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Solomon said:
Naw actually Tdot is younger then Uncle T, on top of that Tdot's got a head full of hair!!

whats "of they are cold"?

OTB/Rhodey where is that field report you said you were gonna post with pictures showing me how "you get it in?" I mean do you even go out at all? or do you just like hugging my scortum?s


:crackup: :crackup: :crackup:

LOL! Why did you tell Uncle T only part of the story?

Does he know:

  • You read PUA books and frequent PUA forums?
  • You post on the gay racist barry giggley forum?
  • You learned how to dress from one of Player Supreme's Ex pupils?
  • You started the feud because your feeling were hurt when Supreme critized
your immature look and game?

Does Uncle T know that Supreme was actually trying to help you ?

Seriously Uncle T seems like a smart dude, but you didn't come correct son.
 

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Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

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naaaaaaaaawwwwwwww

OTB before I answer your questions (which I always do)

why won't you answer mine? On top of that had you watched the videos all your questions would have been answered (duuh)


http://en.sevenload.com/videos/ItIXytxU-Uncle-T-Watching-Strawberry

lol @ the 19th minute, who is telling the truth now?

http://en.sevenload.com/videos/48mZ96v2-AFC-offering-to-buy-chicks-a-drink
^^The truth

http://en.sevenload.com/videos/GPUuJiLL-Unlce-T-addressing-Strawberry-Supreme
^^The end

Why has your "Guru" been banned 5 times from here?
Why hasn't Johnny S been banned? or Speer? or even Young Beezy?(think about it)
How come half your post counts are flaming me?
Why don't you ever post a field report?
Why is your "Guru" so obseesed with a supposed and I quote "nobody in the community"?
Yet continues to hug my scortum, and try to garner my "affections" to join his site and learn his method?

I mean do you geninuely wanna help me(as if I need it, LOL) or flame me, because every post you send at me has been a flame, I don't see RSD guys flaming other guys for not joining their site, or Meehow guy's doing that, but you "guys" do.

Please answer my questions RHodey and I will answer yours Iplaya-Playa
 

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i have been reading DD's double your dating and it really makes sense to me and seems like it fits into the style i already have. i have enjoyed reading it a lot.

i agree with what everyone is saying about the MM stuff - a lot of it takes the uniqueness out of the person because they are following such a strict routine.

i am definately going to check out RSD but i have a few questions...

what would you guys recommend for starting out in RSD (like trolling the forum's best threads, or blueprint decoded, or what?)??

if you guys recomend to start with the products, which one is best/good starting point?? -AND- is there any freakin way to get around the outrageous prices?!?! there is no way i would be able to afford anything over 100 dollars. i just cant.
 

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Why has your "Guru" been banned 5 times from here?
Dont know maybe the mods would know.

Why hasn't Johnny S been banned? or Speer? or even Young Beezy?(think about it)
I dont know who these people are.

How come half your post counts are flaming me?
Because you a phony and you didn't tell your Uncle T the full story. Very deceitful on your part.

Why don't you ever post a field report?
I do on Zenmack.com. Why dont you stop by I'll show them to you. Scatch that. We know yu are lurking, so why dont you reveal yourself?

Why is your "Guru" so obseesed with a supposed and I quote "nobody in the community"?
Obsessed, hardly. You are a former student that got his feeling hurt. You need to let it go.

Yet continues to hug my scortum, and try to garner my "affections" to join his site and learn his method?
Well you keep talking sh it and then hide. It would end if you behaved like a man instead of a punk.

I mean do you geninuely wanna help me(as if I need it, LOL) or flame me, because every post you send at me has been a flame, I don't see RSD guys flaming other guys for not joining their site, or Meehow guy's doing that, but you "guys" do.

You did need it. Remember you couldn't dress. You do recall DJ DAN helping you out right? You had no game and you needed help. That's not a flame kid.


Ok so I answered your questions, now are you going to hold up your end of the bargain and answer mine from the previous post?
 

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ive been into martial arts all my life

I try to use Bruce Lee's 'Absorb what is useful, reject what is useless" philosophy to everything i do in life.

