Who's lying? Help definitely needed (3.25 ms word pages)

[chellikwaja]

I'll set up the background a little.

I've been going out with a girl right now for about two months but next week I need to move far away for 9 months for school. About a month ago a random girl on facebook added me. I started chatting with her but I've never met her. In about 2 months she's going to start going to my school. She for whatever reason really started liking me. About two weeks ago she found out who my girlfriend is and started chatting with her online.

Fast forward to two days ago...
Girl #2(not my girlfriend, this is what I'll call her) tells me online that she thinks my girlfriend is going to break up with me soon. I ask her why and she says it's just her feeling. After some prying, I get it out of her that apparently my girlfriend had asked this girl to introduce her to some guys that are tall rich and handsome if we end up breaking up. And she apparently said that she's playing me(my girlfriend said this) that she doesn't like me all that much because she thinks I'm a player, and that she doesn't want to wait until I come back next summer.

This all came as a huge shock to me because my girlfriend just two weeks ago she sent me a long letter telling me how she likes me so much and that she would be crushed if I cheated and she almost broke up with me because she's afraid of me cheating, she originally didn't want to date me because she thinks I'm much better looking than her and fears I'll cheat, her friends all think that too. Also I'm her first boyfriend. She's had many, many guys who have liked her but she turned them all down and all of her friends teachers boss, everyone has verified this. Also her friends all said that she used to never go out with them to do anything, that she would go out maybe once or twice a month but now with me she goes out almost every day.

So one day ago, all three of us are chatting at the same time, I ask that girl to ask my girlfriend if what she said a week ago was true. This girl asked her and then told me that it was true. Then she copy pasted and gave me a look. Apparently my girlfriend said "Are you asking me if I still want a tall handsome rich guy. Of course, why ask?" Then apparently the girl asked her you have broken up with Chellikwaja yet though have you? Then my girlfriend apparently responded "You don't understand...it's just a backup." And apparently this girl gave my girlfriend two pictures of two guys and my girlfriend said one of them is not so bad.

Then apparently later my girlfriend, and this part is important that it's yesterday she said this, he's not reliable and he's easy to trick.

 

[chellikwaja]

After she told me this she made me promise not to tell my girlfriend I knew all of this because they are friends now apparently

So yesterday I went out with my girlfriend and asked her about this. I asked her if yesterday she talked about this and she said no. She only talked with this girl for a little and the girl had asked her if they are friends. She said “Of course, why ask?” I asked her if she ever asked this girl to introduce her to guys and she said she never asked her to that the girl had asked her if she wanted her to introduce guys to her. My girlfriend said yes, if chellikwaja cheats and we break up. And she said the photos of the two guys were two guys who liked this girl and the girl asked her which one was better and my girlfriend picked one. Then my girlfriend said she never told the girl that she was playing me and never told her that I was unreliable.

She did however say that she did say “You don’t understand…it’s just a backup.” She actually admitted she said a lot and told me what she said. But she also explained why she said it. Because at the time this girl had told her how it seemed like I wanted to cheat with her and that I seemed like a player. So my girlfriend was saying that because she didn’t want to let the girl know how much she liked me and that she’s just nervous about telling others her true feelings. Which after thinking about it that’s pretty much how I responded after initially hearing all of this. I started thinking about us breaking up and afterwards and finding new girls.

Previously in the day before I told my girlfriend all of this, my girlfriend asked me if I knew who this one guy was in a picture of mine. I said yes, why. And she said I’ll tell you later. Then after I told her everything, she told me that the girl had told her that she told one of my friends(the guy in the picture, who this girl is also friends with) that I’m her boyfriend and asked him what I’m like. The girl told her my friend said that I’m a player, that I smoke and drink a ton and that I already have a girlfriend from previously. I was shocked because my friend would never say this because it’s not true and he’s a really great guy so he wouldn’t tell her lies like this even as a joke.

So after we went home my girlfriend said she would send me a copy of all of their online conversations by doing the printscreen thing and sending me the pictures of their msn and facebook conversations. This was late at night. So she sent me all of their conversations for the first three days. I noticed that this girl used a lot of the same terminology that she used with me. Such as saying that she thinks I’m a player. And then my girlfriend asking why and she said it’s just her feeling. Then saying how it seems like I’m interested in her and my girlfriend told her “But my boyfriend said that you like him.” Then she said “ actually I like two guys right now (which are the guys from the picture, and I’m positive that she like me at that time because she told me a week before that she liked me). Then later on in their conversation the girl said that she feels like I’m unreliable (which is what she claimed my girl said, and at the time I asked her what she thinks my girl meant by that and she said she doesn’t know what it means) after reading all of this I really got the impression that my girl was telling the truth and that girl2 was lying.

