Which approach to an old friend.

[Axis]

Heya,

In a few weeks when she comes back from a trip, I was gong to ask out a friend of mine. We are pretty much as close a close as friends can get and she indicated that she wants to come with me on my trip to Vegas in December which made me laugh and started this all.

So I just am not sure whether I should "assume the deal" by making a move on her, or be a little open and truthful with someone i've known for a long time. I love assuming the deal, but it's so much easier with girls I only know from the first date.

I searched a little, but including the word "friend" in my search brings up all the ljbf threads, and those are depressing

 

[Skyline]

We are pretty much as close a close as friends can get and she indicated that she wants to come with me on my trip to Vegas in December which made me laugh and started this all.

The line in red worry's me. We need more insight behind this "friendship," meaning were you acting AFC(needy,insecure,desperate etc.) in this friendship or was it a Don Juan type of friendship?(a bit flirty, touchy, playful etc.)

-If it's the AFC type of friendship, then you're friend zoned and you have zero chance. Your only shot would to assume No contact for a long time, especially since you've known her for a while. Then after the No contact is over, you have to build attraction in subtle ways. It's a slow process. You're basically starting over, and in the long run it's not worth it.

-The DJ type of friendship speaks for itself. You've already setup the attraction for a FB or relationship and all it takes is a push. Almost every new girl I meet, I make sure to aim for this type of friendship. I would say a good 3/4 of the girls i know now have this type of "friendship." If this is the case, then you're pretty much smooth sailing.

 

[VladPatton]

You do realize you are in the deep, thick, savage, untamed jungles of the Friend Zone with this girl, right?

Your chances of getting romantic with this girl are extremely small. You will most likely destroy your relationship with her with your new found ideas of trying to get into her pants after a very long time of clearly not making a move. You'll freak her out and every moment from then on will be awkward.

This is why men and women can't be "friends". One always wants to fück the other.

 

[Axis]

Yea, I know of the friend zone you two. Can't be a forum lurker without having gone throughout the dj bible and all the uplifting material here without knowing about that.

We've been close, hung out a bit and touch and flirt a lot. It's basically me coming down to the point where I close the gap. As much as a don't like it though, I get the feeling that I do have to be a bit more diplomatic than usual and talk instead of act. Wrong move, right? I mean, men do the acting and there's no better place to get a check on that then here.

Haha, I have a lot of female friends in my line of work and this is one of the few that i would bang.