I love reading and researching anything i am into. You can have a book which is 90% crap but there may be a couple of things in it which really help you out. Hell on the weekend i successfully used an opener from the Pick up artist tv show, lol
 

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i ve read all the books
the one that most impacted on me was STYLE S RULES OF THE GAME

NEALL is not a looker by any means so it shows you can still get the girls without xtraordinary looks

the sticking point is my case was to get the convo flowing after opening the milf

so i worked out the following exercise i imagine i am talkin to a woman in the comfort of my room i just fluff away for 5 minutes and it works i ve discovered i have this ability to fluff away for whatever time i also call this technique THE DISC JOCKEY TECHNIQUE I imagine being on the radio and talking away about anything

i am sure any guy can do it

MY STRUCTURE
time constraint plus 2 negs within the first three minutes
( always the same negs )
a lot of C/F

FINALLY I USE style s METHOD For getting her digits ( chapter 20 the rules of the games ) and i get an awful lot of telephone numbers !!
 

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sometimes or shall i say most of the time i am not in the mood to go sarging just want to get back to mom
so i apply what i call the diving board technique or the FIRT EIGHT MINUTE technique

i must approach at least 3 fit women within the first 8 minutes then my job s done

if i don t approach i apply the PREMACK TECHNIQUE NO BEER FOR ME IN THE EVENING
 

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rhodey said:
LOL! Why did you tell Uncle T only part of the story?

Does he know:

  • You read PUA books and frequent PUA forums?

    Only Book I ever read was "The Game' by Neil Strauss, a bunch of SS articles by legends such as fingz (who is one of my mentors), sexpdx, Motu, xblitz, all guyz who went in the field and got it in. I don't frquent any "pua" forums, I visit SS, a board with vets of SS, and a inner game forum
  • You post on the gay racist barry giggley forum?
    I posted there because Barry is anti-community, I was getting fed up, ironically your Guru posted there as well under the pseudo name of "master bator"
    [*]You le
    arned how to dress from one of Player Supreme's Ex pupils?
    I'll address this in a second, lol @ ex pupil, I guess when the student outshines the teacher it ain't a good look for the teacher eeeh?
  • You started the feud because your feeling were hurt when Supreme critized
your immature look and game?

I'll address this as well

Does Uncle T know that Supreme was actually trying to help you ?

Seriously Uncle T seems like a smart dude, but you didn't come correct son.
First lets discuss this "myth" of DJ Dan aka Metaphysical giving me advice on how to dress. When I first joined the boards, I saw how Dan was outspoken against Pua's. Wanting to not follow the "routine" route that most guys do, I got in touch with Dan about the hot chick not calling me back in my first field report by Bilo. Dan told me to let the girl be and not "do the Pua thing by callng her back" I listening to Dan, didn't pursue and let it go. Mind you this is in October so I'm "Fresh" on the scene. Dan then tells me I should get his "e-book". I was a bit skeptical though because I didn't wanna read books, I wanted to go out on the field.

FastForward to December. Dan left the board for a couple months, comes back. I being proud of my improvement wanted to show Dan how good I have done in the last two months(this was right after my 3 some field report). Dan wasn't impressed with my improvement at all and said that I should be "closing every girl 100%"(and "buy his book" :rolleyes:) and that my pictures didn't mean sh*t (the irony since half of his site was him and skanks bent over for marketing purpose for his "e-book"). We went back and forth and I asked him a basic question on "building rapport" He couldn't answer me rhodey!!!, he just said "buy my book" blah blah. I wasn't impressed at that point. This basic question was something that everyother "vet" on this site could answer, guys who have helped my game. I didn't know that Dan was "supreme greatest pupil" until he revealed himself like Lord Voldermort in Harry Potter (ROFL) after he send me a PM I lost respect for Dan because he couldn't answer a "basic quesiton and instead gave me some b.s"


^^No disrespect to Dan, but @ this point I was baffled, he sounded like a "cup holder" to me, and I was baffled because at the time he was promoting an e-book, but you would not have known by how he was promoting his "master".

Rhodey you know who taught me how to dress? a natural, aka Ty aka Tdot.


^^a picture of me in 06 with some of my boys


^^a Picture of me in 07


^^a collage of one of my x's and I a couple years ago, as you can tell RHodey Im a couple pounds lighter, so nothing is fabricated. as you can see I've always been "fly" knamean? :D, I have never lied to you Rhodey, your Guru has lied to you though, and zenmack and his podcast and he has lied about me plenty of times (and then you wonder why I'm skeptical about him?)

