"The Kiss of Death Mistake"

You replay the conversation at 2 a.m. She texted back fast yesterday. Today, nothing. Was that smile friendly or flirty? What did the shoulder touch mean?

Every hour you spend decoding her signals drains your confidence and hands her the controls. Women can sense that insecurity from across the room — and it repels them.

One of the "22 Rules" kills the obsession on the spot: assume she likes you, and act accordingly. Sounds too simple. Works anyway.

Her interest tends to rise to meet your expectations. Psychologists call it a self-fulfilling prophecy.

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where to find the good girls (its prob not in the club)

StrivetoThrive

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I wanted to add a tip, and to some it may be repetitive or even obvious. But to me, its something that makes a lot of sense and in my opinion its true. So, here it goes.


Basically, I see a lot of discussion on here about clubs, clubbing, and going to bars, which is something I happen to do on a decent basis. If you are going to these places to find girls (which any red blooded male on this fourm, including myself probably is), Ive got some news for you. THE GOOD GIRLS ARE NOT LIKELY TO BE THERE! I repeat, the chicks that are the good ones, the ones that we see and think, thats someone I want to spend time with, they are probably not going to be at clubs and bars and the like.

Now what is likely to be at these establishments, some might ask? Yeah theres prob going to be some good looking, interesting ladies, there always are at least a couple. But more often than not, you are gonna find the girls that are lushes, skanks, or think that they are god's gift to this green earth and wont give you the time of day.


So what does that mean for the aspiring or already there DJ? It means that if you are just trying to get a number and a date, or something to poke on for a night or two (which isnt a bad thing), thats what you are likely going to get from these places. Sure you might not find Mrs. Right, but you definately can find Mrs. Right Now. This is not meant to be a criticism of nightlife for the college, or just out of school scene, it is just what I believe is true.

There have been many times when I have been in these places, and had a great time, banged a chick, got numbers, whatever. That is fun sometimes. But other times I have been in a club kinda not in the mood to hit on these girls which I consider to be nothing more than a meaningless tryst. And it got me to thinking where are these other girls, the ones with intellect, careers, beauty, and substance? Well, thats when it hit me, they are in bed, resting up to go to work the next day, to further improve their lives. You find them in the business world, the library, the bookstore, the gym, their classes. In my experience in college, the chicks I found to be the coolest, the most stimulating, and the best to be around were the ones sitting in my classes, so that is where a lot of my theory here is derived from. Sure you have to seperate the wheat from the proverbial chaff in the "real" world so to speak, but you can find the quality out there more often than in the clubs you may often frequent.

I used to think that banging chicks was cool and fufilling, but I am starting to break myself out of that mold and seeking quality over quantity. Self improvement is the best way to obtaining quality women. In the bible it says something to the effect that you have to build up your castle or fortress before you allow anybody to join you in it (paraphrased loosely). So now Im just gonna build the freakin Palace of Versailles and the babe who wants to join me in it for a while can. So there is my tip, read it and go forth.
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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well, i kinda disagree.
This maybe because i absolutly LOVE clubbing with a passion. Where else can you truely let go & lose yourself in the music. Let the rythem take over & allow your body to move with the sound.

Also, the atmospere. It's a great place for you & friends to just have a few drinks & have some fun. The Club is just the best place to have some fun, & to be truely free.

er... yeah... anyway. The thing is, i LIKE girls that know how to have a good time. I personally could NOT go out with someone who didn't like clubbing. & i certainly would never go for some uptight over-achiever who spends all their time studying & reading, thinking she's better than everyone else because they're out having fun & she's 'furthering her career'.

No, this perfect girl you describe sounds like a wet blanket, & no fun at all. I like someone with some life in them. someone knows how to have fun. someone who realises that work & money are NOT the most important things in life.

But, each to their own, you know.
 

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im kinda with both of you on this...

There are alot of people who go clubbing to spangled and are generally pretty messed up people that you wouldnt want to marry.

But there are also a great deal of people who go out clubbing make you have an amazing fun time, and also are great people when theyre not wasted, including personalities and careers..

At the end of the day, its just another place to meet someone, talking to a hot girl on the street could be more dangerous than talking to a girl in a club or you might meet a complete psycho in church.
 

