"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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Why are a lot of women like this?

justiceseeker

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Why do so many women like being treated like crap? And why do they seem to hold those who treat them like crap in such high regard?

My girlfriend's family treat her about as shytty as I've ever seen and she adores them?????

Example> She tried committing suicide a few weeks ago. I called her dad to tell him she was in the hospital, his response was "Tell her we said hi"????? WTF????

The thing is, she practically worships her dad. To be honest, since I've known her, I've never seen him treat her nice once. Now, I guess they used to have a good relationship, but what's up with this?

Also, some guy she dated way before she met me used to physically abuse her, gave her herpes, and had a wife and kids he never told her about, yet, she claims he was the love of her life.

We just broke up, due to the fact that I guess I didn't treat her shytty enough. I was the one who stayed all night with her in the hospital, took care of her, but she's with her parents now???


I honestly don't get it. It's not logical. Why would a person love people more who treat her like shyt?
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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iqqi

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Because she has issues.

The real question is, why do you value someone with issues who wants to be treated badly? You are the male version of her.
 

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Because it's family.

Family is not something you can give up. The only set of people in the world that you cannot possibly remove from your life is your family.

You cannot extrapolate from this exceptional case. Family is NOT "some people".
 

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Eh looks like we've got another Sosuaver who ran into one.

Do a forum search on either Stockholm Syndrome or Borderline Personality Disorder.

Thats what issues your sweety is likely afflicted with and no you can't fix or change her.

Trying to do so makes you capn save a h0 and those who become the capn ain't never been a man up to that point with any self respect.

And the father is likely an Anti Social Personality Disordered winner with the way he treats his daughter or a normal father that is at his wits end who doesn't know what the hell is wrong with his daughter and is absolutely fed up with her hospitalizations and dramatic panic attacks and false suicide cry for help and attention attempts.

BPD's tend to get hospitalized and sedated at times when they can no longer deal with the madness in their minds.

Edit: My post limit has run out but I'll say that Borderline and Histrionic Personality Disordered women fall in love with a fantasy of the perfect guy.

The guy can be anything from an ex con, an STD infected pedophile or the otaku tard who watches anime all day who you know from next door.

The point is they can go through times where they get involved in what most of normal society considers to be highly innappropriate relationships and ones even considered by most people to be dangerous to their lives.

The fantasy and momentary need is all that they care about.

So there you have it my short but concise explanation for the "herpes guy" that she loves eternally and forever.
 

justiceseeker

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iqqi said:
Because she has issues.

The real question is, why do you value someone with issues who wants to be treated badly? You are the male version of her.
I never thought of that. Great point. But I honestly don't let people treat me like crap, and when they do, I usually don't have anything to do with them.

As far as family, that only goes so far. If my dad would have said that while I was laying in a hospital bed, I sure as shyt wouldn't be staying with him afterwards.

This also doesn't explain the herpes guy.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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DannykDJ

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My personal opinion of why so many women are like this is because the absence of a strong male father. It is the fathers job to show his daughter the traits that a quality man should have through his actions. Most women have either a bad or no relationship with their fathers. So most women don't understand what a healthy relationship is or what a high quality man is because all they know are the drama shows on television and they believe thats what a healthy relationship is like. Dysfunction then breeds dysfunction and the cycle continues.

Also I recommend you stay away from her because of the herpes. Call me whatever you want but if I find out a girl has or has ever had an std she is instantly out of there. No woman is worth your health.

All of this is just my opinion
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