So RHodey this whole notion is false!!


Second, Chris and I beef is a misunderstanding. I thought he was coming at me wrong, I didn't realize until I went back to the other post that Chris was just well being Chris. The problem though was that he made a podcast about it before hollaring at me for help (somethng JOhnny S, or Speer would never do, hell even young beezy wouldn't that's some real "betcha$$ness right there, yahmean?), if Chris was really trying to help me OTb as you claim, why didn't he pm me? why put me on blast? mind you I didn't know about zenmack until December, and I had been on SS since October. This whole thing about Chris trying to help is a crock of s**t, if he was trying to help why didn't he never pm me with info about him being a guru? I talked to Johnny S who is a cool dude, hell even Speer answered that question that Dan couldn't and Speer never said "oh go buy my book or some crap like that" granted I knew the answer by now, but I wanted to make sure Speer is legit, and so far he is.

Third; if you watch the videos Rhodey, you would see that Uncle T knows about Barry K, He knows about Supreme, or Zenmack, so you keep asking me questions that I have already answered, and you refuse to watch the videos why? you know why? cause the videos tell the fuccking truth. Like when supreme said that I was buying girls drinks when the video clearly proves that It wasn't me at all but some AFC

http://en.sevenload.com/videos/48mZ96v-AFC-offering-to-buy-chicks-a-drink
^^Truth hurts RHodey and your Guru has been lying on these podcast

Now OTB I got a question you say you post your FR's on zenmack, why not post some here to show cats how you get it in(this would be great promotion for ZM actually)? Warrior has posted some of his, But you and other ZM follower's seem more on the KBJ level to me(besides Dan but last i heard he out the game, I wonder why), and flaming other guys except helping them out, or showing examples of game. It's ironic that I'm getting flamned from ZM guys for posting pics, when your Guru is all about "showing proof" when I was doing that since back then

http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=154722&highlight=destinys
^^Before I ever even knew about Chris or ZM, I think I was doing just fine (and now i'm doing better then ever:crackup: :crackup: :crackup: )

OTB I shut this thread down ROFL, it's to easy, honestly I have no beef with Chris nor you (I find you a funny dude OTB that's why I f*cks with you) as you can see I back my sh*t up, I don't have anything to prove to you nor Chris, but I'm tired of the lies, tired of addressing them, so this will be my last time.

In the end Chris helps (or discourages, or flames as in my case) by his podcast and e-books, I go out on the field with them. I met a cat who had AA on here like you wouldn't belive two weeks ago we went out on the field and he # closed a hottie, I made him go after the chick while I kept the friend occupied.

That's what real "proof" is, when you can show somebody how it works and not just "talk about it" I ran into some cats in the community who talked a good talked and they wasn't doing anything they was saying, and now they paying $$$$ from Guru's. While My game has elevated like a space shuttle!!!

WHo you know on SS or the community who posted over a 100 pictures of hm on the field in a two months span?? (thats proof is it not rhodey?) who you know posts video's or audios in the field? I'm not a Guru nor aspire to be, I'm just a "youngster" who loves this sh*t, I'm passionate about this dawg, that's all I can say

Peace

Solo

p.s. I was never a "Former student" of Chris, nor will I ever will be, good luck with your academy thing OTB, you gonna need it ROFL
 
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I posted there because Barry is anti-community, I was getting fed up, ironically your Guru posted there as well under the pseudo name of "master bator"
You were getting fed up with yourself so you decide to post on a site that posts gay photos and makes nigga jokes?

Now why do you keep saying Supreme is the "masterbator" guy when you KNOW it's not true. Diffrent IP addresses and know that because it came from a moderator on that forum.

Is that your way of diverting the issue? Supreme posted there as himself and he did it to defend himself. So you again need to stop LYING.



You pictures are cool. But they are not proof of game. 80% is you chumming up with other dudes. Why would anyone here want or need to see that? You have another raggedly looking redhead kissing you on the cheek? Then you have a pic of and attractive chick just standing next to you... . There like one girl that you legitimately kiss and even that is awkward looking like when Micheal Jackson kissed Maria Pressley. You are kissong the same chick on the neck and she is laughing at you like you were a joke.