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Hate to burst your bubble but even the "nice girls" go to clubs, not that I hold much weight in the whole nice/bad girl rubbish.

Now supposing just supposing there is some girl somewhere who for whatever reason doesnt have a social circle and refuses to go out every once in a while with girlfiends to let her hair down and bask in the glory that is male attention then they are what as known as homebody weirdos OR religous chicks.

In either case definately someone I would prefer to stay away from.

No offense but I dont rate this tip at all, I find it highly inacurate and extremely misleading.
 

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Originally posted by ( . )( . )
Hate to burst your bubble but even the "nice girls" go to clubs, not that I hold much weight in the whole nice/bad girl rubbish.

Now supposing just supposing there is some girl somewhere who for whatever reason doesnt have a social circle and refuses to go out every once in a while with girlfiends to let her hair down and bask in the glory that is male attention then they are what as known as homebody weirdos OR religous chicks.

In either case definately someone I would prefer to stay away from.

No offense but I dont rate this tip at all, I find it highly inacurate and extremely misleading.
Almost ALL women go to "da cluuuub" at some time or other. Drinking and socializing is part of what they do. But in any popular establishment, they often are tucked behind rows and rows of club-hoochies.

You have to learn to pick them out:

-If you've been to this club a couple times and she seems to be there EVERY NIGHT you go

-If she's all sunshiney when you approach her, but she doesn't seem to be listening to a thing you say...decent girls will excuse themselves and back out if you screw up conversationally...club-rats will just give you that in-one-ear, out-the-other smile and just zone out, no matter WHAT you say

-If she knows all the bouncers/bartenders/etc

-If she does things just for attention...for example dancing on the bar

-If she gets P!SS-DRUNK...all women drink, but I'm talking absoultely wasted

-If she's rocking the typical club-girl glitter-look...if you've ever been to a club, you know the look I mean

-If she seems to have a TOLERANCE to the environment...she may be having fun, but she gives the impression that she's done this a hundred times before and clubbing is just kind of "what she's about"


Normally you can tell the difference within the first 5 minutes of conversation. If you're LOOKING for a long-term mate, it's probably NOT the best place to look. But that doesn't mean they're NOT there at ALL.
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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The problem might be that you are trying to kick all this serious sh1t at the club...In a club/bar, its all visual, so its all about who is having fun, etc...where they want to be talked to like that, they want to have fun and if you show them you are having fun then they will go...Like other people said, there are good girls in these areas, but they dont want to hear all this DJ stuff at the moment...
 

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As a former bouncer, I have certain expertise on the subject.

Squirrel's is right on how to spot the so called club rats or women who seem to spend their every waking hour at night clubs/bars. They are pretty easy to spot. Typically, they know the staff on a first named basis, including the bartenders, bouncers, DJ's, etc. They usually are the consumate AW's, the ones you see scanitly dressed, dancing on top of speakers, talking to the DJ, bouncing from one guy to another, etc.

The nice girls are usually in the background almost unoticed and accompanied by a friend or two or are with their boyfriend/husband.

So, the notion that nice girls do not go to clubs is not totally accurate. Nice girls do go to clubs. You just don't see them their on a constant basis or if they do go there regularly they are inconspicuous and with friends or a BF/Husband.
 

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Usually the "good" ones are the girls you notice and think to yourself, "Hey, she's cute, I wonder what's up with her?" just before you get distracted by a hoochie in hot-pants. ;)
 

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This is all great; however, I can tell you where NOT to find a "good girl" -- Wal-Mart.

Never date a girl that works at Wal-Mart. Trust me on that one!
 

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Originally posted by sux2bu
This is all great; however, I can tell you where NOT to find a "good girl" -- Wal-Mart.

Never date a girl that works at Wal-Mart. Trust me on that one!
Never GO to Wal-Mart...and you won't have that problem. :D
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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There's got to be some decent Wally world chics out there?

Don't go to Chinamart, because doing so is funding the mainland Chinese military (30% of earnings marked up over sweat-shop labor) .. had to throw that in there, but it's true .. and a whole other thing of course.
 
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