"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Where's the real playas at?

ElStud

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Well, problem with this forum, is a majority of the people on here just talk sh*t and hate on guys who are trying to improve. The question shouldn't be who on here gets laid, but who on here gets laid, consistantly. Because really, the average AFC is gonna get laid EVENTUALLY even if its not till he's like 40.

But yeah, way I see it, the pranksters and KBJ's are praised here, while dudes actually going out are shunned and the bud of jokes.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Darth

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The whole use of the word "virgin" for a man is stupid to begin with.

Everyone started saying it after "40 year old virgin" came out, but really it's a woman's term. Guys shouldn't call themselves "virgins."

And again, my goal is to become a better and more successful person and attract girls, not "become a player" and "get laid consistently." what kind of a pointless life is that??
 

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Oh great, another useless post from skinnyboy-with-long-hair. Seriously mate, why don't you fu.ck off and make another sh.it video full of ugly girls...I'm sure you could rustle up a b.lowjob or two from the gullible idiots who worship you on this site.
 

Warrior74

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Metaphysical said:
How many of you guys are actually getting laid and how many of you are still virgins or haven't had sex in quite a while?

This site is called 'sosuave'. It's supposed to represent the playas out there, not chumps. So if you got plenty of ass in your life, put your hands up, otherwise fess up and let's hear about it. What's stopping ya?
I'm not a player but I get laid on a regular basis. I'm seeing two women right now. I barely have time, between work, my business, my other interest and family obligations. It's hard to squeeze in time with both of them in the same week. Neither one are LTR material so I really don't care what happens with them. My next goal is to drop those two and get two women who I think are LTR material and eventually pick one to be in an LTR with.

Now, tell me about what you have going on. Tell me about your life as a "playa".
 

The Bat

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Metaphysical/dj dan/bonafide/Jesus reminds me of skip 2 my lou A LOT....just a milder, french version of skip though.

They both have good intentions as far as helping other guys getting laid and being successful with women in general. However, they can't stand criticism about their methods/techniques/mindsets in attracting women. The moment somebody calls them "d1ckwad" for having sex with many, many women; they both lose it and go on a generalized insulting spree intended to level the playing field by belittling those who criticized them. They both resort to personal attacks and broad assumptions about their critics and intend to disqualify any remarks made against them. However, they fail to realize that this violent retort does nothing but create more hate/anger/criticism against them and their methods, justified or not.

If only these two guys learn to present their tactics/methods/suggestions/advice in a arguementative, perspective, and logical manner, then they would not suffer so much "hate" from others. And they also need to learn to deal with criticism in an objective way and disregard those that are unwarranted, inconsistent, and personal. Also, they need to know that their method isn't the ONLY one and it will only work for certain demographics.
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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Groovy

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I don't care about getting advice about people who get laid often. One can get laid and his game may be based on a insecure mindset... Meaning that in the heat of the moment he'll crash!! So what good is his advice, just because he got laid? And who is this guy "laying"? I've seen ALL KINDS OF PEOPLE get laid... :down: Bahh.

On the other hand, I could use for sure the advice of someone who is truly and geniuinly social, because that's the men who gets all the real attention and approval at parties, has confidence, and you can learn what matters the most- the key to charisma! How does he do it? I'm talking about naturals, not PUA's. That's the guy who's fun to be around... (badass) :D So that's what we should be aiming at IMO.

I can say that I don't get laid or anything... But I do get out A LOT and experience socializing with a lot of different personalities, would my advice be of more value if I got laid often?! Bah! :D

Real playas are there socializing with a lot of different personalities and learning to have a good confident mindset... So they learn to get along with everyone, including chicks. and also check out my sig! :D :up:
 

Darth

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Groovy said:
I've seen ALL KINDS OF PEOPLE get laid... :down: Bahh.

On the other hand, I could use for sure the advice of someone who is truly and geniuinly social, because that's the men who gets all the real attention and approval at parties, has confidence, and you can learn what matters the most- the key to charisma! How does he do it? I'm talking about naturals, not PUA's. That's the guy who's fun to be around... (badass) :D So that's what we should be aiming at IMO.
Exactly what I was thinking. Charisma is the key to it all. There are some guys you just can't help not liking, and when they like you back you feel "approved" and happy because they are so cool.

That's the kind of guy who's advice I would really love to hear...
 

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Darth said:
The whole use of the word "virgin" for a man is stupid to begin with.

Everyone started saying it after "40 year old virgin" came out, but really it's a woman's term. Guys shouldn't call themselves "virgins."
If you have not inserted your d!ck into a puszy then you are a VIRGIN! What should a guy who has not done that call himself then?
 

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If you have not inserted your d!ck into a puszy then you are a VIRGIN! What should a guy who has not done that call himself then?
"guy"? I agree with Darth. Virginity is a anatomical term. Putting higher meaning into it, be it for men or women, is simply messed up.

Anyway, on the original topic: I don't believe anyone would stay here if they were perfect players and needed no improvement. And while most of the topics make me want to shoot myself after reading the names, I'd rather find a faq to bump than argue about it, it's more productive.
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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