpd. I had a suit on for a work function and she commented on it. She called me drunk a few nights later and told me she was horny and the suit made her wet, I played along and she sent a bunch of pics of her tits and her fingering herself. Kind of frustrating because I was locked down with bpd ***** at the time.

I feel like her attraction level varies with me I dunno
 

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Seems like you did okay once you realized you were being d*cked around. She's attention wh0ring you. Simple. But if she's going to use you for attention you could use her for entertainment just for the hell of it. Basically keep doing what you've been doing. Never initiate contact. Give her one word answers to her texts. Drop off mid conversation if you're in one. Ignore texts here and there. if she texts just text back "busy right now, talk to you later". I had a situation like this with a girl I used to see, she had a BF but kept texting even though I told her I wasn't interested in being friends. After I asked to get together with her a couple of times I stopped asking. I ignored her for like 3-4 months. Not a word from me. She got back in touch with me after several months of me going NC on her. I never apologized or explained why I had disappeared off the map for a while and ignored her. I never brought up getting together again. She'd text, I'd delay my responses for several hours or I'd just not reply at all. I never discussed any meaningful topics with her and kept conversations brief. If I ignored a text, she'd just follow up with another one. I could tell it was annoying her. Basically you have to let her think that you've moved on, lost interest, and that she has no chance with you. Basically you have to kind of border on being an a**hole. Not too much but you get the idea. This may put her back in chase mode. But if a girl has rejected my offer to get together at least twice, I don't ask again. Not ever.
 
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Infern0 said:
One thing I forgot to mention, I saw this chick like 6 months ago while I was dating my bpd. I had a suit on for a work function and she commented on it. She called me drunk a few nights later and told me she was horny and the suit made her wet, I played along and she sent a bunch of pics of her tits and her fingering herself. Kind of frustrating because I was locked down with bpd ***** at the time.

I feel like her attraction level varies with me I dunno
You should have went over there and banged her, once she says she's horny you are supposed to be on your way.
 

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Infern0 said:
You know if she's not interested it makes sense right? Why waste time.
You have to stop applying male logic to women.

Attention whoring is NEVER a waste of time for them. They live for that sh-t and rest assured, you aren't the only victim.

You know how you stop it? Completely ignore them. That means cutting them off without any further response.
 

Just because a woman listens to you and acts interested in what you say doesn't mean she really is. She might just be acting polite, while silently wishing that the date would hurry up and end, or that you would go away... and never come back.

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Infern0 said:
One thing I forgot to mention, I saw this chick like 6 months ago while I was dating my bpd. I had a suit on for a work function and she commented on it. She called me drunk a few nights later and told me she was horny and the suit made her wet, I played along and she sent a bunch of pics of her tits and her fingering herself. Kind of frustrating because I was locked down with bpd ***** at the time.

I feel like her attraction level varies with me I dunno
What city is she around?
 

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GS750 said:
Seems like you did okay once you realized you were being d*cked around. She's attention wh0ring you. Simple. But if she's going to use you for attention you could use her for entertainment just for the hell of it. Basically keep doing what you've been doing. Never initiate contact. Give her one word answers to her texts. Drop off mid conversation if you're in one. Ignore texts here and there. if she texts just text back "busy right now, talk to you later". I had a situation like this with a girl I used to see, she had a BF but kept texting even though I told her I wasn't interested in being friends. After I asked to get together with her a couple of times I stopped asking. I ignored her for like 3-4 months. Not a word from me. She got back in touch with me after several months of me going NC on her. I never apologized or explained why I had disappeared off the map for a while and ignored her. I never brought up getting together again. She'd text, I'd delay my responses for several hours or I'd just not reply at all. I never discussed any meaningful topics with her and kept conversations brief. If I ignored a text, she'd just follow up with another one. I could tell it was annoying her. Basically you have to let her think that you've moved on, lost interest, and that she has no chance with you. Basically you have to kind of border on being an a**hole. Not too much but you get the idea. This may put her back in chase mode. But if a girl has rejected my offer to get together at least twice, I don't ask again.
Did you get anywhere in the end?

One thing I have to keep reiterating is I really don't think I got ****ed around in the beginning, I buried myself

I think it's important to own our own mistakes I was acting like a ***** beta and got what I deserved.

Since then though yeah she's been "****ing around" I think the drastic personality change probably came as a shock and she thinks I'll go back to me old ways.

Ain't happening
 

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Well what RangerMike said is true. She is likely with someone but maybe not getting the level of attention that she needs from him, or he's not treating her well, etc. so she reaches out for attention. By saying "call me if you change your mind" you're not forcing her to make a decision, she figures you'll always be there waiting. So when you flipped your attitude/behavior by basically walking away and being aloof, not suggesting getting together anymore, you did it right.
 
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