"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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min619

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Hey guys, new to the group. Call me Sal and I live on the West Coast between LA and SD.

I will admit I am a nice guy, and I have terrible, terrible luck with women. Now, before you jump all over me for that one, there are a few things you should know. I look very good on paper, and by that I mean I have my personal affairs in order, so there's no reason whatsoever that I cannot go out there and make a quality connection with some nice girls.

I want to give you a little background on me, so maybe this infomation will help your answers to me and better assist you to formulate a theory as to why I'm so bad with women. I'm 28 years old, and I have an advanced degree, and I own my own consulting business, and I have a very late model German sports car. I have my own place, all the toys/gadgets I want, and I'm very tall 6'4. Bodybuilding is my passion and I workout 5 days a week. When I was in high school I even dabbled in some modeling. Yes, honestly.

Here are some things that I am: Smart, Friendly, Social, Happy, Laid-Back, and extremely intelligent. I'm very kind and I respect everyone. Nobody that has met me would ever say anything malicious about me.

Some things that I am not: I am not a "frat" type of person, nor am I that guy with barbwire arm tattoos. I'm far from a typical meat head/jock type. It's not my goal to go out and "just get laid" at ALL. I am just seeking quality connections and a healthy network of girls I can call and go hangout with (movies, dinners, dancing, happy hours, etc). Hangout with a few till I find the right one type of thing if that makes sense.

When it comes to women, I've got nothing. I am flipping through my phone right now and of the 46 people in there 1 of them being a female, and you guessed it, my mom. I always wondered what those guys were doing to get 2-3-4 phone calls a night from different girls, what were they doing that I wasn't?

I really don't know how my current situation came to be, maybe working too much, or just not caring, but I'm sick of this because I honestly have so much to offer to anyone and if I had to make a phone call to a girl right now to save the world, I couldn't. This is baffling to me, as I'm tall, good looking, educated, traveled, have a good job, and I have lofty career plans for myself.

Anyways, I don't even know where to start with trying to meet women again, because I don't want to be "that guy" in the bar trying to talk to everyone, yet I've never met anyone while grocery shopping, or partying with friends, or even at the beach or at bon fires. Everything in terms of my love life has been a consistent disappointment.

Can you guys help me with a plan or a course of action? I will follow these things and with your help, hopefully get the ball rolling. I'm at ground 0 right now, no connections, no female network, NOTHING.

What's step 1?

Thanks,
Sal
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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NickBe

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Try approaching a woman and saying "hi", it sounds to me like you are the type of guy that loves to talk about himself and his accomplishments. You will want to tone down on that women do not want you tot ell them you are rich they would rather assume it by how you dress and carry yourself. So do not go on about your job, education or money let her do the talking you just listen.

You got money so let me tell you right now the first thing a woman looks at on a guy is shoes and watch. You are going to want some nice expensive cloths (that look good). Women can tell the difference between a $50 shirt and a $500 shirt not matter how many poor people say "it is just the brand name".

I have a $2,000 watch and a lot of expensive shoes and trust me their is a difference when you wear nice cloths. Money is a sign of success, it is a sign that you are driven and more likely than not smart. So you want to display that you make money, most guys will say 'oh he just gets women because he is rich' that is bull****. The fact that you have money just makes women more receptive. So go out find a nice watch spend about $2k, buy some nice shoes you will want to spend $300 or more to get something good and good cloths. That takes care of fashion, when a women sees a fashionable guy in nice cloths she is immediately interested.

As for approaching just say 'Hi' and start a conversation it isn't that hard and remember do not talk about yourself too much. Women like mystery she wants to assume thing about you not know them.
 

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Not really, I'm not one to brag, but I was just trying to establish credibility and let you all know that there's no reason why I shouldn't be out there getting numbers and making connections.

There seems to be a common consensus that you need a few things in place before you can take things to the next step (job, car, appearance, etc) and my point being I have the groundwork in place there.

So any further advice rather then just going up to girls and say "hi?"

thanks
 
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