"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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Where to go when we don't have our own homes

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Hi there.

I have a date with a girl this saturday. I think I have her under control, and the date can end up very well, in my opinion. And I mean, really well.

The problem is that we both live with our parents. That means that we don't have any place to go if the thing goes well. Until now, I have never had this kind of problems, because I usually target foreing girls, so they have their own place, usually a shared flat which is enough. But now, I'm clueless.

It would be a real shame to not be able to do anything even if I have the opportunity, just because of lack of place.

First thing I thought was to get to a hotel, but I think that that kind of proposition can increase her ***** factor to infinite in a fraction of second, and ruin everything. Second thought was the car, but I don't really like it, I think it's kind of low level and not really comfortable. And it can affect her ***** factor too. So I don't know where else to go.

I'm spanish, 20 years old. She's 17. We are in Madrid.

Any advice on where to go? I'm clueless. Thanks!
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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You're 20 and you can't bring a girl back to your house?

Get a Hotel?
Hotels are for couples and hookers.

Relax. It's not like she isn't in the same situation.

Have a talk with your parents, tell them that you're surely old enough to have a girl over. Tell them you're responsible enough not to screw things up. If they don't give you a chance, then I imagine it's time to move out.
 

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I actually would've said a car, it IS romantic (for her) if you parked it on top of a hill where you could get some great scenery.

But if you must, the only other viable option would be in a dirty alley way where city rats dwell and the smell of fresh urine might be intoxicating enough to make your girl choke on her own vomit.

You should probably try your room.

Or, if you're both up to it... some public places which are usually hidden make for some amazing sex. Like an empty car space in an apartment facility, or an elevator, a staircase, even on a roof. Good luck.
 

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Elevator in an office building, at 6:30am. The building is just open, but you don't get many employees coming in.
 

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be confident

well i will say take her to the hotel for the weekend cause i think she will like it and don't be shy,feel free to say and do what ever u want but don't f**k up and be in control.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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WC2 said:
You're 20 and you can't bring a girl back to your house?

Get a Hotel?
Hotels are for couples and hookers.

Relax. It's not like she isn't in the same situation.

Have a talk with your parents, tell them that you're surely old enough to have a girl over. Tell them you're responsible enough not to screw things up. If they don't give you a chance, then I imagine it's time to move out.
The reason to take her home with my parents here... no thanks. It's not that my parents won't allow me (my mother would be a bit concerned but my father would tell me "go for it man"), it's just that taking the girl to my room and thinking that my parents are in the next room, less than 5m away... it completely turns me off. Moreover, the girl would have to be very quiet... which is something difficult if the situation gets as I like it. And my bed has a horrible cracking noise when you move. No way.

About moving out... it is almost impossible in Spain. The average age of emancipation in Spain is around 32 years old. No kidding. It's not until that age when you can think about getting yourself mortgaged for 40 years to get a house because you at last have a decent job. The price of real state in Madrid is crazy. It's impossible for a 20 years old university student to think about living on his own. But let's not get out of topic.


Cruise said:
I actually would've said a car, it IS romantic (for her) if you parked it on top of a hill where you could get some great scenery.
That could be an option, but I think that comes from American Graffitty-like movies with their Cadillacs :D In any case, I would have to find that kind of place in advance as I don't know where it could be. Although I was looking for a long and comfortable night, not for a quick banging...

diplomatic_lies said:
Elevator in an office building, at 6:30am. The building is just open, but you don't get many employees coming in.
Man I'm not so quick to finish as to be able to do it in an elevator :D And I think she would be completely scared away, and/or very nervous as to really do or enjoy anything. Maybe more mature women would be excited by that, but she's 17 and she didn't look nor act as a *****, I think she's quite unexperienced still.

jimmyjack said:
well i will say take her to the hotel for the weekend cause i think she will like it and don't be shy,feel free to say and do what ever u want but don't f**k up and be in control.
I think that "Let's stay the weekend at this hotel" is too much to ask at this stage. She doesn't even know my name! I met her last weekend, and she told me her name (along with a lot of other things) but, on my part, instead of telling her my name I told her that she'll earn that knowledge next time we meet. I have her completely under control, I'm fairly sure of that, but making such a proposition now would be suicidal in my opinion.



Thank you all for your suggestions. I think I'll try to make her come to a hotel with me if things goes well, there are quite very good hotels very close to the place in which we are going to meet and expend the evening. I'll just try to turn her on as much as I can, up to a point in which if I suggest the hotel it would sound like something that just came up to my mind because we both got so horny we really can'ts stand it any more. Let's hope it gets as good as that.
 

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Ray said:
It's not that my parents won't allow me (my mother would be a bit concerned but my father would tell me "go for it man"), it's just that taking the girl to my room and thinking that my parents are in the next room, less than 5m away... it completely turns me off.
It sounds like your Dad is pretty cool about it. Tell him that you are bringing a girl home and that he should take your mom out to the movies for a few hours and hand him 20 bucks. He will understand.
 

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DJDamage said:
It sounds like your Dad is pretty cool about it. Tell him that you are bringing a girl home and that he should take your mom out to the movies for a few hours and hand him 20 bucks. He will understand.
LOL isn't it usually the other way around?
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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