So out of all those pics, I see that you maybe forced a kiss on ONE chick.


So just admit kid, you are still a novice in the game, and stop jocking Zenmack. Stop lurking and then posting lies on other sites so that you wont be contested.

Peace out.
 

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rhodey said:
You were getting fed up with yourself so you decide to post on a site that posts gay photos and makes nigga jokes?
Nope just the whole Chris going at me thing, then I found a post by some dude named Johnny challenging any Pua/Guru to a face off, I thought the thread was funny
Now why do you keep saying Supreme is the "masterbator" guy when you KNOW it's not true. Diffrent IP addresses and know that because it came from a moderator on that forum.
Go read the thread, Chris exposed himself
Is that your way of diverting the issue? Supreme posted there as himself and he did it to defend himself. So you again need to stop LYING.

Did you see the video at the 19th minute of your Guru lying and he got caught on tape?

You pictures are cool..
man ROLFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFf

are you serious? LOL, dude you got to be kidding me, now we gonna aruge about whether my X-girlfirend was kissing me or not? are you serious?

Rhodey you reaching at straws now yo, seriosuly this is pretty pathetic man, you are over-analysising the pictures waaaaaaaaaaaay to hard (lol @ the red head, I know you like dem whiiiteeee gurls OTB!!)

what do you wanna see rhodey? a girl with her lips around my D*ck will that "prove" that I have game? with a girl sucking my c*ck? (dude are you homo?)

lol @ you ignoring my whole post just to comment on the pictures as your Guru would say "smoke n mirrors" I just proved my point, and you wanna "hate" on my pictures (tsk tsk tsk)

@ the end, what are we aruging about? that i have game? is this why Chris has made those 200000018181 gazillion podcast about(me)? if some guy on sosuave has game?


How many girls you got on your teaM?

where is your pic at?

http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=149y4it&s=5
^^dawg the chick look like she is trying to run away (tsk tsk tsk)

Come on Rhodey, where you at? where is your "team" at? show me what real "proof" is rhody!!

:rolleyes:
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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Go read the thread, Chris exposed himself
Saw the thread, page 5 the moderator shows IP's one from vegas, the other from Cali. Also Masterbator TELLS you this REAPEATEDLY and you chose to ignore it. Nowhere does Supreme expose himself as "masterbator". So you have been caught in another lie.

what do you wanna see rhodey?
Really nothing. I never asked you to post pics of dudes cheesing for the camera. Nor did I ask you to post a pic of you and your reluctant looking "ex". But since you CHOSE to post them as proof , I CHOSE to comment.

I really could care less about how many girls are on your team. I don't like the fact that you create lies and then try to pass them off as truth. Regarding me watching your vids, I suffered through the one with Uncle T. Honestly Uncle T seems like a cool dude. It's messed up that you gave him the impression that Supreme started this **** and you CONVENIENTLY left out the fact that you went on another board to flame supreme because you where frustrated that he clowned your wack azz game. Why not be a man and take up your beef with supreme himself? He's been waiting for you to step up, even offered to help you , yet you continue to flame. Grow up man.
 

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rhodey said:
Saw the thread, page 5 the moderator shows IP's one from vegas, the other from Cali. Also Masterbator TELLS you this REAPEATEDLY and you chose to ignore it. Nowhere does Supreme expose himself as "masterbator". So you have been caught in another lie.

Really nothing. I never asked you to post pics of dudes cheesing for the camera. Nor did I ask you to post a pic of you and your reluctant looking "ex". But since you CHOSE to post them as proof , I CHOSE to comment.