 

[chellikwaja]

So fast forward to today. My girl up to a couple of hours ago said that she was going to send me a copy of the rest of their conversations up to the very last one. So I’m thinking hey, my girl really isn’t lying if she let’s me see this. But then all of a sudden I get a call from her saying that she doesn’t want to send me the rest of it because she’s sick of all of this and she just wants to get over it and that the important thing is that we trust each other. Then I go downstairs, get online and my girls says that they’ve been chatting. I’m thinking what the f… Why does she still want to be friends with this girl?

So I tell the girl “hey, why’d you tell me that you two chatted yesterday about this and that my girl said that she still wants you to help her find a guy when she told me that you two didn’t even talk about me yesterday, that you only asked her if you were friends?” She said that they did talk about this yesterday. Then I asked her why’d you say that my girl said I’m unreliable when it was you who first said that and then you acted like you didn’t know the meaning of that?”

She said oh that’s right I did say it because at the time that’s what I thought. But later on your girlfriend said it too. Then I asked her well, why don’t you let me look at you conversation from yesterday, and she said well that’s no use because she can just change it. And I said not if you don’t have an xml editor and if you use the printscreen to let me see a picture. Then she said fine it doesn’t matter, what’s past is past. If you want just act like I lied but I won’t give you a picture of our conversation. Which I think is incredibly weird because if she decided to tell me that she thinks my girlfriend is going to cheat why won’t she offer me substantial proof of it when yesterday she said she would. Also she said that my girlfriend could have changed the photos and I said maybe for the msn if she had an xml editor but definitely not for the facebook one because you can’t change what other people said in your inbox messages, at least not that I know of. Then she said, maybe she changed the photo itself. And I said no way I would be able to tell. And I asked her if she ever said my friend said all that stuff. She said no. I’ll find out soon enough because I just sent a message to my friend about this.

And that gets us up to right now. Both went to bed. So right now I’m doubting both. Why would my girlfriend so straightforwardly admit to saying all of that except for saying that she was playing me? Why would she let me see all of their facebook conversation(which after reading definitely seemed like girl2 was planting doubts in her head) and part of their MSN conversation(which actually contained idle chat, nothing of interest). But then also why after telling her that I trust her earlier today, and after saying up until a couple of hours ago that she would send me the rest, did she change her mind and now absolutely refuses no matter what to let me see the rest? It makes me think she has something to hide.

And with girl 2, why should I believe her? I’ve never met her. She seems to flip flop in saying that she never said I was a player(which she told me at the time she said that that she thought I was a good boyfriend and that I wouldn’t cheat), that she never said that I was unreliable, that it was my girlfriend. And why would she be so adamant about saying that my girlfriend could have changed their conversations and that they did talk about this yesterday? And why won’t she all of a sudden not give me a copy of their conversation from yesterday when yesterday she said today she would. But when we ended our conversation she said let me think a while, maybe I will give you a copy, and that anyways I’ll know soon enough.

 

[Ease]

ok heres what you do:

stop thinking. stop analysing. stop stressing.

This new girl is messed up in the head, and your girlfriend is an idiot. It doesnt matter who turns to be right or wrong i wouldnt trust either of them right now.

But when we ended our conversation she said let me think a while, maybe I will give you a copy, and that anyways I’ll know soon enough.

wtf does that mean??

You tell her to let you see the convo, and she says no? what the hell?
At this point you say 'wtf stop messing me around either let me see or admit your lieing i dont have time for this ****'

Your girlfriend is afraid your gona cheat? You say, 'wtf, why would i cheat on you if im going out with you? If im ever unhappy with being with you, u'll be the first to know about it, so in the meanwhile stop being stupid'

You need to shake yourself up and start taking control and stop being slapped around by two girls. Be a man and stand up. If a girl is causing you stress, then you walk away, because you know you can find a new girl that wont cause you stress. The power to walk away is your leverage.

If your girlfriend dumps you, say ok cool and dont show emotion. If it turns out that she didnt do anything and she wants you, say ok cool and dont show emotion. Dont start getting paranoid and worked up because of girls being stupid. Real men are too busy climbing mountains and crossing rivers for this crap.

You're gona be gone for 9 months? Get with other girls have fun anyway, life is too short. All this is for nothing since your going in a week.

 

[Alle_Gory]

Being concise is an art. From what I can tell, you're thinking way too much. Even for me, and I have ADD!

Slow down man.