Which is worse? White knights or feminism?

[El Payaso]

It seems like white knights are what made women the way they are these days in regards to social media, family courts and all. Without the white knights in key positions such as government, would feminism have as much power as it does today?

 

[HowardHughesDicaprio]

and yet another ****ty thread by el payaso

this whole white knights and feminism thing does not affect me one bit even though I live in a very liberal part of the country. The only thing going on here is that you are making up enemies in your head due to the fact you're too weak to actually talk to women and approach them. Feminists are hardly taken as seriously these days as they used to be and most of the ones I know do not affect me one bit. White knights are usually ignored by women or laughed at unless it is a severe case.

Social media and all these politics have nothing to do with you terrible love life, you do. Strong men adapt while weak men complain.

 

[j.619]

Feminism is a fantasy (It's a movement that doesn't truly exist), therefore I treat it as a fantasy.

 

[TheMonkeyKing]

It seems both El Pay and Howard are making fair observations.

Howard, when one understands the recent history of gender dynamics beyond the last few hundred years he starts to appreciate that this conventional feminine imperative was not borne from nothing. It is a result of centuries of patriarchy. That's not to say our forefathers didn't have trouble attracting women; we might assume that they were simply less bound by common sense and civil law.

Difficult to say whether white knighthood or feminism came first. True to say that they not only feed each other, but in small doses, also deserve their place in society; much like game, true masculinity and femininity, no existential phenom can exist as a single entity, without an equal and opposite.

That being said, Strong men adapt while weak men complain is fair retort.

 

[G_Govan]

It seems like white knights are what made women the way they are these days in regards to social media, family courts and all. Without the white knights in key positions such as government, would feminism have as much power as it does today?

This can actually go pretty deep philosophically, but as it stands, men are ultimately responsible.

I think feminism filled a vacuum that was created through leaps in technology and wealth.

 

[TheMonkeyKing]

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[Peaks&Valleys]

Ultimately I feel feminism is worse. It breeds white knights.

Check out this site:

www.annagensler.com

This^ site is featured in numerous online articles from the "bro bible" to "Time" all of which are SUPPORTING her actions.

She goes on Tinder, then when guys send her pick up lines (some are crude, some not), she feels she's being objectified so she draws them naked then puts them on her website. All in the name of helping women out, "women shouldn't be objectified, these men need to be publicly shamed" Even though that's what the whole purpose of Tinder is, virtually no profiles, just pictures. You put yourself on there to be objectified.

Supposedly this is all done to help the advancement of women. No mention of her being a struggling artist, and this being a way to drive traffic to her site, and for her to make money and support herself by shaming men.

 

[Skyline]

Ultimately I feel feminism is worse. It breeds white knights.

Check out this site:

www.annagensler.com

This^ site is featured in numerous online articles from the "bro bible" to "Time" all of which are SUPPORTING her actions.

She goes on Tinder, then when guys send her pick up lines (some are crude, some not), she feels she's being objectified so she draws them naked then puts them on her website. All in the name of helping women out, "women shouldn't be objectified, these men need to be publicly shamed" Even though that's what the whole purpose of Tinder is, virtually no profiles, just pictures. You put yourself on there to be objectified.

Supposedly this is all done to help the advancement of women. No mention of her being a struggling artist, and this being a way to drive traffic to her site, and for her to make money and support herself by shaming men.

Wow what a low life loser... That site just makes both genders look bad. I don't know what's worse, what AFC's do or what women do to exploit them... I wouldn't be surprised if she gets sued by one or some of these men for using their image FOR profit without their consent.

 

[Peaks&Valleys]

Wow what a low life loser... That site just makes both genders look bad. I don't know what's worse, what AFC's do or what women do to exploit them... I wouldn't be surprised if she gets sued by one or some of these men for using their image FOR profit without their consent.

I would not be surprised either, however, the guy would be in a difficult situation because he would be drawing more negative attention to himself. Those guys should be talking to a lawyer though, not sure what they could do.

Some of the lines these guys had:
"you're sexy" (WTF? It's a dating/hook up site, shouldn't a woman want to hear this?)
"you're anna-tomically what I'm looking for." (her name's Anna, this was clever IMO)

There is hope for the future though:
http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2014/07/14/women-against-feminism-tumblr-facebook-_n_5585163.html