I really could care less about how many girls are on your team. I don't like the fact that you create lies and then try to pass them off as truth. Regarding me watching your vids, I suffered through the one with Uncle T. Honestly Uncle T seems like a cool dude. It's messed up that you gave him the impression that Supreme started this **** and you CONVENIENTLY left out the fact that you went on another board to flame supreme because you where frustrated that he clowned your wack azz game. Why not be a man and take up your beef with supreme himself? He's been waiting for you to step up, even offered to help you , yet you continue to flame. Grow up man.
How many girls you got on your team again(since you joined lamemacks?)?
How do you "get it in" the field?(lets see some FRS on SS, I mean if you that good lets see it)
and the biggest question (which you have been dodging like Chris vaugh in "dodgeball")

Did you see the video footage on the 19th minute when Chris got exposed lying?? why haven't you commented on that when the tape clearly vindicates me of not lying, even Uncle T saw that clip, you should watch it!

you never answered those rhodey

:cool:

http://en.sevenload.com/videos/ItIXytxU-Uncle-T-Watching-Strawberry
^^Clip is on the 19th mintue

UNTIL YOU LOOK AT IT RHODEY AND ANSWER I HAVE NOTHING ELSE TO SAY

and lol @ you really thinking some guy from zenmack would post under the name of "master bator" besides Chris (noticed how Bator knew so much about zenmack and carried the Cross for Chris?)

thank you rhody for proving my point, zenmack=flaming Flamingos

http://www.revolution31.com/forum/showthread.php?t=6950
^^Why would somebody post under that pseudo-name to "rep" zenmack like that?

riddle me those questions GHODEY

P.S. lol @ me continuing to flame, when its Chris making podcast about me on the daily, when it's you and guys like Randall and J coming out the woodworks at the Kid daily. You serious? when Chris started making videos (lol @ that 50 year old fool acting like he a gangsta or something, I thought dude was gonna have a heart attack lol @ "I could outgame you, Chris put your money where your mouth is, lets do a field report challenge you agaisnt me, we can go FR for FR, pic for pic, I mean it's all about proof right? Why none of your "souljas" putting those field reports up on sosuave? lol, lets do this for the love of the game my n**a!! show these cats how it's done, Im game holla at me) and still got me on his mind, I gurantee you that he is making a podcast about these post as I type, I could care less to me this is entertainment, to him it's his life!!!

p.s.s. Chris/rhodey/Otb/Jheights, lets do this field report thing, Ill make the thread if u want we can call it "The solomon and Zenmack field reports" nothing phoney, lets do it for the love of the game, I aint got nothing to proof but yall cats sure as hell do from all the flaming I'm getting, I'm going on vacation holla at ya next week


:crackup: :crackup: :crackup:
 

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Wow so you are going to lie on me like you lied on Supreme? I dont know who "OTB" or any of those other people. Unless your boring azz video proves that Supreme is the masterbator I dont want to view it.

You can cap out your text -like a five year old- all you want but I dont want to see your lame pictures. I do not want to read your fantasy rambling field reports. I asked you to stop spreading lies but you refuse. I asked you to step up and squash your issues like a man. But you refuse.

Grow up kiddo.
 

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One PUA rule that I disagree with is Mystery's "Three Second Rule." I do agree that you can't stare at her all night and creep her out or risk another guy stealing her before you. However, to LITERALLY approach within THREE seconds of seeing a woman is ridiculous for the following reasons:

1. You don't have a chance to see if she's with anyone. Be prepared for some confrontations with boyfriends, unless you really enjoy that sort of thing lol.

2. Do you really want to pounce on a chick as soon as she walks into the club? Wouldn't she be more receptive a few minutes later once she's settled and maybe got her drink first?

3. What if you first saw her on the way in or out of the restroom? Do you want to be the creepy guy who approaches her then lol?

Anyway, the idea is good, but some common sense has to be applied. Approach within 5 or 10 minutes max., but definitely do not keep looking at her during that time or you will creep her out. Likewise, if you wait too long, some other guy will move in on her first.

Another PUA principle that I disagree with is, "She's not rejecting you. She's rejecting your approach." If the intent of this is to simply not take rejection personally, that's fine. But I do believe that in most cases, the girl really is rejecting the guy, not his approach. She sizes you up in seconds and you either fit what she's looking for or you don't. Unless you did something really bad like insulting her with your opener, your approach generally doesn't get you rejected. Your looks and body language do.
 

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Mike, i think it's the whole package, looks, body language, approach, vibe etc

I've seen good looking guys approach girls who were giving them expressions of interest but ultimately rejected the guys because their approach and subsequent game sucked. The initial attraction the girl had was wiped out by a bad approach

The idea of the three second rule is sound, but again you don't have to make it literally 3 seconds. Adjust as required.
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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