Where to find this type of woman?

[rhcp83]

I hear guys complaining about going on a first date, doing nothing wrong/not being AFC and never hearing from the girl again.

I've had the same experiences, and it seems the two women who didn't fit that bill, there was already a lot of rapport established before the first date and that these women were more mature than most.

One girl was on facebook, we had a great convo, then immediately got her number and went from there and talked for a couple weeks before meeting then dated.

The other was an okcupid...I noticed her profile was different than the usual "I like to go out and party, but also love to wear jogging pants and sit in and watch a movie. I love to laugh" bs. She sounded sincere, made a comment about how she doesn't go to bars on weekends to avoid the "let's drunk bud light and make idiots out of ourselves" crowd and instead gets together with friends during the week. We had a conversation, had a very similar sense of humor, then during the date, clicked even more.

My point being, it seems the girls guys meet via cold approaching (I have friends in the field too that pull numbers/get first dates that go nowhere) are more of the typical/party/"I'm too busy for anyone but my bffs" types. Sure, the guy is good looking enough/had enough game and charm to get her number and land a date...but he was just one of many men in her life and not a number one.

So anyway, getting back to my original point...both of these women I dated were different, but were the same in that they were extremely mature for their age. One of them took care of her disabled mother, didn't party/go to clubs/bar hop...went out with her close girl friends a couple times a month in town, but aside from that spent her time working and helping out her mother. She would also easily rate an 8 on anyone's scale lookswise and didn't act it...just had a "one of the guys" personality. (She wasn't perfect, not saying that, of course she had her faults...loved to argue over nothing etc.) but my point is that she was more quality than most.

The other, it's like our personalities were in sync. We "got" each other and had similar sense's of humor...she was more of a 6ish, but we had common interests, liked similar tv shows, both liked dining out but neither of us were fatties or overeaters, etc.

So these quality, cute women, can you find these via cold approaches or are there places I should be looking for them?

I figure, I met both of these within a year and a half of each other, just by doing the online thing...and both lived in the same city...which means there are much more of them out there, I'm just not meeting them.

Basically, I'm looking for a mature woman if I'm to enter any type of dating relationship, even "seeing someone." One that doesn't play games right from the get go (I know most/all women eventually play games, but I'm talking right from the get go), isn't a party/has a lot of male friends type, isn't "too busy" for me and is basically just saner than most, not a shy introvert but not some party animal either, and a 7 plus in looks.

Knowing that I met two of these types within 18 months without even trying that hard, in an area not conducive for HBs and known for its fatties, I can't help but think there are more out there, that would be compatible with me, but I'm just not meeting them.

 

[Colossus]

I think what you are getting at is you want to find a way to zero-in on this 'market share' of women. This "type" that you are perceiving is your cup of tea.

Well the answer is, there isnt some treasure trove of HB 7+s who are mature, not skanky, into this, not into that, etc. That's kind of like trying to isolate brown striped cats. They are wherever you find them.

You just have to stay in the saddle and keep sorting through the numbers. There is no shortcut my friend. You can do some things to increase the likelihood you'll meet someone like that; such as not going to clubs and maybe hitting more "non-traditional" venues; BUT---you may find through your experiences that what you think you want isnt what you truly want. That's the value of playing the game.

 

[floydb25]

The best way to find this kind of person is to focus on their personality. You can usually get a good feel for them just by talking. It wouldn't hurt to make a short list of the qualities you do / don't want as a reminder. If she seems shallow, ditsy, ****y, rude, etc - she's no good. You can also get an idea by how they look, what they do, who they associate with, how they act, and what they're looking for. All of this can be found out very quickly. Their lifestyles are a big part of who they are.

Don't be fooled by first impressions. People aren't THAT good at pretending to be something they're not. A lot of people know deep-down that these girls are bad news, but choose to pursue them anyway. Like you really can't tell when someone is a skank... If she seems genuinely nice, down-to-earth, and so forth - she probably is these things. Someone who's putting on a front will still reveal bits of their true selves - they just won't be mean to YOU right away. They'll still use vulgar language, speak in a ****-like tone, act *****y, prissy, stuck up, closed off, etc, and reveal huge hints of their true nature in their comments. They can't fake everything. Most people just choose to avoid paying attention, or shrug it off because she's hot.

As for locations... You can find them most anywhere. It's not really the location - its the person. You'll find good and bad people everywhere. There are obvious places to avoid, such as bars. You just gotta talk to them, get a feel for what they're like, know what you want, trust your gut, and go from there.